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Re: State Cup Pairings
Fireant #111076 12/08/08 08:55 PM
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They did make some personnel changes over the season..I guess we will have to wait to see if the changes will move them in the right direction
Re: State Cup Pairings
coldhardtruth #111077 12/08/08 09:01 PM
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Coach P,

Saw where you modified the data, but what about the other question about the trends that you see?

Fireant,

It's easy to point at the current state of the MPSC results in the older age groups as shameful, however, what I think the data shows is the conscious decision made by MPSC a couple of years ago to focus on the younger age groups, i.e. the academy program, at the expense of the older age groups where the pressure was to combine with Bridge, or others. As I said before, only time would tell if that was a good thing, and I think the age groups affected will be more visible in the Spring cup. If the trend continues, then yes MPSC made a mistake, but if it turns around, then it could be seen as a good decision.
Re: State Cup Pairings
Fireant #111078 12/08/08 11:18 PM
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I heard that in the U18G bracket that Coast FA forfeited Saturday afternoon. Is this true and are any consequences for the team/club for forfeiting a state cup game?

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Re: State Cup Pairings
chelseafan5 #111079 12/08/08 11:50 PM
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do not know it's true..but if they were a no show..It costs them their bond..which I think is 200 dollars
Re: State Cup Pairings
coldhardtruth #111080 12/09/08 01:04 AM
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If all they lose is a $200 bond, that's not much of a punishment.

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Re: State Cup Pairings
chelseafan5 #111081 12/09/08 01:18 AM
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Scores that suprised me or games I would have liked to have seen---

16B Bridge 2 Coast 1---OT to PKs with a red card thrown in the mix? Sounds like fun!

17B CESA P 1 Lex 0---Great effort by Lexington.

17B DISA 3 MPSC 2---think these guys know each others tricks?

18B DISA 2 CUFC 1 --heard CUFC got an early red card and played a man down most of match--disappointing result for the CUFC boys.

Any reports on these games?
Re: State Cup Pairings
Bear #111082 12/09/08 01:44 AM
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Coach P,Saw where you modified the data, but what about the other question about the trends that you see?



Bear, sorry, I was pressed for time this afternoon and only got to make the correction before I had to leave the computer. When I said the trends are interesting, this was just an observance and not any criticism or judgement of any club or person. But here are some of the things I saw:

- There seems to be a trend towards the "big two" clubs whereas, in 2006, many referred to the "big three".
- CESA continues to dominate but the gap between 1st and 2nd has narrowed just a little each of the past 2 years.
- The top 5 clubs seem to consistently take 25-26 of the 32 total spots while, with a couple of 1-team exceptions, the other spots seem to vary from year-to-year among another 10 or so clubs. The exceptions are teams that are aging out this year but have made the Final Four each of the past 3 years (DSC 90B and SC Bulls/NASC 90G).
- Clubs in the Midstate have made gains in the number of Final Four spots. Here is the breakdown (again, assuming I haven't made another error):

District--Fall 2006--Fall 2007--Fall 2008
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Piedmont--15--15--13
Midstate--9--12--13
Coastal--8--5--6
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For reference, the list of clubs in each SCYSA District can be found here .
Re: State Cup Pairings
socdad #111083 12/09/08 01:47 AM
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17B CESA 1 vs Lexington 0, Lexington really only had one chance that could have been a pk, but ended up being inches outside according to the ref. CESA scored of a long throw-in within the first couple of minutes. Tough conditions due to cold weather and some very good gk from Lex. that kept them in a game but overall CESA was way too fast and dominated the play. Michael Salinas was by far the best player for Lexington.

18B CUFC got an early red card and played very good game. CUFC keeper saved 2 pk's.
Re: State Cup Pairings
chelseafan5 #111084 12/09/08 02:13 AM
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If all they lose is a $200 bond, that's not much of a punishment.



From the SCSCL application agreement:

"A bond fee ($500) and a registration fee of ($350.00) are required to be mailed ..."

"I understand and agree that my team will continue play in the SCSCL and SCSCL State Cup Championship until we have been eliminated. Failure to continue to play will result in the forfeit of team bond and the suspension of the coach for one year from SCYSA"
Re: State Cup Pairings
Coach P #111085 12/09/08 02:03 PM
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Coach P,

Thanks. This time of year people tend to lose some objectivity, and I was just curious about your thoughts. I tend to agree with most of your observations.
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