R4
Lexington 8-0
North Augusta 4-3
Irmo 4-3
South Aiken 4-4
Aiken 3-5
White Knoll 0-8
So many factors with Irmo and NA playing back to back, then SA vs Aiken, and finally Aiken vs NA.
R5
Dutch Fork 5-0
Spring Valley 2-3
Ridge View 1-3
Richland Northeast 0-2
R1
1. Hanna 9-0
2. Wren 7-2
3. Greenwood 5-4
4. ?
Westside and Easley go at it again next Wednesday for the fourth spot in the playoffs.
6. Laurens 0-9
R2
1. Dorman 11-0-0
2. Mauldin 8-3-0
3. Spartanburg 6-3-0
4. Byrnes 6-4-0
5. Boiling Springs 2-7-0
6. Gaffney 1-7-0
7. Hillcrest 0-10-0
R3
1. Fort Mill 11-0-0
2. Northwestern 9-3-0
3. Nation Ford 8-3-0
4. Clover 6-3-0
5. Lancaster 1-7-0
6. York 0-5-0
7. Rock Hill 0-7-0
8. South Pointe 0-7-0
R6
1. West Florence 5-0-0
2. Sumter 4-1-0
3. South Florence 0-2-0
4. Conway 0-3-0
5. Hartsville 0-3-0
R7
1. Wando 8-0-0
2. James Island 3-1-0
3. Berkeley 3-5-0
4. Stratford 2-3-0
5. Goose Creek 0-3-0
6. Orangeburg-Wilkinson 0-4-0
R8
1. Summerville 7-0-0
2. Fort Dorchester 5-2-0
3. West Ashley 4-2-0
4. Beaufort 2-5-0
5. Colleton County 2-5-0
6. Battery Creek 0-6-0
Ummmmm...wow. You must not sleep!
Dale, Craig has learned from you my friend. He is one with the data Matrix now! You have created a monster that cannot be destroyed!!!
Craig, I am impressed!
Also, it's a shame that some of these schools cannot report scores. Are we to believe that James Island has only played 4 region matches, or South Florence only two. In the information age, it would be nice if schools took the time to provide information.
That's like Westside only reporting their Lauren's scores and claiming to be 2-0 in the region. I think Hanna, Wren, and Greenwood would all be a bit miffed at such a gimmick.
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Also, it's a shame that some of these schools cannot report scores.
SO IF PLAYOFFS WERE HELD TODAY..FIRST ROUND LOWER STATE SHOULD LOOK LIKE THIS:
DUTCH FORK v BEAUFORT
FORT DORCHESTER v RIDGEVIEW
JAMES ISLAND v S. FLORENCE
SPRING VALLEY v WEST ASHLEY
SUMMERVILLE v RNE
SUMTER v BERKELEY
WANDO v CONWAY
WEST FLORENCE v STRATFORD
FIRST ROUND UPPER STATE SHOULD LOOK LIKE THIS:
DORMAN v CLOVER
FORT MILL v BYRNES
HANNA v SOUTH AIKEN
LEXINGTON v Region 1 # 4 H
MAULDIN v NATION FORD
N. AUGUSTA v GREENWOOD
NORTHWESTERN v SPARTANBURG
WREN v IRMO
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R7
1. Wando 8-0-0
2. James Island 3-1-0
3. Berkeley 3-5-0
4. Stratford 2-3-0
5. Goose Creek 0-3-0
6. Orangeburg-Wilkinson 0-4-0
Giving me a little too much credit, I fear, due to scores not reported...Stratford is actually 4-4-0 as of now while Berkeley is 4-5-0 with a serious not-playing-like-ourselves loss to Stratford on our record. Gotta try to get them back in the rematch next Tuesday!
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R2
1. Dorman 11-0-0
2. Mauldin 9-3-0
3. Spartanburg 6-4-0
4. Byrnes 6-4-0
5. Boiling Springs 2-7-0
6. Gaffney 1-7-0
7. Hillcrest 0-10-0
updated to include Mauldin's win over Sparkle City. If Mauldin beats Byrnes at home, then the above seeding is correct. If Byrnes beats Mauldin then there will be a three-way mess.
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R5
Dutch Fork 5-0
Spring Valley 2-3
Ridge View 1-3
Richland Northeast 0-2
This is probably the final order for R5 since SV holds a 1 goal aggregate lead on RV.
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R4
Lexington 8-0
North Augusta 4-3
Irmo 4-3
South Aiken 4-4
Aiken 3-5
White Knoll 0-8
This one is a mess. Here are the remaining games:
Irmo: Lexington last night (haven't seen a score) and N. Augusta TWICE
NA: Aiken and Irmo TWICE
SA: White Knoll and arch rivals
SA should win out and get to sit back while Irmo and NA duke it out.
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R3
1. Fort Mill 12-0-0
2. Northwestern 10-3-0
3. Nation Ford 8-4-0
4. Clover 6-3-0
5. Lancaster 1-8-0
6. York 0-5-0
7. Rock Hill 0-7-0
8. South Pointe 0-7-0
Updated to include last night's matches. BIG match tonight between Clover and Northwestern. This will be a winner take all match to determine which team gets the 2 seed and the right to play Byrnes, Spartanburg, or Mauldin. The loser will have to play Mauldin, Spartanburg, or Byrnes.
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R4
Lexington 8-0
North Augusta 4-3
Irmo 4-3
South Aiken 4-4
Aiken 3-5
White Knoll 0-8
This one is a mess. Here are the remaining games:
Irmo: Lexington last night (haven't seen a score) and N. Augusta TWICE
NA: Aiken and Irmo TWICE
SA: White Knoll and arch rivals
SA should win out and get to sit back while Irmo and NA duke it out.
Thanks for the jinx. Let me do you now. TLH should have an easy ticket to the upstate finals at least. They've been playing well lately and shouldn't stumble in any way, shape, or form
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R4
Lexington 9-0
North Augusta 4-3
Irmo 4-4
South Aiken 4-4
Aiken 3-5
White Knoll 0-8
Updated. Aiken vs NA tonight makes a big amount of change. Aiken loses and they'll need to beat SA as well as NA sweeping Irmo to have a shot at tie breakers. Aiken wins and it'll go like this provided SA defeats WK:
Lex 9-0
SA 5-4
Irmo/NA 4-4
Aiken 4-5
If Aiken beats SA and NA/Irmo split, then we've got 4 teams tied at 5-5 with the above situation. Joy. I had a dream that Hank said "We're just going to win them all and make it look easy."
I'll take your jinx and raise you one:
I think SA has the makeup and mentality to upset Dorman in the second round and advance AT LEAST 3 rounds.
Frick. Fine. TLH abuses Dorman this week en route to crushing random R4 team, and goes on to the SC game all b/c their coach is using a sweeper. Ha!
Boys, boys. You are about to be red carded.
I just hope it doesn't end up with you and I sitting in turn three in Darlington going "man, I could have sworn one of us would have made it past the 2nd round"
We would find a way to temporarily forget those sorrows
R3
1. Fort Mill 12-0-0
2. Clover 7-3-0
3. Northwestern 10-4-0
4. Nation Ford 8-4-0
5. Lancaster 1-8-0
6. York 0-5-0
7. Rock Hill 0-7-0
8. South Pointe 0-7-0
Updated to include last night's match between Clover and Northwestern
We're looking like:
NF vs Dorman
NW vs Mauldin
FM is looking towards S burg while
Clover has fun with Byrnes
Dale, let me see if I have this straight...
Region 4 tiebreakers are head to head, points for beating region teams (6 for #1, 5 for #2), and then non region record. If two tie for the fourth spot, a play in game is allowed, right?
That is one crazy tiebreak system! Not much incentive to play a hard non-conference schedule, but I digress.
Soooo, if SA beats Aiken and NA sweeps Irmo the order is
2. NA
3. SA
4. Irmo
If SA beats Aiken and Irmo sweeps NA then:
2. Irmo
3. SA
4. NA
If SA beats Aiken and Irmo/NA split then:
2. SA
3. NA
4. Irmo
If SA loses to Aiken and Irmo sweeps, SA goes third over NA on non region tie breaker. If they split, SA goes fourth losing tie breaker with Irmo. If NA sweeps then SA goes third.
Does that sound right?
Ron, is that correct? I think Aiken is still in if NA sweeps and they beat SA.
Clover may indeed have fun with Byrnes, one thing for sure. It's a very short drive for Clover.
I've got Byrnes by 2, but I say Clover has my vote for "Most attention given to team" come playoffs.
I think Clover played Byrnes this year already and did
well against them. Don't remember the score.
PS, Clover played N Western last night missing 3 starters for various reasons.
Now I recall thay was Dorman they played.
Tournaments and match play are much different. WE're all missing starters and we're all banged up and we've all got our ailments and proms and spring breaks. Time...
Have to agree with Dale on this one...EVERYBODY has injuries and countless other obstacles to deal with. That's why teams have coaches.
It was Dorman...a 1-1 tie without Rachel or Kelsey
It was a tournament. Look at Fort Mill and their Viking Cup. How indicative was that? Not very, that's how.
We shall see. You guys may be right but as I recall, all the teams were going full out. Didn't see anyone jogging and the coaches were not in the lounge chairs. There were no golf clubs on the field.
PS, you guys simply hold Ft.Mill in much higher status than I do. I'm telling you we had them by the xxxxx twice. But the did win the games.
Farkas,
Got learn how to close the deal....step on the throat, cut the head off of the demon. That's the step to the next level.
I think you can do it in the first round of the state playoffs.
hey fartkas,
you may be right that ft mill is not as good as they have been in the past but still very close.i think they beat clover 2 times.i have watched ft mill several times this year and they have been behind on a few of those occasions.they always seem to come back.that shows you the heart of the kids and the ability of the coach.if what you are saying about the 2 clover losses to ft mill is true then it seems your team has the opposite going on.the word i always used as a kid was "CHOKED".the question is whos fault is it when a team chokes? i bet your team got out coached. you also lost to the exspansion nation ford team.i guess half your team was hurt then also.you have a good group of girls in clover they have a good chance of winning the region the next 2 years so stop making excuses for their losses.it is starting to look bad.
Farkas: I hold Fort Mill in high status -- I'll tell you why. Over the years, what I've seen is that Fort Mill has a coach that every year gets those kids to play better with each game. Thus, Fort Mill gets stronger during the year and is usually a force in the playoffs. Secondly, while there are many excellent players over there, I think that senior Ashleigh Sheets is the cornerstone of that team this year -- and I think that the coach shifting her around on the field strategically combined with her lack of ego and willingness to do whatever it takes to help that team is one of the reasons that more than a few teams have thought that they had Fort Mill beaten before they got surprised.
None of this is meant to be critical of any other team, particularly Clover, who I haven't seen play. I'm sure that Clover is excellent. This is just to explain perhaps why there are a few of us who particularly respect Fort Mill -- especially in the playoffs.
did I make excuese? I think not. I gave F Mill credit for winning the games. (heck the haven't lost over here in 4 years) However, you guys all think FM is made of stainless steel because they've kicked butt in this region for a long time. All I'm saying is but the for 3 pks in the last two years, then Clover goes 3-0 against them instead of 0-3. Well, if that is an excuse it is also a fact and sometimes the FACTS are hard to swallow. I hate those facts but you Jimbo need to also accept them. Good luck to Ft. Mill. If they are healthy they should win the first game. But either there are bad as Clover or Clover is very close to being as good as they are. For the discerningly challenged, that is another fact.
It is always fun and games until someone says that high school girls choked. These are 13-17 year olds guys...as far as being outcoached..anyone can coach a group of girls handed to them on a silver platter and I don't even have a dog in the fight
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did I make excuese? I think not. I gave F Mill credit for winning the games. (heck the haven't lost over here in 4 years) However, you guys all think FM is made of stainless steel because they've kicked butt in this region for a long time. All I'm saying is but the for 3 pks in the last two years, then Clover goes 3-0 against them instead of 0-3. Well, if that is an excuse it is also a fact and sometimes the FACTS are hard to swallow. I hate those facts but you Jimbo need to also accept them. Good luck to Ft. Mill. If they are healthy they should win the first game. But either there are bad as Clover or Clover is very close to being as good as they are. For the discerningly challenged, that is another fact.
You lose well. Congrats.
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did I make excuese? I think not. I gave F Mill credit for winning the games. (heck the haven't lost over here in 4 years) However, you guys all think FM is made of stainless steel because they've kicked butt in this region for a long time. All I'm saying is but the for 3 pks in the last two years, then Clover goes 3-0 against them instead of 0-3. Well, if that is an excuse it is also a fact and sometimes the FACTS are hard to swallow. I hate those facts but you Jimbo need to also accept them. Good luck to Ft. Mill. If they are healthy they should win the first game. But either there are bad as Clover or Clover is very close to being as good as they are. For the discerningly challenged, that is another fact.
You lose well. Congrats.
Sarcastic comment of the year, Dale!!!! Now get off the computer and call me. I have to replace Martin by 2pm and I can't decide if David Ragan can play nice for 500 miles!
After yesterday, I'd pick Tony.
It's fantasy so he's too expensive!
went with the 6. What thread have we highjacked?
look in your rearview, baby! I'm coming like the 18!
If Montoya is 2nd, you know it's bull.
hey, it's talladega. Even Mickey Waldrip has won there.
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It is always fun and games until someone says that high school girls choked. These are 13-17 year olds guys...as far as being outcoached..anyone can coach a group of girls handed to them on a silver platter and I don't even have a dog in the fight
at what age is it ok to say someone choked? when they are 30.im not sure how many 13 or 14 or even 15 yr olds are on a varsity team.if they did not choke then what happened?from your statement they were not outcoached.i do not have a dog in this fight either but i have seen most of the teams in the region play.
Farkas,
Jimbo, huh? are we speaking of the person on this site or the coach at FM? You seem to have a beef with all of FM. Maybe you are the coach (or volunteer assistant) at Clover that has apparently been badly outcoached? ( Seeing as how you are so defensive) Maybe you could schedule yourself into the Viking Cup or FM Invitational. If you want respect, those 2 tournaments would give you some respect.
cid,
Take a chill pill. "Jimbo" was a reference back to the Lizard King.
Go easy on Dr. Farkas.
Don't worry, I'm not upset. I have no vested interest. I just think it's funny. How can you attack a program you have never beaten????
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Don't worry, I'm not upset. I have no vested interest. I just think it's funny. How can you attack a program you have never beaten????
"Farkas,
Jimbo, huh? are we speaking of the person on this site or the coach at FM? You seem to have a beef with all of FM. Maybe you are the coach (or volunteer assistant) at Clover that has apparently been badly outcoached? ( Seeing as how you are so defensive) Maybe you could schedule yourself into the Viking Cup or FM Invitational. If you want respect, those 2 tournaments would give you some respect. "
Dang man.....for someone with no vested interest this is the second time in the recent past you've jumped in on a Clover-FM thread with what could be perceived as negative comments about Clover?
I don't think anyone thinks Clover was outcoached. I think most people think Ashleigh Sheets is a fabulous player that Clover wasn't able to handle.
Both schools are well coached and are excellent teams. Good luck to both in the playoffs.
I have to agree with BD.... both teams are quality sides and well coached. Having played both, Region 2 should get ready for four quality matches.
I do wish posters would stop saying negative comments about both teams. I just had a battle with Clover with both teams having quality chances. Clover ended up with the win 1-0 and the better team that night. Good luck to Region 3, I know we will represent our region well.
And, Big Daddy, on multiple occasion, I have said that I believe Clover to be a quality side. I would have the same response to someone who was bashing Lex., or Irmo, or Wando, or Spartanburg, etc. Both teams are very good and could do well in the tournament. I simply am responding to farkas who believes that clover is "xxxxx times better" then FM. I just don't think you have legs to stand on when you haven't beaten a team. I wish both sides good luck as Region 2 is strong from top to bottom.
cid,
I have to agree with Daddy and Cantona. No coaching mistake on the part of Clover, but I do give the FM coach credit for never letting his team quit or think they were out of it.
Bottom line.....Ashleigh Sheets put the Lady Jackets on her back and Lexi Wilden kept her nerve and finished.
Next season Clover will have the best senior in Region 3 4A and that could be the difference in 2009.
Let me say it this way"
Here's the scoop for 2008, Spartanburg is is better than Dorman. PERIOD.
And because I'm assuming you guys know what you're talking about, I predicting that Dorman goes out in game 1 of the tourney, again only if they aren't healthy. Spartanburg is healthy however. As you've noted, they reside in a super weak group with only Dorman to play as a full challenge. They did well in the two tourneys they played in.
If I said this, I would get jumped on. Replace Dorman with FM and Spart. with Clover and that is exactly what Farkas said. Both sides are good. Both sides are dangerous.
I totally agree with you Cid. Until you beat a team.....be still.
Clover's day is coming.....but for now FM remains the daddy up in these parts.
Looks like everyone is a coach and perhaps in need of some Prep H.
Will do a Prep H cost analysis and looks for sales as it appears we need a large supply. Anyone know if it comes in the Jumbo size?
Try it orally and let me know the results
That's funny right there, I don't care who ya are!!
Yeaaaaah, buddy