SC Soccer
Posted By: ihs12 #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 01:08 AM
BRING IT ON!!!

see yall saturday.

what an amazing comeback for the irmo squad. Down 2-1 in OT and puts two goals in the second OT.

GO IRMO
Posted By: The Real Henry Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 01:11 AM
Northwestern wins 3-1. YAYAYA
Posted By: The Real Henry Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 01:11 AM
Gonna be a good game. Good luck to Irmo. Great squad.
Posted By: Jackson, Samuel L. Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 01:14 AM
I think it comes down to keeper play...Not sure who has the better
Posted By: chikfila Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 01:30 AM
This will be a great game, im thinkin 39-40 irmo in pk's. Mikey Day with the win
Posted By: tubescooter Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 01:38 AM
if it comes down to keeper play...which it may...irmo has the advantage with either sullivan or arneson. both are first class players. by the way, which one started against wando?

for irmo, it will come down to midfield. for NW, its gonna come down to finishing
Posted By: HeTakesPictures Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 01:42 AM
This should be great!
How can I get on the sidelines for this one!!!!
Posted By: Tommy234 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 01:42 AM
Irmo has a strong attack that i think is uncontrollable. Their midfield dominates like no other.
NW has very strong forwards who could challenge some of the Irmo backs.

Irmo puts 2 away early, which ends up to be too much for NW

Irmo-3
NW-2
Posted By: High Flyer Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 01:49 AM
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This should be great! How can I get on the sidelines for this one!!!!



hetakespictures... you'll have to show up friday night and wait all day saturday for good seats at this one
Posted By: Cesc_Fabregas Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 01:50 AM
NW - 3
Irmo - 1

Very excited to see these two teams play. The manner in which both Irmo and Northwestern won (no matter how different these games were) both show that these teams deserve to be there. Good luck to all!
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Posted By: Belligerent Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 02:25 AM
props to the ref for doing a pretty good job of keeping things from getting out of hand. was a fairly physical match, but it could have been much worse.
Posted By: tubescooter Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 02:26 AM
i was told that if i wanted to go to the 3A game and then stay for the 4A game, i would have to pay two entrance fees. any truth to this? i highly doubt it...
Posted By: wunderkid #10 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 02:32 AM
Can't be true.

how would they know if showed up for the 3A game and stayed for the 4A game.

Don't think they are going to walk around after the earlier games and tell people they have to leave because they only paid for one game.
Posted By: Cant Coach That Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 02:39 AM
Rumor has it ESPN is coming and it will be shown on ESPN U as a tape delay. Any truth to this?
Posted By: Cesc_Fabregas Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 02:45 AM
If it is, that could do wonders for South Carolina soccer in general.
Posted By: mediocrates Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 02:59 AM
This could be epic!
Posted By: RVPersie Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 03:06 AM
Im going with 4-2 NW.

I think NW will net 2 quickly....Irmo will tie it up.
Then I think NW puts it away with 2 goals late.

Watch out for Dennis Moore.....could be a real difference maker in this year's matchup(didnt play in last years game).

Should be a hell of a game.
Posted By: sG Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 03:07 AM
Lets Compare the two.

Keepers: NW's starter is the same from last year that won state. He has only allowed 5 goals this season. Irmo's keepers have allowed 11 goals. I do not think this game will come down to goalkeeping, though I do think NW might have the advantage because of experience.

Defense:
NW's centerback Robbie Benson, an All-State selection, is one of, if not the best centerback in the state. The other centerback is young but very good. NW's outside backs are both very talented as well. Irmo landed two of their defenders on the All-Region squad, but none on all state. They are a very talented unit, but not quite as good as NW.

Midfield:
NW's Alex Martinez is the best midfielder in the state, bar-none. The way he controls the game reflects his All-State selection. Shawn Ferguson, another All-State selection, dominates the physical aspect of the game with his 6'5" frame. Irmo's midfield is very talented as well. Mukofsky and Acree, both All-State selections, are a force. Both quick and very smart. At the end of the day though, I just don't think they can handle Alex.

Forwards:
NW has Enzo. Need I say more? Oh yeah I should also mention the most talented sophomore in the State Ricardo Garbanzo and junior ODP Region Team standout Dennis Moore. These guys are ridiculously good. Irmo will have lots of trouble containing Enzo, and if they do they still have two other studs to worry about. Irmo also has great talent up top. With senior All-State selections in Varney and McEwan, the Trojan Defense will have to play a very good game to contain them.

There is so much talent on both teams. From my observations, I think NW is the better all around team. This does not mean that NW will win though. These are two of the best teams to ever come out of SC and it should be a match a lifetime. Looking forward to it. I understand I am a little bit biased. Don't bash me for my opinion, I think both teams are good. I just bleed purple!

Prediction:
NW 4
Irmo 2
Posted By: RVPersie Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 03:21 AM
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I just bleed purple!




I second that!
Posted By: kj33665 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 03:24 AM
I don't even want to make any predictions... I just want to show up and watch at 7 on Saturday! Should be 8 dollars WELL spent.
Posted By: hollywood Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 03:15 PM
Not gonna make a prediction either but definitely believe Irmo will have to play better than they did against Wando if they're gonna be successful against Northwestern. Really looking forward to the individual battle between Enzo and Hubbard.
Posted By: RobertT420 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 03:20 PM
Irmo is the best team in the land bar none. The determination of the squad in the win they had last night over a strong wando squad shows they can get it done when it needs to get done. It should be a great game and will should be close down to the end but Irmo has Jah's blessing and we will come out on top.
Posted By: soccer2103 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 03:26 PM
I think this match comes down to executing set plays. I like Irmo in this area. I think they are due and are playing for more than NHS is. Irmo 3-2 in OT
Posted By: sG Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 03:27 PM
Slow down there Robert. How can you say Irmo is the best "bar none"? I mean do you honestly think they are that much better than NW? And unless your some sort of prophet, your comment about Jah, as you call him, just takes all credibility away from you. Get real my friend. Northwestern shall reign!
Posted By: Always Right Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 03:28 PM
Northwestern 4-1 Irmo. Poor goalkeeping by both teams despite their ridculous stats. Enzo is on a different level altogether. Should be a great game but there is good, great and exceptional and Irmo falls in the great category and NHS in the exceptional ledger.
Posted By: soccer2103 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 03:32 PM
Also Irmo dominated run of play in last years semis but fell short. This is pretty much the same NHS team as last year but I wouldn't say the same for Irmo. Irmo knows exactly what to expect and their coaches are very aware of what needs to be done to win this match. Hard for me since I am an NHS alum, but I just think Savitz and company will pull it out.

Good luck to both teams though, this should shape up to be what we have all wanted since this started being talked about last May/June.
Posted By: wolfgang Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 07:31 PM
finally, the talk will stop saturday night. the bashing will be over and the truth will come out. trojans just have too much firepower and are too tough defensively. ft mill go one shot on frame and irmo will do better, but the outcome will be the same. i believe that the trojans will prevail 3-1 and will dominate play.
Posted By: Brock Scott Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 07:40 PM
I think a lot of people are staying around to watch this game. Should be a classic. Certainly a lot of friction on this board. Hope you aren't players.
Posted By: Shrink Rapp Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 08:57 PM
Has anyone heard if the ESPN rumor is true? Are they going to be there?
Posted By: pnedvedpcrouch2391 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 09:07 PM
my expierence with Northwestern they were weak in the back and the goalkeeper position....I pick Irmo by 1
Posted By: The Chief Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 09:17 PM
13 of the 25 goals FMHS gave up this year were to NWHS (4 more came against another team in one game were they played a man down for about 78 min due to a bad red card call). That means they only gave up 8 goals to everyone else including the two playoff teams they played.

They had a fairly solid defense but NWHS brings so much firepower that FMHS could not slow them down. Perhaps the power of Irmo's offense will keep the ball away from Enzo and CO. I for one am a beliver that NWHS's power and depth will be hard to overcome.
Posted By: The Chief Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 09:37 PM
After further review, Wando was not the better team when they met FMHS this year. Wando lost 2-1, close to what Irmo did to them but FMHS did not need overtime.
IRMO struggled to beat Wando! Wando's attack seems to be the highest powered side Irmo faced this year, and they did not shut them down. NWHS will bring that and much more. Irmo will not be able to keep NWHS on thier heels in a defensive posture like they apparently did to Wando once they settled down.
Posted By: Cant Coach That Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 09:40 PM
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my expierence with Northwestern they were weak in the back and the goalkeeper position....I pick Irmo by 1




I would call two all state backs weak as well... sarcasm and NW's keepers are underrated.
Posted By: Mad River Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 09:44 PM
Who can really know anything about either Irmo's or NW's keepers? None of them have been tested this year. I'm looking forward to a great game. I agree Irmo outplayed NW last year everywhere but on the scoreboard. Irmo is much stronger this year.
Posted By: The Chief Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 09:47 PM
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my expierence with Northwestern they were weak in the back and the goalkeeper position....I pick Irmo by 1




I would call two all state backs weak as well... sarcasm and NW's keepers are underrated.




I would agree Foster is very good but does not get much chance to show it, what do you expcet he could be the best keeper in the state but with only (on a bad day) 4-5 shot on frame how much does he get to show???? In fact most games it is 1 shot (or even 0).
Posted By: pinger90 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 09:52 PM
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After further review, Wando was not the better team when they met FMHS this year. Wando lost 2-1, close to what Irmo did to them but FMHS did not need overtime.
IRMO struggled to beat Wando! Wando's attack seems to be the highest powered side Irmo faced this year, and they did not shut them down. NWHS will bring that and much more. Irmo will not be able to keep NWHS on thier heels in a defensive posture like they apparently did to Wando once they settled down.




that game was in the 3rd or so game into the season, all teams mesh and improve as the season goes on. I'm sure the result would be different if they played now.
Posted By: pinger90 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 09:53 PM
but i'm not saying they are awesome team either IRMO was not playing up to their potential last night at all. That team is capable of so much more and many people have witnessed it and know that. And it didn't help that they were basically playing on a beach
Posted By: The Real Henry Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 10:19 PM
Foster is a very athletic goalkeeper but hasn't had many opportunities to show it, due to Northwestern being Northwestern. I think Saturday is his chance to shine and really establish himself for the 2010 season.

Don't know anything about Irmo's goalkeeper but I have heard he is a good one.

I just hope the game isn't determined by poor goalkeeper play from either side but I do not think it will be.
Posted By: MUnited Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 10:25 PM
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Also Irmo dominated run of play in last years semis but fell short. This is pretty much the same NHS team as last year but I wouldn't say the same for Irmo. Irmo knows exactly what to expect and their coaches are very aware of what needs to be done to win this match. Hard for me since I am an NHS alum, but I just think Savitz and company will pull it out.

Good luck to both teams though, this should shape up to be what we have all wanted since this started being talked about last May/June.




Its the same NW team as last year but they have stepped up their play to another level this year. Benson was an absolute brick wall last night and did not give the FM forward a sniff. They have to cut out some of the sloppy play that they had for patches last night, but if they can do that they win. Even when they were 3-0 up last night, they still had FM sitting in and playing desperation long balls out of the back. There were periods that FM did not touch the ball for multiple minutes at a time. When NW is on their game, it is some of the highest quality high school football that I have ever seen.


Northwestern - 3
irmo - 1
Posted By: Damaris Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 10:33 PM
I haven't been able to go to many Irmo games this season, so which of Irmo's keepers gets more time, Sullivan or Arneson? Or do they get equal time.
Posted By: benfoster03 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 10:58 PM
Sullivan gets more time than Arneson. I'm going with a 2-1 Irmo victory, Seiverding and Acree for Irmo and Enzo for Northwestern. Should be a great game!
Posted By: The Chief Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 11:15 PM
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After further review, Wando was not the better team when they met FMHS this year. Wando lost 2-1, close to what Irmo did to them but FMHS did not need overtime.
IRMO struggled to beat Wando! Wando's attack seems to be the highest powered side Irmo faced this year, and they did not shut them down. NWHS will bring that and much more. Irmo will not be able to keep NWHS on thier heels in a defensive posture like they apparently did to Wando once they settled down.




that game was in the 3rd or so game into the season, all teams mesh and improve as the season goes on. I'm sure the result would be different if they played now.




Yes Fort Mill has become a closer team over the year

Good point thought.
Posted By: Damaris Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 11:22 PM
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Sullivan gets more time than Arneson. I'm going with a 2-1 Irmo victory, Seiverding and Acree for Irmo and Enzo for Northwestern. Should be a great game!




Really? Now that's interesting, because last year it appeared that Arneson got more time.

I predict an Irmo victory as well, but it really is up in the air.
Posted By: maCgln Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 11:28 PM
irmo could barely get past wando...they are going to get run by Northwestern in the finals
Posted By: pnedvedpcrouch2391 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 11:29 PM
cmon, all state means nothing...especially when your on a undefeated team. Im not saying Northwestern defense is bad im just pointing out weak spots on their team in comparison to the rest of the squad.
Posted By: MUnited Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/20/09 11:34 PM
well thats not saying very much at all
Posted By: chelsea69 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 12:11 AM
I wouldn't even say they are weak..they're one of the strongest places on the field other than enzo, when you dont give up a goal in playoffs or the last 7 or 8 games theyve played, i dont call that very weak
Posted By: Mad River Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 02:34 AM
Arneson got more time earlier in the year but seemed to lose confidence as the year wore on with some shaky play. Gave up one horrific goal in the White Knoll 9-4 victory (misplayed a ball passed back with it going either under or around his foot as it trickled over the goal line. Sullivan has seen the earlier action since then although both have played all the games up to the Wando game...not sure who played that one.
Posted By: hollywood Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 02:38 AM
I would say Irmo's two keepers both play well in doses but i don't feel either one is consistent enough to be considered a strength. Also Irmo's backline is gonna have to play better than what they have recently to neutralize Northwestern's attack. Seems when Irmo pushes numbers forward they are very open to the counter attack.
Posted By: Big Left Hook Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 04:27 AM
NW - 5
Irmo - 2
Posted By: Shrink Rapp Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 11:33 AM
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Arneson got more time earlier in the year but seemed to lose confidence



Arneson and Sullivan have actually spilt time all year. It would have been a horrific goal in the White Knoll game if it ended there, however since then Arneson has worked specifically on footwork and balls dropped back and has actually gained significant confidence due to that event. His shakey play, as you stated GSdad, has resulted in a total of 3 goals against him all season.
Arneson, Sullivan, and Prim have complimented and pushed each other throughout the season resulting in better skills by all three keepers.
Posted By: wino Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 11:38 AM
NW 4 IRMO 3 glad to see the two best teams in the final, Enzo's senior year, no let down, good luck
Posted By: wolfgang Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 01:20 PM
2391,how can u say nhs has a weak defense? 9 goals and only 5 against the first defense? two allstate defenders? three of their defenders signing college scholarships and they are weak? if u look at their game by game stats, very few teams even got off shots on goal. weak defense? get real, their defense was good enough for the last three years to produce three state finals. this defense is the same one that limited mighty irmo to one goal and defending state champion and number one ranked spring valley to no goals and no shots on frame. weak defense my #@&%$.... trojans 3-1.
Posted By: YellowJacket44 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 02:14 PM
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but i'm not saying they are awesome team either IRMO was not playing up to their potential last night at all. That team is capable of so much more and many people have witnessed it and know that. And it didn't help that they were basically playing on a beach




Yea agreed, Irmo was playing on a beach while wando played on the field with the perfect grass. This explains why irmo didnt dominate. Mike day you are so smart
Posted By: YellowJacket44 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 02:23 PM
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Irmo is the best team in the land bar none. The determination of the squad in the win they had last night over a strong wando squad shows they can get it done when it needs to get done. It should be a great game and will should be close down to the end but Irmo has Jah's blessing and we will come out on top.




Your pothead remarks are worthless, Irmo is going to need help from more then your Jah to beat NW.
Posted By: Spartan Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 02:37 PM
YellowJacket, it's time for you to look forward to next year. I understand it was an "off year" for your school, but it's time to play club and get ready for a good year in 2010.

Let's show some sportsmanship and stop the personal attacks on the players
Posted By: YellowJacket44 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 02:57 PM
actually we went 6-2 this year in our conference and I wont be playing club, I will just be training with the team in the offseason. So you can stop making your assumptions about which school I attend since you obviously have no idea
Posted By: Spartan Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 03:05 PM
Y'Jacket, Don't let jealousy get the best of you, it's not healthy.

Just be proud of your school and don't let Irmo's success eat at you
Posted By: pinger90 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 03:08 PM
yes yellow jacket you are always right
Posted By: YellowJacket44 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 03:15 PM
What does me being proud of my school having anything to do with NW beating Irmo? and i dont think i am jealous of a high school soccer team. And since you edited your post. we did not have an off-year this year, we actually had a very good team
Posted By: YellowJacket44 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 03:18 PM
me having team pride has nothing to do with the fact that NW will bear spirmo. My team actually did not have an off year we had a very good team. Its too bad the NCAA doesnt play high school teams.
Posted By: pinger90 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 03:28 PM
your an idiot yellow jacket
Posted By: pinger90 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 03:57 PM
but back on topic IRMO will win 3-1 in regulation time.. in the high light of the the goals from the news it looked like fm wasn't playing aggressive enough defensivly against a quality team like nw, not going in for balls that could have been won (but that was just from that little clip). IRMO will bring the intensity, take everything and leave nothing. Its going to be a very intense match. Finish it up boyz its the game ya'll have been preparing and waiting for... to show who is really #1 in SC. IRMO! real
Posted By: pnedvedpcrouch2391 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 04:09 PM
was Northwesterns sweeper all state?
Posted By: The Chief Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 04:11 PM
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but back on topic IRMO will win 3-1 in regulation time.. in the high light of the the goals from the news it looked like fm wasn't playing aggressive enough defensivly against a quality team like nw, not going in for balls that could have been won (but that was just from that little clip). IRMO will bring the intensity, take everything and leave nothing. Its going to be a very intense match. Finish it up boyz its the game ya'll have been preparing and waiting for... to show who is really #1 in SC. IRMO! real




Perhaps you need to look a little closer at FMHS stats for D for the year! They are a shutdow D and stopped most everyone they face this year. In fact they survived on defense because they have not been a big scoring machine this year. From the discussion I have seen I would say FMHS keeper is far and away better then what Irmo brings he did have a bad game against NWHS but so have mmost keepers this year.
I go back to the point I made earilier, if you can just barely get by a team FMHS beat in regular time... How are you going to win 3-1 against a team that DOMINATES FMHS 3 out 3 games this year (won 6-1,5-0,2-0)?
Explain using some kind of logic please, or just admit your using your lucky rabbit's foot
Posted By: shouldbeworking Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 04:34 PM
manchester just confirmed ESPN coverage...

this game is huge!!!

im gonna say nw 4-3 after pks

YJ44 you like boys. your comments are ridiculous. time to hang up scsoccer if your playing college in georgia
Posted By: sG Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 04:46 PM
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was Northwesterns sweeper all state?




Yes, centerback Robbie Benson was all-state. Shawn Ferguson, who was also all-state, who usually plays center-mid, will also probably start in the back. Zack Clark has been slightly injured and has not been starting in the midfield. I'm pretty sure he will be ready saturday. And don't forget, he was also all-state last year and is headed to Liberty to play. So watch out for that stout NW Defense Irmo!
Posted By: pnedvedpcrouch2391 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 05:21 PM
still all the same i think irmo will exploit nw's d
Posted By: sG Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 05:24 PM
If by exploit you mean score a couple of goals, then yes you are right. Irmo might score 1 or 2 goals, but I guarantee NW will "exploit" Irmo's defense and score 3+. I'll stick with my prediction, NW 4 Irmo 2.
Posted By: RobertT420 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 06:31 PM
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Slow down there Robert. How can you say Irmo is the best "bar none"? I mean do you honestly think they are that much better than NW? And unless your some sort of prophet, your comment about Jah, as you call him, just takes all credibility away from you. Get real my friend. Northwestern shall reign!




I do not honestly think that either team is better. They match up pretty evenly on paper and i think it will boil down to how well Irmos backfield can contain enzo and alex. But on the comment about Jah, i do not think im a prophet, all im doing is getting my team pumped up. By the way, you even know what Jah is lad?
Posted By: joplin12 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 07:24 PM
I'm not really a big fan of either of this teams. But i have seen and played them. NW is a great team and so is Irmo. Saying that i hate what im about to say but i believe irmo is goin to pull out with the W. They have the all around players besides in the goal. But neither teams are strong in that position. And i hope ESPN is there bc south carolina has great soccer all over the state.

Irmo 2
NW 1
Posted By: Gianfranco Zola Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 08:11 PM
Northwestern:
Combined W-L-T record of Opponents: 196-127-6
Goals Scored: 144 - Goals Allowed: 9

Irmo:
Combined W-L-T record of Opponents: 197-139-11
Goals Scored: 152 - Goals Allowed: 11

Should be a great matchup with lots of opportunities and hopefully goals for both sides, want to look good for the rest of the nation on ESPN. Having said this i give an unbiased edge to Northwestern becuase they know what it is like to play in these big games with the big pressure i think theyll put it out and bring home their third championship under the guidance of Enzo.
4-2 NW
Posted By: SoccersBest Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 11:15 PM
Irmo vs. Northwestern

Each team proves their offensive prowess by averaging 6+ goals per game and their defensive stability by averaging less than .5 goals against per game.

Enzo and Alex will provide NHS with a lot of options in the attacking third by engaging defenders and playing through the lines.

Acree, Leo, and Emmitt will be able to control the ball and break down NHS defense through passing and movement off the ball. This combined with the holding capability of Kyle M. and the pace of Varney will work in Irmo’s favor.

As said before, each team has a solid defense. This being the case, I still feel as though it will be an offensive transition game. A stellar offense verse a solid defense will provide the crowd with a lot of goal scoring opportunities.

Final score:
Irmo – 5
Northwestern – 3

The ability of Irmo to break down defenses through movement on and off the ball will be too much for NHS to handle. Enzo and Alex will find a way to keep NHS in the game through individual moments of brilliance.
Posted By: Scholes18 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/21/09 11:55 PM
No way Enzo loses his last high school game.
NW 4
irmo 1
Posted By: charles9 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 12:43 AM
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No way Enzo loses his last high school game.
NW 4
irmo 1




I think that many people only think that this is Enzo last game. There is a whole squad of Irmo seniors that want to bring the CHAMPIONSHIP back to Irmo and for themselves. All I am saying is that there are going to be 15+ seniors on both teams that will do anything to win this game(not just one player)
Posted By: pinger90 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 01:01 AM
Really one person is not gonna make a difference against a team like IRMO and then you got hubbard man marking him making his touches as minimal as possible. As good as enzo is he won't win them the game
Posted By: Gianfranco Zola Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 01:14 AM
a player does change the game in these big games, look how many times ronaldo has changed it for manu by one simple kick or drogba has changed it by getting a dumb card or missing a chance.....i realize that is professionals, but the same reasoning applies one shot out of the blue can change the game, their is no way how good the irmo defense is that they will be able to stop northwestern and especially enzo
Posted By: Scholes18 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 01:21 AM
sorry guys didnt mean to spark a debate. I was just saying that this is Enzos last game. Who, is considered possibly by some the best HS player in SC ever.
Posted By: pinger90 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 01:21 AM
I'm pretty sure hubbard did a very good job of shuting him down last time these teams met in upper state.
Posted By: pinger90 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 01:24 AM
I'm sure these little debates will go on untill the final result
Posted By: Scholes18 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 01:27 AM
He may have (who won that game by the way), but has hubbard scored about a bazillion goals and won two state championships while playing in three.
Posted By: mediocrates Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 01:30 AM
I'm sure even after the winner is decided on Saturday, debate will continue til the following state championship in 2010. Also if you think about..... debate will never end because theres always opinions that are going to be expressed and will continue for eternity.
Posted By: pinger90 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 01:33 AM
That wasn't my point sholes and I'm not gonna start about that game last year IRMO will settle it on sat.
Posted By: sG Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 03:22 AM
RobertT
Of course I know who Jah is. It means God and is most commonly used in the Rastafari movement, which most people do not agree with. That is why I said what I said.

To everyone who thinks Irmo is going to drop more than two goals on NW, every one of you are lunatics. I'll say it again, All-STATE DEFENDERS ROBBIE BENSON AND SHAWN FERGUSON, will not give that many goals up. The way they control that third of the field is very rare. Their communication, knowledge of the game, skills, and never say die attitudes, will not allow Irmo's offense to take over this game. Its just not going to happen. Northwestern shall reign!!! NW 4 Irmo 2
Posted By: Spartan Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 03:31 AM
It's going to be a good game, but Northwestern has never beaten Irmo when playing at Memorial Stadium
Posted By: sG Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 03:33 AM
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It's going to be a good game, but Northwestern has never beaten Irmo when playing at Memorial Stadium




Ha that is irrelevant.
Posted By: MUnited Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 03:37 AM
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It's going to be a good game, but Northwestern has never beaten Irmo when playing at Memorial Stadium




None of these players were in high school the last time they played each other in the state championship game at memorial stadium. In fact, as it has been said before, the current irmo players have never even been this far while this is Northwestern's 4th straight championship game, so experience could be a big factor as well.

And now that I think about it, that state championship game was the last time irmo actually beat Northwestern.
Posted By: Spartan Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 03:38 AM
Sorry sG, but ya can't ignore history. I don't know, it might be a curse or something.

Northwestern lost a heart breaker to IRMO the last time they played there.
Posted By: sG Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 03:46 AM
Yeah I was there, but come on lets be serious. It does not matter where they play unless you believe in curses or superstitions or bad luck or omens or whatever. It does not matter. Like MUnited said, none of the players on either team have played in a championship at Memorial. And if NW loses, it will not be because of some "curse," it will be because NW shot themselves in the foot and choked. Nonetheless, NW is not going to lose. Northwestern shall reign!!!
Posted By: Spartan Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 03:52 AM
You have a point sG. It may just be the difference in the grass in the Upstate and the Midlands.

The Memorial field plays a lot faster when it doesn't "reign".
Posted By: sG Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 04:06 AM
The are a few differences in the Graveyard and Memorial. The dimensions of Memorial, I believe, are significantly smaller and obviously the surface is not as good as the Graveyard. I do not believe this will play a big role in the game, but you never know. NW's home field is as good as it gets. It has a great surface and its width and length are as big as regulations allow. Irmo's pitch is high quality as well. Playing at Memorial will be a downsize for both teams, but I don't think it will matter.
Posted By: YellowJacket44 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 02:24 PM
NW 4 - Irmo 1

The only way Irmo will score is off a throw in. they couldnt even get build up against Wando. They scored all of their goals from set pieces. If the field is not very wide. Irmo may be able to put in more than one. With a wide field, they wont even score one. Irmos defense has been penetrated by multiple teams in their region, which their offenses dont even compare to NW. NW offense will dominate the game. and Their defense wont be broken down.
Posted By: soccer1121 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 05:59 PM
3-2 NW

NW is just has an unreal attack. They will create many chances and eventually start to put those chances away. At times it seems like they are playing 4 up top.

While their offense is legit, their defense is average which will allow irmo to burry a few but not enough to keep up with NW attack
Posted By: SoccersBest Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 06:17 PM
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They scored all of their goals from set pieces.




YJ44... if you pay attention to the NCAA National Tournament you will find that most goals are scored off of set pieces, not too many during the run of play.
Posted By: The Real Henry Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 06:34 PM
Northwestern's defense is way above average.

You people make me laugh.
Posted By: Gianfranco Zola Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 07:41 PM
dare I say the irmo players on here are almost as bad as wandos and bc parents????????????????????
Posted By: Gianfranco Zola Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 07:45 PM
how can you fault a team for taking their chances??? every professional player loves it when they get opportunities with corners and throw in or free kicks it ridiculous to criticize a team for scoring on set plays...youre just jealous cuz bc or cn did one of their ridiculous set plays on your team


and sG you are completely wrong by saying irmo has a better pitch that memorial... of course memorial is not as big as the graveyard but no high school stadium is and their pitch is top quality and prolly the best i seen in cola, no dirt patches or bumbs at all on the field and their seeting on both sides unlike the graveyard so that is an advantage
Posted By: hollywood Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 08:05 PM
Zola have you been to W.C. Hawkins to see Irmo play this year, the pitch is absolutely fantastic. I've seen college fields that aren't as nice as what Irmo got to play on this year.
Posted By: Gianfranco Zola Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 08:35 PM
sadly no i have not, i was hoping their game against wando would be there but oh well:( but i do know that their drainage system their is below par
Posted By: Gianfranco Zola Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 08:37 PM
i have been to memorial and richland one, dreher and the soccer board have done everything they can to keep the field in top shape and it certainly has worked because this season their field has been pristine, immaculate, etc....;)
Posted By: Cesc_Fabregas Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 08:39 PM
GianFranco - NW has the maximum dimensions the schsl will allow. I'm guessing that that is the size of the graveyard... just saying
Posted By: sG Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 08:42 PM
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and sG you are completely wrong by saying irmo has a better pitch that memorial... of course memorial is not as big as the graveyard but no high school stadium is and their pitch is top quality and prolly the best i seen in cola, no dirt patches or bumbs at all on the field and their seeting on both sides unlike the graveyard so that is an advantage




I'm pretty sure I'm right on this one. Like someone just said, Irmo's pitch is quality and playing at Memorial is definately a downgrade. Not as much as it is for NW though. And you are right about the seating situation. It has more seats, but I will bet anything it will be packed out.
Posted By: goirmo.mom Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 08:43 PM
This link is posted in another thread, but it bears repeating...nice coverage. Too bad WIS-TV chose to focus on hair color instead of soccer...ESPN wrote a much more interesting story.

http://sports.espn.go.com/highschool/rise/news/story?id=4197621
Posted By: HeTakesPictures Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 09:22 PM
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dare I say the irmo players on here are almost as bad as wandos and bc parents????????????????????




WTH!!!

I've been on here all year and I can't recall one condescending remark made by a BC parent. Please backup your statement.

You on the other hand must really like hearing yourself talk. Not really saying anything worthwhile and then replying to your own post.

Just curious, why did you decide to change your name?

See you at the games
Posted By: Cola Fan Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/22/09 09:40 PM
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I'm pretty sure I'm right on this one. Like someone just said, Irmo's pitch is quality and playing at Memorial is definately a downgrade. Not as much as it is for NW though. And you are right about the seating situation. It has more seats, but I will bet anything it will be packed out.




Irmo's field in the past has been garbage. Their AD/football coach likes to run downhill so it will always have that football crown and the touchlines usually are dirt due to that's where the football players stand during the game. It's pretty narrow too for today's high school soccer standards. It looked better this year from some pictures I saw posted on here with the Barbie blonds running all over it.

I haven't seen Northwestern's new field but remember the red clay of Rock Hill vividly from years ago. That place was a dump. I hear the new place is really nice (just like that awesome program they have up there now).

Memorial gets a bad wrap but it's a good high school facility. Kind of reminds me of old Sirrine Stadium in Greenville. Richland School District One has put a lot of money into the remodeling of that entire athletic facility in Rosewood and I don't see where it will be a problem tomorrow night.

Now if only Dreher could get some decent Blue Devil teams to return to playing on that pitch!
Posted By: Scholes18 Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/23/09 12:38 AM
I propose a wager. If NW wins then pinger has to run out onto the field and dye his hair purple. If irmo wins then pinger doesnt have to do that. Whos in
Posted By: Gianfranco Zola Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/23/09 01:22 AM
im not saying it condescending i was just referring to how much talk they have done since the wando game, its unheard of, i expect parents to do that but i dont like it when the players do
Posted By: shouldbeworking Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/23/09 01:34 AM
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I propose a wager. If NW wins then pinger has to run out onto the field and dye his hair purple. If irmo wins then pinger doesnt have to do that. Whos in




i like your thinking scholes!

true or false: pinger is the most-hated poster on scsoccer

should be alot closer than i thought. heard irmo boys are fired up for this one!!
Posted By: MUnited Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/23/09 02:00 AM
if you aren't fired up, you don't belong in the state championship game. it will come down to execution.
Posted By: Mad River Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/23/09 02:23 AM
Not sure about years in the past but this season, Irmo's field was "like butter".
Posted By: chikfila Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/23/09 03:30 AM
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I propose a wager. If NW wins then pinger has to run out onto the field and dye his hair purple. If irmo wins then pinger doesnt have to do that. Whos in




despite this being the most hilarious post of the season, pinger will already be on the field either crying or thanking acree and mucofsky for his new ring
Posted By: Gianfranco Zola Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/23/09 04:33 PM
the message boards have really dried up, i guess the irmo coaches told their players to take a day off from the message boards
Posted By: Futbol Fan Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/23/09 06:15 PM
Prediction
Northwestern 4
Irmo 2

Although a lot of the talk has been about Enzo, I feel that his supporting cast will prove themselves and be too much for Irmo to handle. My prediction is that Enzo will break free to put at least one away but Garbonzo/Moore will add a few as well. If anyone has game footage/video available please let me know, for I unfortunately will be unable to attend the match. Thanks
Posted By: Young Jeezy Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/23/09 06:46 PM
I heard their selling scalped tickets in the parking lot 5 for 45!
Posted By: Spartan Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/24/09 12:23 AM
Wow....That head Ref has quite an EGO
Posted By: swtcarolinagrl Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/24/09 01:21 AM
Final NW 3 - Irmo 1
Posted By: Cola Fan Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/24/09 01:47 PM
Quite simply, the better team (and the best I've ever seen on the final weekend in Columbia) won last night. What an atmosphere! Say what you will about Stone Stadium but Memorial Stadium is the best setting for the High School State Championships. Having the two teams on each side of the field is tremendous and the 8,000 on hand last night saw an intense battle for 7/8 of the match.

I've never seen a soccer team so fit and powerful as Northwestern. They dominated the midfield, especially #2, and their forward trio of #10, #14, and #17 just proved to be too much for Irmo. #3 is a hammer in the back and plays the game with such awareness. #7 is a workhorse who goes 100 miles per hour and has some deadly throw-ins (so did #8 for Irmo - geesh, 40-yard throw-ins on absolute ropes). #24 is a towering figure and really dominated in the air. #8 is strong on the ball and #12 seemed ready every time he was called on. Impressive!

When it was 3-0 it might have well been 10-0 because even though there is a gulf between NHS and IHS this year compared to everyone else, there is a definite gap between #1 and #2. Any other Irmo team would have taken home the title, but the run that the Trojans are enjoying right now is simply unbelievable. 3 state titles in 4 years and a 4A Upper State Championship every season since 2003 except for 2005 when they lost in the finals of that playoff stage.

I don't want to discredit Irmo - they are fantastic, too. But, really no comparison this season. #10 was outstanding. #4 was very good. I never saw #7 and thought that Irmo looked suspect with #9, #16, and #20 in the back - but who wouldn't against NHS? One weak spot looked to be in the net especially in the second half. A couple of reflex saves, but not much presence in the box for such a big match.

It was a joy watching Enzo for the last time and I'm sure we will see him excel at Chapel Hill as will all the other guys going wherever they are headed.
Posted By: The Real Henry Re: #1 NW vs #2 IRMO - AAAA FINAL - 05/24/09 04:43 PM
3-1... yaaaaa
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