Defending Class 3A State Champion Brookland-Cayce High School will host the 3rd Annual Lady Bearcats Invitational March 17-18, 2006 at The Cage in Cayce, SC.

The eight-team tournament guarantees each participating team three matches. The entry fee is $250 and each team also must purchase a minimum of 18 t-shirts at $10 each. The entry fee is due on February 1, 2006 and the t-shirts can be paid upon arrival at the tournament.

If you are interested in competing in the LBI, please contact Coach Kevin Heise at kevin@scsoccer.com.

We are still searching for teams for this tournament. If you are interested, please contact me as soon as possible at kevin@scsoccer.com.

Bumping this up.

bumping again

What schools..if any..have been confirmed yet?

As of now, we have commitments from Brookland-Cayce, Rocky Mount (NC), Swansea and are awaiting confirmation from Sumter.

You should invite RNE. This would be a good tournament for them.

Add Chapin to the list along with Brookland-Cayce, Rocky Mount-NC, Sumter, and Swansea. The field will feature either six teams or eight teams so space is available. E-mail Coach Kevin Heise at kevin@scsoccer.com.

Are people going to have to pay at the gate also?

I'm not sure I understand your question, "Are people going to have to pay at the gate also?" ... But, yes, there will be a tournament fee for the two-day event or you can pay per match.

Just wondering since I was going to have to buy an $10 t-shirt, that she will probably never wear, from the tournament, pay to enter the tournament and have to pay to get in the gate. So this will be a $30-$40 tournament per player at least.

Why wouldn't your daughter wear a T-Shirt from a tournament she participated in?

Why do you, as an individual, have to pay for an entry fee? Doesn't Chapin HS cover this expense? Might I suggest a fundraiser of some sort if money is tight for the team.

Tournament passes will probably cost in the neighborhood of $10 to view all matches, but you could pay per game if you wish at the gate.

Also, don't forget the concession stand, which will be open for the event.

Amazingly, things cost money like officials, paint, field maintenance, programs, etc.

It wouldn't bother me if you hit me at once with the fee, but I feel like I am being nickeled and dimed to death. I always have to find an ATM on the day of the games to pay for myself and my wife to go to the games, which is $20.00 for my family.

I pay for the entry fee through the $50.00 I have to cough up for Atheletic fees from the school. So I am paying for it one way or the other.

My daughter has about 500 tournament shirts over the years and her size hasn't changed in the last 6 years. So unless you have a special color or a very cool logo on it she doesn't really want it. But I HAVE to buy it no matter the product.

I understand completely that things cost money and that you ARE using this as a fundraiser. I know you aren't doing this at a zero profit. I just wish you would could up with one cost for the team and force the coach to come to us and ask for the money if need be. I am a one price type of guy and feel cheated when people try to sell me something at a lower rate just to get me in the door and then tack on extra fees after I commit to the item.

I have no problem with the concession stand because I can take it or leave it. I am not forced to buy a hot dog and drink when I walk through the gate.

CD--The Viking cup costs $300....this one(BC's) is only $250...a $50 discount...dont know about t-shirts however?

so Kyle should just change the tournament entry fee to $890?!?! With your $890 entry fee, your program receives entry into the Tournament ($350), 18 t-shirts ($180) and 2 tournament passes for each of 18 players ($360). Is that better? Everything is included in the initial price.

The only problem with this is that no program will ever look beyond the entry fee before choosing another tourney. The costs are listed and you can easily see what it will cost before attending, but that cost will scare every team away. Most likely you will be required to pay for the t-shirt ($10) and your tickets to the game. If I remember correctly, you can buy the "all game" passes for $10 or individual game tickets for like $5. So for $20-$30 plus whatever you do for meals, you get to see your daughter play 3 soccer games. I would bet that you pay $3-$5 for regular games anyway. Kevin and Kyle list all costs. It's not like you show up at the gate and have to pay an additional $30. You know there will be a charge for the games so I fail to see how that is "nickel and diming" you. There are no hidden charges with this tourney!!

I have completely enjoyed our two appearances at this tourney!! Hopefully Coach Bennage will sign us up again.

sorry, that should be $790. I had the tourney cost $100 too high.

Bluffton has now committed to the LBI. If two more teams are interested, then we will have an eight team field, but right now stand at six: 3A Bluffton; 3A Brookland-Cayce; 3A Chapin; Rocky Mount-NC; 4A Sumter; and 2A Swansea.

Jason,

When you figure 1.5 tickets per player then it comes to $700.00, which comes out to $40.00 a parent. But lets take a little closer look at the numbers. At $10 a t-shirt BC is making about $5 a shirt, so lets not give out a shirt and save $90, so now I am down to $33 a parent if they have 18 players. Coaches or Team Managers can collect that money from the parents or do a refund raiser for the entire cost.

I really have no problem with BC making money for their team by using this tournament. I think it is a great idea and support it completely. And I would have never opened my trap if it wasn't for the T-Shirt REQUIREMENT. The tickets at the gate don't bother me that much because it is still a choice. I can choose to go or not go, my choice. I personally have only missed 3 games in my daughters entire club and HS career but I do have a choice. The $250 tournament fee again is not a problem because I made the CHOICE to pay Chapin $50 for Soccer Fees that could be used by the coach for such things. But I never had a choice in the t-shirts. I will be hit up for $10 and I never had a choice, it was taken away from me. I like living in America not China, where I have some freedoms of choice. If BC sold the t-shirts at the gate for $15.00 I would probably buy one if my daughter really liked them, but at least the decision would be mine and BC would have to make sure that the t-shirts are of good quality and have something appealing about them. Which is why I support the market economy.

One last note. Kyle's response also crawled under my skin. His last sarcastic comment about how I must be to stupid to fully understand the cost of things and trying to imply that they make nothing off this tournament.

Chapindad -- Your last comment is why I don't generally respond to parents on this forum because I've often been told that I'm too direct, but, ... in your case.

Yes, this is considered a fundraiser by our athletic department and we are encouraged to host such events (LBI, Palmetto Cup, JV Preseason Tourney). However, those costs that were provided are real costs and have to be covered in order to make any profit.

The t-shirt "requirement" more or less developed about six years ago as a result of the experience of the Palmetto Cup. We would buy 200 t-shirts and have 100+ folks upset that we didn't have more to sell. Now we simply have each team purchase the 18 (as past experience indicates that most like the tourney t-shirt) and buy another 100 or so for general sale. That way we don't get "stuck" with $500 of unused/unsold t-shirts.

As for the Lady Eagles in the Lady Bearcat Invitational, Coach Rosier indicated that he wanted to attend and we welcomed Chapin. If this is not in your (or your daughters' best interest or values) then simply don't attend -- you have that choice.

Any word on weather or not RNE will participate?

Chapindad: I've got to ask...isn't the real problem that you feel that the T-shirt fee should be bundled into the activity fee along with all other mandatory fees for playing soccer in Chapin?

This would cause your activity fees, if $50/player, to rise to $60/player if simply added on. This would be a 20% increase for these fees, which seems much less trivial in that context. This increase would then cause your coach in Chapin to make a harder decision as to whether to participate.

chapindad, in my neck of the woods we call that getting owned! nice try! here's a $0.01 for your thoughts!

Kevin,

You have given me something to think about.

Always Right,

Go back to the woods....

Later

Dad,

Dude chill out. It is ten bucks to help out a fellow soccer program. I bet you are the first to ***** and moan about the boys program at CHS getting better stuff than the girls.Well get your coach to run a "Program" and not a team and you would n't have to pay the $10. I would bet you ***** and moan about title nine. Well here is a chance to help support a local GIRLS soccer program and you complain b/c you have no CHOICE??? Sure you have a choice.....DON'T let your daughter participate in the tourney. That's a choice!! Man I cannot beleive you honestly put this up w/ what people in China deal with. What an arrogant outlook......OH what oppression....you HAVE to buy a $10 T-shirt....The constitution should be burned for that one.....Here is another choice for ya.....choose to QUIT posting so damn much and work a bit then the $10 wouldn't bother you so much!!!

Cheers mate and you wonder why people dislike girls soccer???

Shearer,
You have such an eloquent way with prose. You and Feno should really consider running against Dick and George W. in '08.

Shearer,

When you get through puberty. PM me and we can talk like adults.

Enjoy

2004 sucker,

how many times are you going to say this???

NOT FUNNY!!!! Nice try .....

Chapin Mom......Ok here is your PM........you and 2004 sucker should start your own soccer club charge nothing and win countless state titles...I mean you guys know how do EVERYTHING the right way.....so start the take over now!!!

I've got the perfect name for ya....

BEETCH SC......."Where the real b***** Play!!!!"

Cheers!!

'To waste one's terrible mind is a terrible waste of good ale.' ~Dan Quayle

" I invented the Mega Club Merger!" ~ 2004 Sucker

1. I hope your daughter doesn't read this message board. Your liking forking over 10 bucks so she can have a t-shirt from a tournament she played in to living in communist China could be detrimental to her childhood development.

2. You're probably the dad who sits on the sidelines at games and ponders deep pressing questions like "why are we here?", "why am I here?", or "why do I have to pay to be here?". Just sit on the sidelines like everyone else and yell "JUST KICK IT LADIES!!"

3. Shut up and play

quote:

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Originally posted by Shearer:
" I invented the Mega Club Merger!" ~ 2004 Sucker

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..oh snap.. HA!

As for the topic: I think Chapindad is bringing up a legit concern. Do I think it's a BIG deal..no.. but it is a valid topic..just something people don't like to talk about (especially if it's compared to communism or something extreme like that.. legit concern..bad form).