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Valid points, but the prospect of coordinating games during the month of June is a problem. Teams preparing for Regional competition are and should be focused on that. ODP is secondary to the responsibility those players have at that time to their club teams.
Having said that, we (92 Boys) have found a happy medium by supplementing the club practices during May and June with odp practices. This model resulted in well attended training sessions every Sunday for this age group.
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Manchester, congrats on your age group having a great run!!!!
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Thanks Big Daddy. It sounds like they're enjoying it. The word is they've qualified for Nationals and seven players have been named for the pool game tonight.
Interestingly, we're missing two more "Pool Caliber" players who had to cancel at the last minute. One due to the death of his grandmother and another for personal health reasons. I'm told the boys are keeping these two teammates updated on their progress. A great group of kids and our prayers go out to their teammate who lost his grandmother.
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First for SC ODP, you would need to define what success is- holdovers, team success in advancing to ODP Nationals or player improvement. If its holdovers- that one is tricky to address due to the dynamics of the selection process. SC 92G beat Mississippi 3-2 while mostly resting a couple of players for pool games. Mississippi has 4 holdovers, SC 1. One of the NC holdovers didn’t start for her club team- behind other NC ODP players that did not get heldover. So it would be hard to design a system to make holdovers happen. Team successes are easier to address with more practices and training. The luck of the draw with your selected opponent in advancement games will often determine that potential success as well. SC ODP could opt for more training and practice but the costs would rise, along with the conflicts with high school soccer. Additional training sessions through the spring would mean high school players would be training almost every day. Injuries would rise and effectiveness would decrease. Additional summer training would conflict with regional preparation, camps, etc. Player improvement is already happening by training sessions, playing with and against top players in highly competitive games, etc. Additional training sessions training sessions would help, with the same problems outlined above.
SC ODP seems to have success in relation to states of similar size. Texas, GA, Florida and NC have much bigger pools and therefore it will always be tough to compete. The question is- what exactly would define success for SC ODP?
from what i am told mississippi only has 1 hold over.
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Good structure that I think some of the teams already follow. I think the June trainings could be potentially a problem, though important for the teams. I think it would be good to have a weekend of games bewteen the SC ODP teams and the SC teams that are playing in regionals. This would help both teams prepare for their competitions and have SC soccer presnted in the best terms in both competitions. There would be significant SC crossovers between these teams so you might have to bring in NC or GA teams that are also particpating in regionals. This may be where SCYSA could help the process.
If the holdovers/region team numbers is the goal, having the teams play better together will enhance the possibility of that happening. However, there would also have to be a "different" behind the scenes campaign for SC players. Florida has way more region holdovers than their team success would indicate. The FL ODP group must have effective region strategies to place their players. If having region holdovers/region team members is the goal for SC ODP, then a better "marketing" campaign would need to be designed/implemented.
what do you mean by a "different" behind the scenes campaign for sc players.
it seems if sc had better results as a team then more players may be heldover.but it also looks from what you are saying is that fla is not having good results but are still getting the hold overs.
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Club practice generally starts August 1.
If all this advanced team ODP training takes place in June/July, (and those players whose teams have qualified for regionals are doing double-duty), then when do these players REST?
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Club practice generally starts August 1.
If all this advanced team ODP training takes place in June/July, (and those players whose teams have qualified for regionals are doing double-duty), then when do these players REST?
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Happy to report the defeat of GA ODP 92 Boys in Game 3. This opponent has 15 pool player selections and at least 2 region team players. Congratulations to the boys and ALL of their coaches (ODP, Club and HS) on a job well done. 9 Goals scored and 1 goal given up in three games. Looking forward to Nationals in January and hopefully some holdovers.
7-11-08
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Game 3: 0-1 at Halftime
Final: 2-1
Goals: Lunceford, Lunceford
Assists: Tuggle, 2nd not recorded yet
Opponent: Georgia
Pool Game: 11 Selected from 7-10
The makeup pool game has been cancelled . . . I guess because this is the same group that would be playing each other.
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Sorry to hear about the huge change in success between this year and last for the '91 girls. Any other observations you and or the team have regarding why this occurred would be helpful to know.
In January the '91 team finished 4th in the Region III ODP championships in Houston and earned the team as well as the state a higher level of respect than is generally afforded to SC. However, of that team at least 8, for a variety of reasons, did not participate in Alabama. While this had an obvious impact on the team going to Alabama (most of the 8 were starters in Houston), the lack of numbers resulting in keepers playing field positions and the team actually finishing the first game a player down may have had more to do with at least a couple of the 8 players not notifying SCYSA that they would not be attending until the first day of camp.
The '91 team that played in Alabama should be commended for its performance. It left everything it had on the fields, placed players in the pool games, and maintained its focus on those who did attend rather than those who did not. The effort did not go unnoticed by the regional staff.
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Considering the circumstances, they did well. Those girls need to go to work on getting all of the former players back out. It's a shame such talent apparently decided not to push for even more success.
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