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>> [Big Daddy] My experience tells me that older kids subsidize younger kids.<<

Here's what my experience tells me. If you're operating in a club with a substantial debt load due to non-municipal fields or if you're operating in a club which is paying non-trivial field expenses to a municipality, then if you allocate that debt/expense on a per-player basis then select tends to subsidize recreation.

If your fields are "free" (i.e., your neighbors and you pay for them in property tax), then it depends entirely upon the fee structure of the club.

>> [futbol(soccer)] This cannot be associated with players as I understood this was part of the registration.<<

I'm pretty sure that this is the total insurance bill, the majority of which is the catastrophic health insurance for children. Most of the registration costs are USYSA per-player dues (as per my, admittedly limited, understanding).

>> [Big Daddy] Chico....are you up for it? Pick either Georgia or NC.<<

I'll take a cursory look, but I don't think it's promising. The SCYSA has done what I think is a better than normal job of divulging financials beyond that normally found on a Form 990.

>> [Big Daddy] How can they lose money? How can any organization other than the government spend more than their revenue?<<

They have relatively large cash reserves. Their cash position on May 31, 2005 was $303,426; down from $328,656 in 2004 and down from $335,515 in 2003.

what has happend to their sponsorship

Dadgum, Chico...you are da man. Questions for you:

1. Where the heck would SCYSA have gotten so much cash from?

2. Its one thing to pull 1 or 2K per year out to balance the budget, but $30K? About 4% of total spending is variance?

3. Admin spending of almost 20% ($130K) seems pretty rich.

4. Nearly $ .25 of every $1 spent is either deficit spending or administration related?

Soccer For Fun,

Great point! The entire purpose of SC ODP is for players to make Region Pool and/or higher. You pay your fees, your child is held over, then they tell you, "Oh, sorry....yes, you're child has done a great job - exactly what we wanted him/her to do - but you're gonna have to figure out some other way to get him/her home. Thanks for all the hard work!"

If they are held over, why can't they ride back with an older group? Haven't run into it (yet), but you just never know.

As an FYI...my kid was held over for the region pool last year and rode back with an older group...but that was probably the exception.

If you look at the schedule all of the older teams are coming back on the same day. Do you expect them to send the bus back to get them. I could see them paying for a bus ticket back but would you want your child to ride on the bus by themselves. Maybe they could pay our gas to go get them and our time off of work.

They don't help the State teams get to Region playoffs. Seems like they could help.

The effects of 9/11 hurt a lot of insurance companies and scared the rest. I was the president of a condo association at the time of 9/11 and our insurance went from $35,000 a year to $90,000 without filing a single claim. Insurance is what it is and is usually shopped by an agent working for you to find the best price....