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Coach Chass #106192 06/04/08 11:20 PM
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Maybe I should have said adjustments not bad habits. Anyway, probally the number one adjustment would be speed of play.

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hmmmmmmm......

What if the HS coach is ALSO the club coach..... how long does it take the club to break the coach of his bad habits.....?

Then, come next spring... how long does it take the HS coach to break the players of bad habits picked up during club season.......

Very Chicken and Egg if you ask me.......

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is that a joke coach? im sure it is.

hey sweet,im in circuit city




MA - Why would that be a joke? There are lots of high school coaches that coach some of their players in club. Or are you saying that club players don't ever pick up bad habits before they come back to their hs team? Things like "I'm better than you, because I play club" and other prima donna syndromes. It happened on my girls team several times. One time it was her! One of those life lessons WE had to learn.




i do not mean the "im better than you attitude".i also understand that some school coaches are club coaches also but with school soccer there are all different levels of skilled players even on the best of teams.sometimes a player has to take on more at the school level.the one major bad habit i see with school players going back to club is holding the ball to long.what bad habits will a club player bring to a school team? moving the ball!!
i will agree on the attitude part but in reverse.alot of high school players get back to the club year thinking i am great because i scored 1000 goals in high school this year.when mine played school ball im sure it was different than where ever you are.not much school soccer where we are.
i am reading and answering these as i go so something may change before i get to the end of the thread.

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maybe i should put it this way.

i think there is a difference from school to school all over the state.
some school teams are coached and play like club teams.meaning very good.there are schools that may only have one or two club players or even soccer players on the whole team.these few can pick up "not so good habits" like having to hold the ball to long.
you also have players on good school teams that pick up the same "not so good habits" by playing these same bad teams.

i hope this came out right.im trying not to make anyone mad and just give my opinion in a nice way.

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What happens when your high school coach is better than your club coach?

How about when your club team is not as good as your high school team?


Kids play sports because they find it fun. Eliminate the fun and soon you eliminate the kid.
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my first reply would be "find a new club" but im in my nice mode.you have the good lords blessing of having a great school coach. it still does not stop the fact that when you play bad teams you can pick up bad habits.

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I'm not talking specifically about be, and I'm not referring to Fort Mill.

How about Wando?

How many of those girls play for a club coach as good as Coach Champ? I'm sure that not all of them play on a club team that's as good as their high school team.


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im really not sure how you compare high school and club.at club you are all basically the same age.in high school you could have a four year span in age.i see why wando is considered good but as far as the rest of the state what is your critirea for a high school team to be good or better than a club team.is it to be like wando and win the state 2 years in a row or a team that just walks through a easy schedule against lesser teams.

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WOW.... a little pot stirring went a long way.....

fyi-- nope! Not a joke. I coach both, enjoy the difference and personally don’t think you can qualify or quantify the difference between the two in any way that is meaningful enough to sway most people from any entrenched opinions about the two.

Are there differences between HS and club? Yes, oh golly yes

Is it fun to debate and argue these differences? Yep again, even humorous sometimes.

Let the good times roll and just enjoy the game for what it is- wherever it is. After you watch some of the EuroCup games this weekend go catch a game of U-6 and let me know which one leaves you with the bigger smile.

tk


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Marcus,

Are there girls on the Wando High School varsity team, that are sophomores, and perhaps played on a U-16 Challenge or Classic team? Could it be possible that the Wando girls varsity team is better than the U-16 club team those girls played on?

The title is "Bad Habits".....like playing on the varsity HS team at Wando is going to hurt their club performance this upcoming club season????

Nonsense.


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Marcus,

Are there girls on the Wando High School varsity team, that are sophomores, and perhaps played on a U-16 Challenge or Classic team? Could it be possible that the Wando girls varsity team is better than the U-16 club team those girls played on?

The title is "Bad Habits".....like playing on the varsity HS team at Wando is going to hurt their club performance this upcoming club season????

Nonsense.




im not sure where i said playing at wando was going to hurt these girls.i think you are the one that got wando into this thread.
i still think that no matter how good your high school team or coach is you can still pick up habits like holding the ball too long and trying to dribble through 11 players.
as for wando being better than a u-16 classic or challenge team.im sure they are better than u-17 and 18 teams also.you could take the best players at each age, put them together on any high school team and beat any club team.as the year went on they would start doing things that they can not do in club.seems that most on here defending school soccer(if defending is the right word)play or coach or watch good teams with good coaches.maybe it should read picking up bad habits from bad school programs.
Hurst if you do not think you can pick up bad habits from high school then either i do not know you like i thought or i did not know how big those blinders are about high school soccer you have on.

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