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What is considered a good ratio of saves for a keeper in a HS PK shootout?
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I believe that 1 stop is average, and there is an average of 1-2 shots that miss goal (outside the goal frame) that aren't really stops.
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I read a statistic towards the beginning of the season that said professional keepers average 6 saves per 100 penalty kicks.
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Good ratio of saves in HS PK's is 1-2 of 5 or 20-25%.
An above average keeper will hit 30-35%.
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Good ratio of saves in HS PK's is 1-2 of 5 or 20-25%.
An above average keeper will hit 30-35%.
does this include misses by the shooter or just stops by the keeper.
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In the girls Riverside vs J L Mann game, during OT PK's it seemed like the keepers relied on their teammates making their kick instead of actually making a stop. Neither keeper put a finger on a shot.
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The pressure is on the kicker. The Walhalla-Christ Church game was the same- neither keeper touched the ball.
8 players placed the ball perfectly, 2 balls hit the posts and 1 was put over.
Sometimes great saves are made, but usually saves are made because the kicker does not have the perfect shot.
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I watched a kid in the State Cup block 5 PK's (all on goal) in the boy's end. Pretty impressive. He wasn't even the starting goalkeeper either.
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The pressure is always on the kicker to make the shot, not on the keeper to make the save. Keeper coaches stress this. A well coached and experienced keeper can do things to gain an advantage over the kicker, but it is not expected that she will make the save.
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Then what does a keeper coach stress in OT PK's? which by the way are totally different than a regulation time PK.
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It depends on how the GK reacts to PKs if they love them then they usually do good with saving them ... if they dont then they might not do so hot ... also it is all about reading the kicker to decide which way they are going you and its dependent a lot on reaction also... All GK coachs teach differently some say to guess a side and dive and others say wait and react but it is really up to the keeper to decide what is more comfortable for them.
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Then what does a keeper coach stress in OT PK's? which by the way are totally different than a regulation time PK.
How are they different, other than having to play the rebound during regulation?
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Not being silly but you answered your Q already. Playing the rebound is the entire difference. Most saves you make in order to not allow a rebound.
Make a save + keep the ball= two things, make a save= one thing. Get on a ceral box by making the PK shooter keep her shirt on = priceless.
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The pressure is always on the kicker to make the shot, not on the keeper to make the save.
Totally Disagree.  I've never spoken to a keeper who wasn't anxious during PK's. I've never seen a keeper loose in PK's and blame their shooters for not making all their shots when the Keeper didn't make any saves. Keepers are just as important to do their job and the keepers and are under more pressure because they face 5 kickers. Show me a keeper who doesn't feel the pressure to stop the shot and I'll show you a keeper who lacks PASSION! 
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I read a statistic towards the beginning of the season that said professional keepers average 6 saves per 100 penalty kicks.
I'd like to see that statistic. I think this is way under stated. I would GUESS that 30% of pros save PK's.
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Mam, I'm just repeating what the professional keeper coaches have told my daughter during training.
I know keepers get anxious during PK's, it would be unnatural if they didn't. But if the kickers don't make their kicks, the saves mean nothing.
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Sorry, I read in your prior post Keeper Coach, not Professional Keeper Coach. So what you mean is one gets paid to coach keepers and the other was a professional Keeper who coaches? I expect the one who is paid to coach keepers is relaxed and uses a psych job to tell players its the kickers who are under all the pressure... while the Professional Keeper who also coaches knows the pressures of being fired if he/she didn't stop any PK's.
I've also been around Keepers who were professionals (MLS) and every one of them said it was their job to stop the ball. Pressure or not?
I think we're getting into a which came first scenerio of the chicken and the egg. I'll be happy to agree that both have pressures and if they can't handle it, then step aside and let someone else handle pk's.
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PS Here's my 2 cents about PK's. They are fine during the game, but if a game ends in a tie (like EPL) then let it end in a tie. When a playoff game goes to PK's after 30 minutes, it's a terrible way to end the game... so add more playing overtime.
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I mean a former professional keeper who now coaches keepers as her chosen profession (major D1 university).  And yes, they both have pressures and if they can't handle it, they should not be involved in PK's.
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PS Here's my 2 cents about PK's. They are fine during the game, but if a game ends in a tie (like EPL) then let it end in a tie. When a playoff game goes to PK's after 30 minutes, it's a terrible way to end the game... so add more playing overtime.
Definitely agree!
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PS Here's my 2 cents about PK's. They are fine during the game, but if a game ends in a tie (like EPL) then let it end in a tie. When a playoff game goes to PK's after 30 minutes, it's a terrible way to end the game... so add more playing overtime.
I can't say I quite agree with that. (For the record, I am a starting varsity goalkeeper.) Our team went into OT Penalty Kicks four times this year; I sure would have hated to end all four of those in ties.
You suggest adding more overtime play...in some instances, that might work. However, I'm not sure it's a better idea than the setup we already have to settle ties. Playing soccer is a very physically demanding sport; from my own experiences, I've seen games get extremely physical in the final minutes of a close match...not to mention the players have already gone through 80 minutes of regulation time when overtime rolls around. I like the system they have with both regular season and playoff matches.
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I can't think of many (if any) Professional soccer leagues, College leagues and Club soccer leagues that don't end a regular game in a tie. Two teams battle it out for regulation and end all locked up, then both should get credit. Win =3, Tie =1, Lose =0. I know in America (High School) we change rules to fit our culture (winner take all), but what if we got this wrong?
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Make a save + keep the ball= two things, make a save= one thing. Get on a ceral box by making the PK shooter keep her shirt on = priceless.
This gets my vote for post of the YEAR!!!!
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