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Hard Headed #106202 06/05/08 12:52 PM
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If I may read a little into Hurst (apologies if I misread), I think the point is that high school doesn't always equal bad habits and club doesn't always equal good habits. You can't just automatically assume that the quality of one is going to be better or worse than the quality of the other just by category alone. (Well, you CAN assume that, but you know how that word "assume" breaks down...) There are varying levels of high school programs and coaches just like there are varying levels of club programs and coaches; I think the argument is against stereotyping, not whether or not bad habits can be picked up one place or another.


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Coach Chass #106203 06/05/08 01:13 PM
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i can agree with what you said coach. like i stated in my reply to hurst,maybe it should read picking up bad habits from bad programs or not the better programs.

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That's a little better, Marcus. I don't subscribe to the theory that ALL club teams (or club programs) are better than all high school programs.

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If an inexperienced high school coach is preaching to his R3PL center defender, "When in doubt, kick it out!", I doubt she is going to return to her CESA Premier or CUFC Elite team and suddenly start giving away free corner kicks! Give these players a little credit. I think yhey are aware of what each coach requires and they are probably smart enough to "throw the switch".


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i give the club players credit that they will not go back and play stupid but i see to many picking up the habit of holding the ball to long.when you play against a team of kids that has never played soccer before you tend to hold the ball just a little to long or get fancy sometimes.it does not take a good player long to break that habit.

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Bad habits very good topic. It is interesting where and how these things surface, or even how they are percieved.

As in Central D "kick it out". Don't think, don't look just act this way always. It's the absolutes that kids deal with in the early developmental years. When we as coaches deal with absolutes (ie: never dribble in your 18) we see it as something to teach and it sticks, but it also restricts thinking.

I think most coaches agree on maybe 80% of soccer, it's that 20% that really seperate us. This is where we divide in logic, players developing and programs prospering.

Here is a bad habit that I have/had. I was showing my girls some 1 v 1 moves. Everyone had a ball and I used a few trash cans (the same one that was hurled into) for them to dribble around. I showed the girls how to approach and dip shoulder and explode around the defender. I said "Make your move then dribble around the can". I was watching 18 players and 5 cans, one young lady took me to my word and was dribbling "around" the can. My back was turned so I didn't see her. I think she made 100 revolutions till she turned white and got wozzy.

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