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swimmer2 #76739 04/22/07 02:14 PM
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How do know that they are the best trainers if they only train the best players? If you had a trainer that had a average team or group of players and found ways to consistantly win..Would he not fall into the category of best trainer?

mpheel #76740 04/22/07 02:14 PM
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MPHeel, you are right. There is no place for the classic player w/ challenge or premier skills in MPSC to move up to. Those players are moving to BFA and CESA. The DOC's focus in MPSC has been the academy age. Hopefully, with a combination effort in U13-18 with Charleston United some effort is being focused on the older age groups. MPSC DOC's philosoply for coach involvement during the games is going to be the last nail in the coffin.

swimmer2 #76741 04/22/07 02:27 PM
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>>[swimmer2] Call me back after a Bridge team when State Cup 6 out of 7 years.<<

Several rather trivial refutations could possibly be made:
  • One Team != Club
  • Call me back when a low-country team other than Bridge wins a USCS National Championship.
  • ...etc...


Of course, from the other perspective, you could state
  • Call me back when a girls team at Bridge makes RIIIPL-East.
  • Call me back when a girls team at Bridge wins a single state challenge cup.


I'm actually not trying to "win" an argument here, but simply point out that there are multiple sides to the argument.

Shibumi #76742 04/22/07 02:32 PM
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>>[coldhardtruth] If you had a trainer that had a average team or group of players and found ways to consistantly win..Would he not fall into the category of best trainer?<<

Yep. I always find it interesting to see what coaches of a club's "B" teams are able to do in terms of winning.

Finally, to the general point -- in my experience, the best players tend to go where the best players are -- the best coach/trainer in the world can't make up for 15 unskilled players and a pretty aggressively average coach/trainer can help a kid advance her/his skills a lot more easily with 15 highly skilled players.

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I am more impressed with the guy that does alot with alittle..If you have 15 highly skilled players then you should be winning and how about the trainers that taught these players before they moved to the team with the best players..Soccer is being taught everywhere..Stop and pay attention to what these guys and girls are doing..There are some solid trainers out there that don't always coach the best team

coldhardtruth #76744 04/22/07 10:44 PM
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The best recruiter wins!!!!

That's the beauty of HS soccer, you play with the hand that you are dealt. I realize the "non-soccer communities" are at a disadvantage but for every market that has a club influence, it is essentially fair. The coach has to work with local players.


Kids play sports because they find it fun. Eliminate the fun and soon you eliminate the kid.
Hurst66 #76745 04/22/07 11:18 PM
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Except for the private schools that keep being allowed to play on an unlevel field. . .


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cat's cradle #76746 04/23/07 06:29 PM
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At any soccer club coaches just don't get appointed good teams they have got to prove themselves overtime. Each coach strives to add to what the players have already learnt from another coaches.
Good players gravitate to each other, one way or the other. For example Jose Mourinho at Chelsea and Sir Alex and Manu and Wenger at Arsenal.

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soccerislife #76747 04/23/07 07:43 PM
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I agree with Coldhardtruth.

There are very few coaches in the area that have proven themselves at every age and level. Does anyone know of any coaches in the low country, especially with "B" teams?

soccer guru #76748 05/13/07 12:55 PM
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Last year Bridge 92 boys and Mt P 92 boys lost in the playoffs, all the signs that the two teams needs to be combined. This season, Mt P 92 boys lost yesterday, Bridge 92 boys wins and finally makes it to the final round of state-cup. Two boys that played on the MT P team last season joined the Bridge team that played in the Premier League and help them to the state cup final round this year.

Mt P has some talented players that need the exposure and experience of playing against top competition. All the players on these two teams deserve to play in the state cup final round, but divided only one team would have a chance to make it each year. Bridge FA would have a very hard game against Columbia, Good luck, you represent the low country. More parents just need to make more independent decision and leave MT P, if the organization is not willing to endorse the Bridge as the premier club and encourage the kids that have the potential to at least tryout. I hope that they consider trying out for the Bridge for next season.

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