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Coach Chass #107734 08/23/08 02:55 PM
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Good comment coach..One thing I will add is as you move up the competitive ladder..Loyalty takes a back seat to being able to produce on the field..

coldhardtruth #107735 08/23/08 03:14 PM
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This is very true, and it can work both ways, depending on the situation. In some cases, loyalty may put players at odds with placing themselves in the most challenging and competitive situations. On the other hand, loyalty and commitment to a team and the other people who make it up can help to bring out the best in players; when they know the system and the expectations and actually care about the success of everyone involved, it often helps them to tap into that extra ounce of effort that can make a significant positive difference in how they perform on the field. "Heart" is one of those intangibles that it's almost impossible to quantify or predict, but it can have visible effects on player and team success.


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Loyalty is part of teamwork...something not stressed at MPSC.
To be successful you need teamwork, loyalty is a big part of team trust. Teamwork takes time and effort from all. You cannot just throw 13-14 kids together and expect them to play as a team. Which is what is going on at MPSC. U-11 boys and U-13 boys as examples right now.

arsenal2 #107737 08/23/08 03:23 PM
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Good point, a2; individual skill is of course important, but a group of players tossed together will simply be a collection of individual abilities, while a true team will always be greater than the sum of its parts.


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Coach Chass #107738 08/25/08 01:40 AM
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I have been out of soccer for 4 years so I am not going to say what is right or wrong about MPSC but I also find it amusing how many people from outside the organization know some much about it.
It would be the same as me saying the problem with Bridge is their DOC, and since I have never had a kid play for them I have absolutely know idea.

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Swimmer,

Just a thought here. Maybe some of these people discussing these issues have children playing at MPSC.

Fireant #107740 08/25/08 03:39 PM
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Many in the soccer community, parents and coaches, are pleased with Jeremy's removal and were hoping to see others removed with him. Did Matt P. get removed also? Again, such a big club with very few quality results compared to other clubs of the same size.

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Bigsoccerballs....Matt P. did not get removed. I am assuming your reference to "others" means him ?

Most I have spoken to over the last few days concur wholeheartedly with you.

Timing was bad....is only negative I've heard.

arsenal2 #107742 08/25/08 08:36 PM
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This is the link to the club website with the new positions and people. Matt is still with the club as Academy DoC and Kian Brownlee was promoted to Select DoC.

http://mpsoccer.com/OurClub.htm

It'll be interesting to see where the club goes in the next few years, whether there will be more changes and this is only temporary or whatever. I just hope they'll adopt a better attitude than "skills, skills, skills. We want an American Ronaldinho and you can always learn to pass later." Cos number one, Ronaldinho didn't become Ronaldinho because they did skills in practice; he became Ronaldinho because he spent every moment outside of practice taking what he'd learned and working it and adapting it. And number two, anyone who says you can learn to pass later has never coached girls...I grew up with people who STILL hadn't learned that passing = good by the age of 16, on a Premier League team.


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adidaskitten86 #107743 08/25/08 10:14 PM
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I hear ya,Kitten..Very good comment..The other thing that to much skill and less teamwork causes is the ball hog later on who hurts the team because they don't know when to give up the ball and sometimes they never get it and end up hurting the team more than contributing to the team. I have not met a player yet that can dribble past the whole team

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