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I'll bet that NC and GA began classifying U19 because teams with U19 players requested it. There probably hasn't been a request made to the SCYSA. If you have a player in this situation, I would contact SCYSA/League (SCSCL or PMSL) and ask if they would provide a place for a U19 team by listing the U18 division as U19 instead.

Not looking for a U-19 "team". Looking for waivers for the very few high school seniors that are in this situation, so that they can play U-18.

U19 instead of U18 seems like the easy way top go, then no one has to do waivers but I wonder what problems this would create with college kids playing against HS kids? For example what conduct problems (cards)carry over from club to school ball?

Playing Devils advocate here what will be the uproar the first time a college aged player takes out HS star player (intentional or not). I am sure there are other concerns that would be raised.

I am with Hurst, thinking that a select few would need the waivers and the case basis method would be the best way to go.

That's a fair trade. Agree that the player should not be eligible for U-18 state, regional or national cup play.

.....but let the player participate during the regular season and allow the team to qualify for state cup play (minus the overage player).

I think it would be alright, but if its SCSCL, what about the 9th place team that thinks they would have qualified for State Cup as the 8th seed if the overage player had not been allowed to play? Yes, I know an 8 seed has probably never made it to the final, but I guess there's always a first time and someone is bound to complain.

I think it should be fine in PMSL since all PMSL teams are eligible to play in the President's Medal Cup and seeding is only used for cup pairings.

Yes I agreed with him, I was just pointing out that the GA answer "sounded" good but that it left some holes that some people would find reasons to drive thru and complain as there will always be those opposed to change or things that will "hurt" the chance for their team to win, as pointed out with the 8th seed situation. My hope would be that the focus would be on doing what is right for the HS eligible players.

Coach P makes a valid point; while the U19 players wouldn't directly affect the outcome of State Cup, they could potentially affect the seeding. I would like to see the U19 high school players have an opportunity to play, though. I have a girl in that situation even now; due to events from years ago, she is a year older than her classmates and will miss the cutoff to play U18 her senior year, although she is still eligible to play on the HS team.

PMSL could be a good place to start addressing this issue; as Coach P points out, a team's success in the PMSL season with the U19 player would not affect their or anyone else's eligibility to compete in the PMSL Cup. I think a lot of PMSL players have a focus on training and preparing for their high school seasons; this would allow those seniors access to a team to train and compete with in the fall season even if they would not be able to compete in State Cup, which would leave them much better prepared for a good senior season at their high schools. Most of all, I think players should have the opportunity to play--there should be an outlet for those who haven't graduated and entered college yet to play their sport in the fall season.