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How many games have you watched as a formerref?

First off I was not at the Swansea-Airport game last night, but have seen them play before...Airport at the VC and Swansea in the playoffs in 2009. It sounds like to me that you are a little aggravated with people always pointing fingers at the referees. Which is the case more often then not, however more often then not it is the referee that could make or break a game. Maybe not for this game, but I have seen my share of a few. Irmo vs. South Aiken boys 2005 state championship match; the referee cost Irmo the state championship by not declaring a goal when the ball clearly crossed the goal line (there once was posted video footage). Last year in the Carolina Classic a ref allowed 6 minutes of extra time to be added to a match that was the difference in a tie and win for BC over Fort Dorchester. I could keep going, but I'm not. The point is refs make bad calls all the time, some worse then others. Now don�t get me wrong I will be the first one to vouch for a referee, because I was a �former ref� myself. Its hard work and two even three people can�t see everything, but an apology or explanation can go quite a ways especially during a heated battle. Also consistency will only be gained if we as a state require more from our refs. A lousy �open book� test and two scrimmages just doesn�t cut it. Life guards have to know how to swim, tread water and give CPR in order to save lives; shouldn�t referees be required to run and keep up with the play during a match.

Another thing� �unbiased� is the worst adjective used for a referee; there are more ex-coahces, ex-players and ex-parents out there referring games that were once bitter rivalry games they were involved in. Once a Carolina fan always a Carolina fan. One day you�re not going to wake up and scream, C-L-E-M-S-O-N (unless you are Brad Scott

)! Same thing is true with Irmo, Dutch Fork, Riverside, Eastside. People once affiliated with certain teams should not ref games for those teams or regions games for that particular school.

I�m off my soap box now, carry on!!!

For what its worth; I was a little disappointed with the Swansea score however, not taking anything away from Airport solid victory on their part. Seeing Swansea play last year I thought they could be a real threat in region 5 given every other team lost key contributors. Kudos to Coach Morris who obviously had his girls ready to play.

Ashley Ridge at Garrett Academy of Technology 3.16.10

Ashley Ridge 9
Garrett Tech 0

7-0 at half
goals: Wall, McNally, Turpin, Cartwright, McDonough, Waterhouse 2, Blanchard 2

Notsofastfriend, which post are you referring to that I did not quote in mine? It was just curious that you kept referring to FIFA rules on a HS soccer forum.

3/16

@ Summerville
Goose Creek 0
Summerville 7

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Notsofastfriend, which post are you referring to that I did not quote in mine? It was just curious that you kept referring to FIFA rules on a HS soccer forum.

"It" was just curious?

Here ya go Coach P

They might be different than FIFA. FIFA has no such issuance of a card for a coach

3/16 at Camden

JV Girls
Camden 2 v Lugoff Elgin 0

V Girls
Camden 2 v Lugoff Elgin 2
PK's 3-2 in favor of Camden

Hard fought match by both teams!!!

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Here ya go Coach P

They might be different than FIFA. FIFA has no such issuance of a card for a coach

If you had read my post you would see that I included a quote of this same post. I did NOT "miss" it. It's not that they might be different than FIFA. The are different than FIFA.

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"It" was just curious?

�It� being the fact that you kept referring to the FIFA rules on a HS soccer forum when HS soccer is not a part of FIFA. I guess I could have said "It was odd.." but I was using "curious" in it's connotation meaning odd, strange, novel, or unexpected.

3/16/10

J L Mann - 2
St. Joseph's - 1

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Here ya go Coach P

They might be different than FIFA. FIFA has no such issuance of a card for a coach

If you had read my post you would see that I included a quote of this same post. I did NOT "miss" it. It's not that they might be different than FIFA. The are different than FIFA.

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"It" was just curious?

�It� being the fact that you kept referring to the FIFA rules on a HS soccer forum when HS soccer is not a part of FIFA. I guess I could have said "It was odd.." but I was using "curious" in it's connotation meaning odd, strange, novel, or unexpected.

Yep...I can admit when I miss something...I went back and read your post again.

I was just making a point about the FIFA rules which the HS rules are based on. Sheesh...relax...your blood pressure will go down

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PDA - May 29,30

Seattle - 2nd week in July

Thanks UncleBuck. You do realize that I was kidding.....not "wishing".

Broome @ Union County on 3/16

Broome - 2
Union County - 0

Goals - Floyd (2), Assists - Lewis (1), Saves - Henderson (2)

3/15 @ AC Flora

Dreher 3
AC Flora 0

I actually hate to bring this up as this thread is for scores but I have just caught up with a days worth of posts and feel the need to respond. Mr. Meredith, your accusations of a vicious attack of a forearm on your forward is just not true. The Airport defender actually had a knot forming on her own forehead, so unless she attempted to knock herself out with her own arm in the process, its impossible. It was an accidental head to head collision. All wish your forward a speedy recovery as she is a talented player. Speaking of talented players, nice shout out for the opposing team's forward with no mention of your own player's great goal, club recruiting? hmmm...I agree with formerref, soccer is a team sport. Without the rest of the team the ball would not reach any forward to take a shot and get all the glory! Whether it was bad reffing, good reffing or whatever, Airport won-bottom line, The two teams will meet again. I wish Swansea the best of luck, unless of course they are playing Airport, or BC for that matter...(same school district)

i'm sorry...what was the score again?

@ Christ Church

Christ Church 2
Dorman 3

Halftime: CCES 2
Dorman 0

Great game by the Lady Cavaliers (both sets of them). Dorman is a very good team and we could only hold them off for about 50 minutes. Last goal scored with about 3 minutes remaining. Thanks to Coach Lorenz and best of luck to Dorman the rest of the way.

@ Fort Mill

Fort Mill 7, Rock Hill 0

Lady Bearcats' roster depleted by injuries. Two goals in the first three minutes, Lady Jackets empty the bench.

(RH's Megan Fielden given a yellow card for conduct unbecoming an assistant coach

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3/17
Broome- 1
Gaffney- 0

Coach!
Couldn't you get the sandbags piled up in front of your goal to last 40 minutes?!?

Just kidding of course, great job taking it to the big girls tonight. I bet that was a great game to watch. Care to share some details? Or maybe we can hear from Dormansoccer himself.

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@ Christ Church

Christ Church 2
Dorman 3

Halftime: CCES 2
Dorman 0

Great game by the Lady Cavaliers (both sets of them). Dorman is a very good team and we could only hold them off for about 50 minutes. Last goal scored with about 3 minutes remaining. Thanks to Coach Lorenz and best of luck to Dorman the rest of the way.

At Kings Mountain, NC.....in OT:

Clover 3
Kings Mountain 2

Clover goes on the road and defeats the #1 ranked 3A team in the state of North Carolina!

This weekend, at the Fort Mill Invitational, Clover will play the #2 ranked 3A team in NC (Marvin Ridge) and the #10 ranked 3A team in NC (Weddington).

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I actually hate to bring this up as this thread is for scores but I have just caught up with a days worth of posts and feel the need to respond. Mr. Meredith, your accusations of a vicious attack of a forearm on your forward is just not true. The Airport defender actually had a knot forming on her own forehead, so unless she attempted to knock herself out with her own arm in the process, its impossible. It was an accidental head to head collision. All wish your forward a speedy recovery as she is a talented player. Speaking of talented players, nice shout out for the opposing team's forward with no mention of your own player's great goal, club recruiting? hmmm...I agree with formerref, soccer is a team sport. Without the rest of the team the ball would not reach any forward to take a shot and get all the glory! Whether it was bad reffing, good reffing or whatever, Airport won-bottom line, The two teams will meet again. I wish Swansea the best of luck, unless of course they are playing Airport, or BC for that matter...(same school district)

Okay, okay, I apologize. Like I said, that is what I saw at the point of attack and I believe I was the closest to the foul (closer to than the official)-I know what I saw. Anyway, how did you all score again? mmm... two free kicks... by who? EJ

I think she is a PLAYER and for the record FNJ is awesome player in every way!

Hats off to Chris Nichols and the Christ Church Cavaliers for a hard fought game. Christ Church showed alot of heart and Coach Nichols does an outstanding job at Christ Church. We knew this would be a hard game. In life you learn your greatest lessons from mistakes. In sports you learn alot from losing. Our team learned alot tonight and we were fortunate enough to walk away with a win.

Pickens 1, BHP 2 (PK's 3-1)

at BHP

Well, apparently my hobo is hanging out under the viaduct tonight and I need to post our score...remember the hobo is our official statistician but I will try to get it right...

TL Hanna 4 Byrnes 0

Cutts (unassisted beautiful shot)
Miller (agressive header off of a corner by Katie Bryan)
Boyles (not sure of assist)
Drennan (unassisted)

Academic Magnet 1
Barnwell 0

0-0 After regulation

AMHS scores 1 minute into the first overtime and holds for the win.

Great game between 2 evenly matched teams. Best of luck to Barnwell the rest of the season.

3/16/10
Providence Athletic Club 2 (PK)
Hartsville 1

Sorry coach, fell asleep on couch after a cold one. just woke up.

You got a couch......under the overpass?

Sorry, I was picturing an old school folding lawn chair. Slightly worn. No, more like tattered.

In the Fort Mill/Rock Hill game, the yellow was to the Head Coach, Coach Johnson, not the asst.

Hats off to Pickens girls. You played a hard fought game in what has become a competitive series everytime we play.

@ Andrew Jackson

AJ 1
Northwestern 5

Helena Moore (unassisted)
Helena Moore (unassisted)
Lauren Watts (Stephany Bayag)
Stephany Bayag (Helena Moore)
Stephany Bayag (Cara Pennington)

3-17 at Sumter
Airport 1 Sumter 0

cold and wet...

Re: Import
My bad. I thought it was Megan from across the field, just trying to give her props for trying to defend her players. It seemed like the fiery thing she would do.

NP. Both coaches a little short as they have lost six players in three games due to some 'soft' officiating.

"A yellow card issued for conduct unbecoming a coach."
Officiating is an issue with every level of soccer. 1. A coach should recognize the environment their players are in and make adjustments to protect their players. 2. A coach should be in control of their emotions during a game. They represent their school and community. I have not read about any other coaches being issued a yellow for this particular reason. Props to the ref...and coaches: your players are as calm as you are. Be positive role models, protect your players, and learn as much as you can about the game you are coaching. The kids deserve better.

Riverside 3, JL Mann 2 in OT

*sigh* Some context here. The comment was phrased as such to be tongue-in-cheek. Unfortunately, it was not taken as such, plus my 20/400 vision betrayed me even further and I misidentified which coach it was, as well. The card was issued for the coach yelling onto the field, after her keeper went down injured, and as she made the substitution with the only able-bodied player she had left on the bench: (paraphrased) "After the match is over, I would like to still have a team, please!" A relatively mild comment, in my view, under the circumstances.

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"A yellow card issued for conduct unbecoming a coach."
Officiating is an issue with every level of soccer. 1. A coach should recognize the environment their players are in and make adjustments to protect their players. 2. A coach should be in control of their emotions during a game. They represent their school and community. I have not read about any other coaches being issued a yellow for this particular reason. Props to the ref...and coaches: your players are as calm as you are. Be positive role models, protect your players, and learn as much as you can about the game you are coaching. The kids deserve better.

I wonder what Bobby Knight would say about this??

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Hats off to Chris Nichols and the Christ Church Cavaliers for a hard fought game. Christ Church showed alot of heart and Coach Nichols does an outstanding job at Christ Church. We knew this would be a hard game. In life you learn your greatest lessons from mistakes. In sports you learn alot from losing. Our team learned alot tonight and we were fortunate enough to walk away with a win.

Looked like your coach pulled some of the starters after you gave up first goal, and held them out till the second half (yes/no ?). Looked like coach wasn't happy with the effort to start the game. Also trap game for Dorman after big win against Mauldin.

Bobby Knight was not coaching children. A person who is employed by a school district to work with, coach, teach children should conduct themselves as such.

Pickens 5
Highlands, NC 1

at Pickens

@ Memorial Stadium in Columbia

Dreher 3
Blythewood 2

(settled in PKs)

Some good games that we would like to see scores:

Eastside/Woodruff
South Aiken/Airport
White Knoll/Greenwood
Waccamaw/Myrtle Beach
Wando/Summerville

St. Josephs- 1
Shannon Forest- 0

Goal scored with 2 minutes to go in the game. We were forced to play with a field player in goal tonight so not a terrible loss for us.

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Some good games that we would like to see scores:

Eastside/Woodruff
South Aiken/Airport
White Knoll/Greenwood
Waccamaw/Myrtle Beach
Wando/Summerville

South Aiken 2
Airport 1
At South Aiken

Big matchup Friday night at BC as they play S. Aiken. Good luck to both teams.

White Knoll 6 Greenwood 0
WK 3 GW 0 at the half

The White Knoll girls played pretty good. They seem to have a bright future teamwise.

Eastside 5
Woodruff 1

March 18 Girls Varsity
@ Cane Bay High School

Cane Bay 0
Ashley Ridge 8

3/18 @ Wando
Wando 5
Summerville 0

@ Camden High 3/18

Girls V
Camden 4 v Crestwood 1

Boys V
Camden 5 v Crestwood 1

Report from Sun News in MB

Girls
Waccamaw 2 v MB 1

WHS scored in the 75th minute to win the game...

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Bobby Knight was not coaching children. A person who is employed by a school district to work with, coach, teach children should conduct themselves as such.

The refs are also employed by the school district. The refs also work with children. The refs are responsible for the safety of the children on the pitch. If a bus driver was negligent in protecting the children in his or her care, he or she would no longer be a bus driver. But if you point out to a ref that JOB 1 is the safety of the children on the pitch, you are carded for "behavior unbecoming." And who is there to challenge?
I may have to video the rest of my games this year.

Porter Gaud 1 - Pinewood Prep 7
2-1 at the half and then the quality of Pinewood showed up

Swansea 10
Edisto 0

Edisto Girls have a lot of heart!

didn't you start another thread for this? now, back to the subject....

@ Easley

Wren 6
Easley 0

PS: Perhaps, the manner in which a point is made should be considered. An adult should be able to present their concern (s) in an appropriate manner. Is there is a system in place for voicing concerns?

South Aiken 2:0 B-C

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didn't you start another thread for this? now, back to the subject....

@ Easley

Wren 6
Easley 0

I did, but I was looking at scores and someone had put the topic back over here. Didn't mean to cause consternation.

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PS: Perhaps, the manner in which a point is made should be considered. An adult should be able to present their concern (s) in an appropriate manner. Is there is a system in place for voicing concerns?

Frankly, no, there is not. And adults also ought to be able to listen to criticism without becoming overly defensive. Having refereed quite a few games over the years myself, I realize that some coaches simply don't know the laws (FIFA) or the rules (NFHS), and that's annoying. But some of us do, and some of us do express ourselves reasonably. But some refs cannot tolerate even the slightest criticism.

WHITE KNOLL 4 NORTH AUGUSTA 0

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Bobby Knight was not coaching children. A person who is employed by a school district to work with, coach, teach children should conduct themselves as such.

The refs are also employed by the school district. The refs also work with children. The refs are responsible for the safety of the children on the pitch. If a bus driver was negligent in protecting the children in his or her care, he or she would no longer be a bus driver. But if you point out to a ref that JOB 1 is the safety of the children on the pitch, you are carded for "behavior unbecoming." And who is there to challenge?
I may have to video the rest of my games this year.

Did you really just compare the job of the ref to the job of a bus driver? BTW...the refs are independent contractors...they are not employed by anyone. If they were, we could fire them.

@BE 4
Southside Christian 0

Boiling Springs 2 - Hillcrest 0

I heard of a home field advantage being a good 12th man. However, we were playing in the Springs. So Hillcrest, just played with 12 players for the first 30 mins. Too funny.

wouldn't have been funny if the score were reversed.

I noticed on the Eurosport website that White Knoll doesn't play Aiken or Orangeburg and only plays Richland Northeast 1 time...don't they play all the teams in their region,or is the schedule not correct?? The other teams in the region all seem to meet up 2 times-home and away...is there a reason for this?

okay what is one to do, based on them doing that?

Did you really just compare the job of the ref to the job of a bus driver? BTW...the refs are independent contractors...they are not employed by anyone. If they were, we could fire them.

In the limited sense that a significant portion of the job involves concern for the safety of the children in their care, yes I did. It is perfectly legitimate in argumentation to construct limited analogies.
They are independent contractors, yes, but so are many coaches, and I responded to a comment regarding coaches' acting like adults. So, what's the problem?

Byrnes Invitational 3/19

Spartanburg 1
Greenville 3

Polk County 1
Dorman 3

@ Goose Creek
Beaufort 4 Goose Creek 0
2-0 @ half

Goals:
-Molly Murphy assisted by Morgan Conners
-Molly Murphy assisted by Anna Stoddard
-Anna Stoddard assisted by Amanda Conners
-Anna Stoddard assisted by Amanda Conners

At South Pointe

Blythewood 6

South Pointe 0

tk

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Boiling Springs 2 - Hillcrest 0

I heard of a home field advantage being a good 12th man. However, we were playing in the Springs. So Hillcrest, just played with 12 players for the first 30 mins. Too funny.

Zen master not sure you have your facts correct.Hillcrest played with 12 players for about 2 seconds. One of our girls did not realize she was being taken out of the game. She stepped off the field then back on and the ref immediately stopped the game and made her get back off. Maybe if he would of let her stay on for 30 min. we could of scored.

Kidding aside I thought both teams played well. BS scores on a nice direct kick in the first half and we couldn't put one away. The 2nd goal came very late in the game when Hillcrest went to 3 defenders to try and tie it up.

Congratulations to coach Broome on a good game. The rematch should be another good one. Hopefully we will get a better outcome

ACADEMIC MAGNET 1, CARDINAL NEWMAN 0

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I noticed on the Eurosport website that White Knoll doesn't play Aiken or Orangeburg and only plays Richland Northeast 1 time...don't they play all the teams in their region,or is the schedule not correct?? The other teams in the region all seem to meet up 2 times-home and away...is there a reason for this?

The games only get posted if the schools submit their schedules to scsoccer.com. Apparently those 4 schools have not submitted their entire schedules. Not sure what's up with Ron this year because Aiken have usually submitted theirs in the past but the other three have not. All of the teams in region V-AAAA must play each other twice or forfeit those games.

Friday night scores from the Fort Mill Invitational:

Northwestern 2, Charlotte Olympic (NC) 1
Fort Mill 1, Lake Norman (NC) 1
South Mecklenburg (NC) 3, Nation Ford 0
Weddington (NC) 4, Clover 0

West Ashley at James Island
WA 3
JI 0

Finial score correction:

Polk County HS 1
Dorman HS 4

At Berkeley:

Fort Dorchester 5
Berkeley 1

1-0 Fort at half...deadly accurate artillery fire from deep midfield caught us way offguard in the second. Great fast-paced passing game by the Fort got them into position to set up the shots...time to wake up and speed up our game!

Gilbert 1
Barnwell 1

(Gilbert wins 5-3 in PKs)

Questionable calls on both goalkeepers during Pks for coming off line...when shot straight over the goal! Gilbert allowed to retake two of their PKs and made good on both retakes.

Pinewood 2
Cardinal Newman 1

Tied 1-1 at the end of 80. Pinewood scored about 1 min into OT.

Entschuldigung, Sepp! I went by what was on the scoreboard at the end of the game.

Byrnes Invitational on 3/20:

Polk County 0
Spartanburg HS 1

Greenville 0
Byrnes 1

Lady Raiders not too unhappy with this weekend. All juniors on Washington trip, only two JV-players on our bench today, having an attacking game on one goal but could not score, missed a PK, and had only two shots on our goal - one was a breakaway which led to the game deciding goal after our two center backs accidently head-butted each other... Lesson plans for next week: FInishing, finishing, finishing.. and how to prevent knocking each other out.;-)

3-19 at airport
Airport 11 Pelion 3

Saturday scores from the Fort Mill Invitational:

Rock Hill 2, York 1
Northwestern 0, Forsyth Country Day School (NC) 0
First Presbyterian Day School (GA) 3, Lexington 0
Hilton Head 3, Kettle Run (VA) 0
Marvin Ridge (NC) 2, Clover 0
Westminster Catawba Christian 4, York 1
Nation Ford 3, Rock Hill 0
Charlotte Catholic (NC) 4, Hilton Head 0
Ardrey Kell (NC) 3, Lexington 0
Fort Mill 3, First Presbyterian Day School (GA) 0

@ Bishop England

Christ Church 3
Bishop England 0

Thanks to Coach Snyder and the BE girls for a great game and incredibly beautiful weather. There was talk beforehand of cancelling and going to the beach...It couldn't have been a nicer day. The Lady Cavaliers appreciate the hospitality and sportsmanship by the Bishops. Good luck the rest of the way!

Sunday morning at the Fort Mill Invitational:

Fort Mill wins it!
Fort Mill 3, Hilton Head 1

Other scores:
Kettle Run (VA) 4, Rock Hill 0
Clover/Lexington and Northwestern/Nation Ford still in progress.

3.19 @ Stratford

Stratford 8
Colleton Cty 0

Last scores from the Fort Mill Invitational, in the rain

Clover 2, Lexington 0
Nation Ford 1, Northwestern 0

It was a great tournament, and there are LOTS of scores to be posted on the website

A very busy weekend for all !

They play all the region teams twice.

St. Joseph's vs J. L. Mann at SJCS
1-1 2 OT
Mann wins in PK's 2-1

St. Joseph's vs Heathwood Hall at SJCS
St. Joseph's-3
Heathwood Hall-2

WF 8 Sumter 0

Chapman @ Broome 3/19

Broome - 1
Chapman - 0

Goal - Ramirez, Assist - Rudasill, Saves - Henderson (3)

Observer and everyone else,

Let me just set the record straight since I was at the game. First of all, inaccurate rumors are flying around. The comment that was made, was first of all about the wrong coach, and totally unnecessary. The word "unbecomming" was harsh. Here is what was said word for word "Ref we would like to have a team after this game." This was after Rock Hill already lost a player to a hard tackle and someone running into the Rock Hill goalie. Both Rock Hill High coaches work very hard to teach the game of soccer and sportsmanship. It is very upsetting that comments were made to suggest otherwise. Rock Hill has already had 6 girls injured because off "soft" officiating and wanted to protect their players.

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I noticed on the Eurosport website that White Knoll doesn't play Aiken or Orangeburg and only plays Richland Northeast 1 time...don't they play all the teams in their region,or is the schedule not correct?? The other teams in the region all seem to meet up 2 times-home and away...is there a reason for this?

Of the 4 schools you mentioned that don't have their entire schedules on eurosportscoreboard.com, three have the complete schedules on their school's athletics website:
Aiken Girls Schedule
RNE Girls Schedule
White Knoll Girls Schedule

Not sure why they didn't submit these to scsoccer.com.

OW's website still has the 2009 schedule.