if any club other than cesa would have won 5 state cups, finished runner up in 4 others, it would be a circus on here. there would be "insert coach's name here from cufc...for president" campaigns for the next 6 months. no other club won more than 1 state cup and that is why the message board is quiet. so, if you choose to analyze the results that way, then fine. but, the next time the results are in favor of a non-cesa club, have the same perspective and rationalization.