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Posted By: jwoodring 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/12/10 10:52 PM
Halftime
Hilton Head 1
Dreher 0
Posted By: back of the net Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/12/10 11:31 PM
Close game
Posted By: back of the net Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/12/10 11:48 PM
What from the cage? Halftime scores anyone?
Posted By: Kevin Heise Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/12/10 11:49 PM
No game at The Cage tonight, but the latest update is that B-C freshman Kacee Merritt just tied the game 1-1 in the second half at Myrtle Beach.
Posted By: back of the net Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/12/10 11:56 PM
Great game! Go bearcats
Posted By: LIVINGINTHEUK Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/12/10 11:57 PM
Looking for updates from Wando and DF anyone
Posted By: Kevin Heise Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:05 AM
Myrtle Beach 1:2 Brookland-Cayce (Final)

Bearcats will either play at Hilton Head Island or host Dreher on Friday!

Way to go Lady Bearcats!!!
Posted By: back of the net Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:06 AM
Is that a final for BC?
Posted By: Kevin Heise Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:09 AM
per reports from the Beach, it is ... this is from "student reports" ... still awaiting final word!!!
Posted By: jwoodring Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:09 AM
Final
Hilton Head 2
Dreher 1
Overtime
Posted By: Kevin Heise Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:11 AM
FINAL!!! Myrtle Beach 1-2 Brookland-Cayce

Sophomore Noel McDaniel with the game-winner with just 2 minutes left.
Posted By: back of the net Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:13 AM
Super! Great Job!
Posted By: sandman Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:14 AM
wando 3
lexi 0
Posted By: back of the net Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:14 AM
Any more updates? Upstate?
Posted By: Hobo Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:16 AM
TL Hanna- 4
Fort Mill-2

4-0 at half

Goals
Bryan-2
Drennan-1
Summer Miller-1
Assist
Bryan
Anderson
Witcher
Posted By: formerhscoach Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:17 AM
Christ Church 9
Indian Land 0
Posted By: back of the net Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:19 AM
Riverside, Eastside, Mann, Airport, Greenville?
Posted By: M Morabito Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:29 AM
@DF

DF 2 JI 1
Posted By: back of the net Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:35 AM
Good Job Dutch Fork!
Posted By: back of the net Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:40 AM
SA VS ST JAMES?
Posted By: CoachCal Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:41 AM
Spartanburg 0
Clover 2
Posted By: back of the net Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:47 AM
Wow< 4A very interesting
Posted By: SmallSodaMan Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:49 AM
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FINAL!!! Myrtle Beach 1-2 Brookland-Cayce

Sophomore Noel McDaniel with the game-winner with just 2 minutes left.




Posted By: DreherJVBoysCoach Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:54 AM
i heard that there was a very very poorly called PK called in the last 2 minutes of Double OT. VERY BIAS reffing even from a Dreher homer.
Posted By: Alister DeLong Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:04 AM
Stratford -2
West Ashley -1
Posted By: Chantman Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:07 AM
Summerville/West Florence?
Posted By: sandman Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:07 AM
as long as you heard that, it must be true
Posted By: holtsc Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:08 AM
South Aiken 6
St. James 0
Posted By: Scott Ruggles Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:11 AM
Great Job Knights, way to go on the road two rounds in a row and win...so proud
Posted By: M Allen Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:12 AM
Barnwell 5
Ashley Ridge 0
Posted By: Maverick Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:18 AM
@ Mauldin

Mauldin 2
Blythewood 0
Posted By: catsdad Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:25 AM
@West Florence in OT
Summerville 1
West Florence 0
The Summerville keeper was amazing. Must have made 30 or more saves. Congratulations to the Green Wave.
Posted By: Marta Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:27 AM
BE 10
Wade Hampton 0
Posted By: High Flyer Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:39 AM
2nd Round
@ Woodruff

Woodruff 8
Andrew Jackson 0
Posted By: back of the net Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:42 AM
Greenville? Dorman? Airport? A C Flora?
Posted By: Meredith Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:46 AM
Airport 2
NMB 0
Posted By: Celtic9 Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:48 AM
Unofficial
Dorman 2
Spring Valley 0
Posted By: thatplayer Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:55 AM
Looks like Region 5 3A wanted to prove something with 3 outta the 4 going to 3rd round and a very close game with Dreher almost pulling out that win as well.

Congrats for all the hard work these ladies have put forth all season long, I hope it continues all the way through.
Posted By: lfc Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 02:08 AM
"i heard that there was a very very poorly called PK called in the last 2 minutes of Double OT. VERY BIAS reffing even from a Dreher homer. "

Sorry Coach - you heard wrong. I'm not a big fan of PKs settling a match in any manner, but that call was obvious. Ball played into the box from the left side to the feet of a HH forward in front of the goal (near post) and a Dreher defender came from behind her and into her body - knocking her forward and off the ball. Unfortunate timing and placement, but a clear foul that denied a scoring opportunity.

Not saying that HH deserved the win, but one of those games where HH had innumerable opportunities in regulation and only finished one - while Dreher had one opportunity and finished it.

I will be surprised if HH gets by BC.
Posted By: beachfan Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 02:14 AM
At Academic Magnet

Academic Magnet 4
Hanahan 0

1-0 at half
Posted By: Goooalaso Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 02:23 AM
SSC 1 WALHALLA 2
Posted By: jwoodring Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 02:25 AM
Coach, the Dreher goal came from a questionable call on a throw in. Center missed the Assistant's flag raised and the Lady Blue Devils scored. The ref was not in top form tonight for both sides.
Posted By: chapinsoccer1234 Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 02:27 AM
@ Chapin

Chapin 0
JL Mann 2


Unfortunate for chapin, had to play Mann three times this season, and beat them the two previous times. Couldn't pull out the most important one.

Mann was very unclassy, and even with a 2-0 lead, collected 3 or 4 yellow cards for cursing, taking chapin players out without attempting to even go for the ball, and kicking the ball away from chapin players after a foul or hand ball had been called. Even the coach was making negative comments to chapin players through out the game.

Oh well, maybe karma will strike back when Mann has to travel to riverside....
Posted By: DreherJVBoysCoach Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 02:40 AM
i apologize all my reports came from the dreher side. but it is disappointing about all the poor reffing this year.
Posted By: keepergirl77 Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 03:18 AM
The Wando team was a very good host tonight! A very clean classy game by both teams. Wando was just simpley amazing in the midfield! Stinks we had to play them this early. Good luck Warriors and Coach Champ!
Posted By: Notsofastfriend Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 03:20 AM
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The Wando team was a very good host tonight! A very clean classy game by both teams. Wando was just simpley amazing in the midfield! Stinks we had to play them this early. Good luck Warriors and Coach Champ!




Props for a classy post
Posted By: CoachMorris Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 05:42 AM
Airport 2
NMB 0

long drive....
Posted By: thatplayer Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 11:31 AM
what about the waccamaw game in 2A lower state?
Posted By: Cricket Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 11:53 AM
Super nice facility at Woodruff. Great fans great team. Good luck to the Woodruff girls. Quality team!!
Posted By: letmeputittooyouthisway Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 12:30 PM
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Coach, the Dreher goal came from a questionable call on a throw in. Center missed the Assistant's flag raised and the Lady Blue Devils scored. The ref was not in top form tonight for both sides.




could you share details on the call or missed call?
Posted By: WormBurner Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:27 PM
A great game @ Wando by two very talented teams. It's really a shame that a quality team like Lexington had to exit so early in the playoffs.

Wando goals were scored by

Melissa McCool, Freshman
Brook Lisson, Senior
Kelsey Timmerman, Junior

Great play by both keepers. Amelia Henderson for Wando made 2 incredible saves to keep the score from being close. She made many excellent plays/decisions throughout the game! Definately the MVP of the night! You have to add her to the best goalies in the state list.

As a side note, the referee was terrible both ways. No game changing calls, but it would be nice to have referees that KNOW the rules, call them consistently and can keep up with game play. I know there are good referees out there. Sure hope to see them in the coming games!

Congratulations to the Lowcountry teams, Wando, Stratford and Summerville, for making it to round 3!
Posted By: Hurst66 Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:52 PM
The center referee for the Fort Mill - TL Hanna game last night was excellent. She did a great job.
Posted By: svgoal10 Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 01:56 PM
just wanted to give some props to dorman girls on a well played game last night. much better team than i expected and i would have to contribute it to some great coaching it seems like. can't say anything good about their fans tho, sorry! it was a tough one but good luck the rest of the way. still cant quite say i'm pulling for ya though, but it certainly could get interesting and people should know not under estimate them!
Posted By: sandman Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 02:16 PM
i agree about the lexington team, good team & the fullbacks matched up well with wando.
the refs were a very experienced crew last night & did a great job.
all the ref bashing is kind of silly & i would suggest some of you get certified.
Posted By: keepergirl77 Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 02:26 PM
"i agree about the lexington team, good team & the fullbacks matched up well with wando."
Thank you sandman! Our back line consisted of 2 freshman and a junior so watch out next year because these girls will be back! ha
Posted By: All-American Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 02:33 PM
TL Hanna - 4
Fort Mill - 2

WOW, wouldn't have thought this, with FM returning 21 players (from a state semi-final team), having double digit seniors and a hand picked coach. Interesting!
Posted By: DormanSoccer Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 02:33 PM
SVgoal10,

Thank you very much for the compliment! Spring Valley was a very good team and gave us all we could handle. You have one of the best and well respected coaches in the state. The keeper was outstanding for Spring Valley.
Posted By: Celtic9 Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 02:45 PM
Hey DS...get your fans in line! Must be that loud mouth mom again!
Posted By: DormanSoccer Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 02:52 PM
C9,

Easy now . I thought our parents were well behaved. They did share their dissatisfaction with some of the questionable calls being made and some of the no calls. Our parents, students and friends of Dorman Soccer drove a long way to support our ladies. And we thank them for the support and positive encouragement.
Posted By: dhunter Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 03:24 PM
[quote "but that call was obvious. Ball played into the box from the left side to the feet of a HH forward in front of the goal (near post) and a Dreher defender came from behind her and into her body - knocking her forward and off the ball. Unfortunate timing and placement, but a clear foul that denied a scoring opportunity."

Then that should have been a red card, right? Was any card issued?


Posted By: Hurst66 Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 03:25 PM
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TL Hanna - 4
Fort Mill - 2

WOW, wouldn't have thought this, with FM returning 21 players (from a state semi-final team), having double digit seniors and a hand picked coach. Interesting!




AA,

Six posts and your first five concerned the SC Rush. Wow! I saw this coming.

News flash....Pittsburgh Penguins lost last night too. Defending champs. Everybody back. Sid the Kid.

Wow!.....can't win them all.
Posted By: WormBurner Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 04:03 PM
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[quote "but that call was obvious. Ball played into the box from the left side to the feet of a HH forward in front of the goal (near post) and a Dreher defender came from behind her and into her body - knocking her forward and off the ball. Unfortunate timing and placement, but a clear foul that denied a scoring opportunity."

Then that should have been a red card, right? Was any card issued?







As exhibited in the playoff/championship games last year, some high school refs are not aware of this rule. Or is this one of those rules that don't apply to HS? Coach P???
Posted By: svgoal10 Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 04:04 PM
no problem dorman soccer!
and Celtic 9, Dorman soccer was right, the parents were fine just some of those dorman boys (and boyfriends, i think) were a little rowdy but who can blame em. everyone is but usually you just can't hear them and right about good support, it's hard to come by for girls soccer so you take what you can get; at least thats how it goes most of the time.
Posted By: Warrior Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 04:08 PM
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TL Hanna - 4
Fort Mill - 2

WOW, wouldn't have thought this, with FM returning 21 players (from a state semi-final team), having double digit seniors and a hand picked coach. Interesting!




I thought the same thing. Sometimes you get what you deserve.
Posted By: SoccerPOP9194 Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 04:43 PM
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[quote "but that call was obvious. Ball played into the box from the left side to the feet of a HH forward in front of the goal (near post) and a Dreher defender came from behind her and into her body - knocking her forward and off the ball. Unfortunate timing and placement, but a clear foul that denied a scoring opportunity."

Then that should have been a red card, right? Was any card issued?







As exhibited in the playoff/championship games last year, some high school refs are not aware of this rule. Or is this one of those rules that don't apply to HS? Coach P???




Not enough info given to make a red card determination. A foul maybe, PK maybe...a card of any color doubtful (based on the description of events).
Posted By: dhunter Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 05:14 PM
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[quote "Unfortunate timing and placement, but a clear foul that denied a scoring opportunity."

Then that should have been a red card, right? Was any card issued?







As exhibited in the playoff/championship games last year, some high school refs are not aware of this rule. Or is this one of those rules that don't apply to HS? Coach P???




Not enough info given to make a red card determination. A foul maybe, PK maybe...a card of any color doubtful (based on the description of events).




Post said the foul "denied a scoring opportunity." That should have been a red card unless HS rules don't play it that way.
Posted By: All-American Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 06:48 PM
Hurst ... You are so smart, congratulations!

Not a news flash, but good try. I follow the sports world and a saw the Penguins lose. Great analogy though!

SOS said it best, "Sometimes you get what you deserve."
Posted By: lfc Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 06:50 PM
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[quote "Unfortunate timing and placement, but a clear foul that denied a scoring opportunity."

Then that should have been a red card, right? Was any card issued?







As exhibited in the playoff/championship games last year, some high school refs are not aware of this rule. Or is this one of those rules that don't apply to HS? Coach P???




Not enough info given to make a red card determination. A foul maybe, PK maybe...a card of any color doubtful (based on the description of events).




Post said the foul "denied a scoring opportunity." That should have been a red card unless HS rules don't play it that way.




Wait a minute, my understanding of the rule is that if the last defender commits a foul inside the penalty area that denies a scoring opportunity, then a PK and red card ensue. I did not say that it was the last defender that took away the scoring opportunity. The keeper was in the goal, but the foul by the defender took away the opportunity to take a shot. My reason for saying that the foul took away a scoring opportunity was to point out that it was not a meaningless foul away from the play.

Sorry if my description was confusing.
Posted By: SoccerPOP9194 Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/13/10 09:30 PM
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[quote "Unfortunate timing and placement, but a clear foul that denied a scoring opportunity."

Then that should have been a red card, right? Was any card issued?







As exhibited in the playoff/championship games last year, some high school refs are not aware of this rule. Or is this one of those rules that don't apply to HS? Coach P???




Not enough info given to make a red card determination. A foul maybe, PK maybe...a card of any color doubtful (based on the description of events).




Post said the foul "denied a scoring opportunity." That should have been a red card unless HS rules don't play it that way.




Wait a minute, my understanding of the rule is that if the last defender commits a foul inside the penalty area that denies a scoring opportunity, then a PK and red card ensue. I did not say that it was the last defender that took away the scoring opportunity. The keeper was in the goal, but the foul by the defender took away the opportunity to take a shot. My reason for saying that the foul took away a scoring opportunity was to point out that it was not a meaningless foul away from the play.

Sorry if my description was confusing.




OK, I don't do HS so it may be different. But in us soccer league play the defender must deny a goal or an OBVIOUS goal scoring opportunity. NOTE the key word obvious. So if in the opinion of the ref it was not an obvious goal scoring opportunity there would be no red card.

Here is a clarification from US Soccer. Hope it helps clear up things.

Law 12 provides that a defender whose violation of the Law prevents a goal or denies an obvious
goal-scoring opportunity must be sent off and shown the red card. The "professional foul" which
is taken in a cynical attempt to prevent opponents from scoring requires a quick, firm response by
the referee. Such misconduct by the defender overshadows the severity of the foul itself.
In order for a player to be sent off for denying an "obvious goal-scoring opportunity," four
elements must be present:
• Number of Defenders -- not more than one defender between the foul and the goal, not
counting the defender who committed the foul
• Distance to goal -- the closer the foul is to the goal, the more likely it is an obvious goalscoring
opportunity
• Distance to ball -- the attacker must have been close enough to the ball at the time of the
foul to have continued playing the ball
• Direction of play -- the attacker must have been moving toward the goal at the time the
foul was committed
If any element is missing, there can be no send off for denying an obvious goal-scoring
opportunity. Further, the presence of each of these elements must be "obvious" in order for the
send off to be appropriate under this provision of Law 12
However, the foul might, by itself, warrant a card -- a caution for unsporting behavior, for
example, if the challenge was reckless or a send off if the challenge was violent. If the foul by the
defender is both violent and qualifies as an obvious goal-scoring opportunity offense misconduct,
the referee should include both facts in the game report but must only list one official reason for
the red card.
Referees are reminded that offenses which deny a goal-scoring opportunity are not limited to
those punishable by a direct free kick or penalty kick but may include technical fouls for which the
restart is an indirect free kick.
Posted By: Coach P Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/14/10 12:15 AM
The 2009-2010 NFHS (high school) rule book is ambiguous on this. Unless I'm really missing something, denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity is not included as one of the offenses for which a player can be sent off (red card) in Rule 12, Section 8, Article 3. However, the rule book includes a comparison between the rules of NFHS, NCAA, & FIFA. In this comparison on page 77, the NFHS Ejection- Reasons (Red Card) include the following: "foul against an opponent who is moving toward goal with an obvious opportunity to score". I have no idea why this was excluded from the list of Red Card offenses in Rule 12.
Posted By: lfc Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/14/10 03:03 AM
Wow - I can't believe that my cryptic and rather poorly stated description of the foul has resulted in such an extensive discussion of the rules. I trust that no one thinks that I was suggesting that there should have been an ejection - I was just countering the statement that the Pk was a very poor call.
Posted By: Captain Hindsight Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/14/10 05:36 PM
Sorry the hear the Chapin parent who felt Mann was unclassy.
The ref controls the style of play allowed in a game and he chose to let both sides bang on each other until the last ten minutes of the game when he started throwing yellow cards.. Any one blessed with sight could see Chapin was the aggressor from the beginning. My child got her first yellow
in ten years of playing soccer if that shows what she put up with.Our coach never spoke to the Chapin players; only to the ref and if this were an x-rated site I could tell you the lovely things that came out of your players mouth during the game. But look on the bright side. We move to 4A next year so you want have to see our unclassy fanny again.
Posted By: Big Daddy Re: 2nd Round Playoff Scores - 05/15/10 02:17 PM
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Hurst ... You are so smart, congratulations!

Not a news flash, but good try. I follow the sports world and a saw the Penguins lose. Great analogy though!

SOS said it best, "Sometimes you get what you deserve."




Malcom X called it "chickens coming home to roost." Irony is an interesting word too tho...
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