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Re: State Cup Results socdad #120291 05/12/09 07:40 PM
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mustangs kick off M Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 49	With all thats been said about the seeding. Who is the best team left in the Boys U13 tourny? I know that all three areas of the state is represented. Last edited by mustangs; 05/12/09 07:43 PM.

Re: State Cup Results mustangs #120292 05/12/09 08:08 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 190 F Fireant goal kick
Fireant goal kick F Joined: May 2008 Posts: 190	So are you folks saying we should deny a team the opportunity to play premier because they may not win any games? How about the exposure this gives the kids and the opportunity to play against the best teams in the Region. Isn't their any value in exposing the #2 team in the state so they may improve their play?

Re: State Cup Results mustangs #120293 05/12/09 08:11 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 190 F Fireant goal kick
Fireant goal kick F Joined: May 2008 Posts: 190	Quote: With all thats been said about the seeding. Who is the best team left in the Boys U13 tourny? I know that all three areas of the state is represented. My predictions on the boys side for the finals. U13 - CESA v. Lexington County U14 - CESA v. MPSC

Re: State Cup Results Snicklefritz #120294 05/12/09 11:45 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 165 J JAK goal kick
JAK goal kick J Joined: May 2009 Posts: 165	Quote: you are using the NFL as justification,but more sports use a normal tournament format. Professional baseball, basketball and hockey reseed. College football playoffs (not BCS) reseed. What are the "more sports" that determine the champion without reseeding. Not a tournament, but the actual league champion. You've named one (NCAA Divison 1A Basketball). But to make it clear, in terms of determining a state champion, I think reseeding is irrelevant. You beat everyone you play and you are state champion. You don't beat everyone and you shouldn't be state champion. However, I think for properly determining PL representatives of the state (and to best represent the state), reseeding is important to get the best two representatives. Every team still has an equal chance to earn a PL berth, but that equal chance is determined over the entire season, not just based on the initial seedings. Last edited by JAK; 05/13/09 02:00 AM.

Re: State Cup Results JAK #120295 05/13/09 04:11 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,521 Summerville C coldhardtruth hat-trick
coldhardtruth hat-trick C Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,521 Summerville	Parker, Did you miss the not all part? Thanks for doing the math..How many CESA teams had winning records? Since you have done the math Last edited by coldhardtruth; 05/13/09 04:26 AM.

Re: State Cup Results coldhardtruth #120296 05/13/09 12:31 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 167 S Snicklefritz Goal Kick
Snicklefritz Goal Kick S Joined: May 2008 Posts: 167	JAK, The reality is that instead of reseeding, SC should go to a relegation/promotion system to avoid those "winless" teams. The EPL send their top 4 teams to the champions league. There is not tournament. My arguement is that if you are going to play a tournament, and you are the best team, you will beat everyone anyhow. Use the state cup tournament for Regionals not for RPI3. Use the challenge league standings for that. Then use rel/pro. Don't reseed in stated cup that way if "cinderella" wins they play at the regional finals but NOT RPi3.

Re: State Cup Results Snicklefritz #120297 05/13/09 01:28 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 90 R Raekwon throw in
Raekwon throw in R Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 90	CHT: I'm just Joe Friday giving you the facts. The 14,16,17, and 18 boys had winning records. The 15 girls had a winning record. Not sure about the 18 girls. Addendum #2: Spring 2009- Bridge 14 boys 1-10. SAA 14 girls 0-11.

Re: State Cup Results Raekwon #120298 05/13/09 01:36 PM
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coldhardtruth hat-trick C Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,521 Summerville	Hey Joe, You left out the CESA 14 girls 2-7-2

Re: State Cup Results coldhardtruth #120299 05/13/09 01:50 PM
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Raekwon throw in R Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 90	That record was included in my first post. More detail: 16 girls 4-5-2. 17 girls 0-9-1.Not sure about the 18 girls. Believe those are correct. More familiar with the boys side.Boys 15 3-5-2 off the top of my head. Hope that helps. Last edited by Parker Lewis; 05/13/09 01:51 PM.

Re: State Cup Results Raekwon #120300 05/13/09 01:59 PM
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coldhardtruth hat-trick C Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,521 Summerville	18 girls were 4-7

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