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1. DF
2. Irmo
3. NA
4. Aiken
5. Lexington
6. White Knoll
7. RNE
8. OW

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how about we give you spring valley,blythwood and ridgeview and we take your 6,7 and 8

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I know Lexington got whacked fairly hard at graduation in June.........but 5th!

Lexington NOT in the state play-offs in 2009?

I'll believe that when I see it. Lexington will be battle-tested and ready come May. Who would the 4th seed in this region play in the first-round of the state play-offs?


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Lexington NOT in the state play-offs in 2009?



Remember, Region 5 gets 5 playoff spots. They could finish 5th and still be in the playoffs.

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Awwwww....that's cheating!


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Who would the 4th seed in this region play in the first-round of the state play-offs?



The 4th seed from region 5 plays the 1st seed from region 8 (Summerville?).

The brackets are on page 58 of the AAAA Handbook.

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Region 5 4A will apparantly get 5 teams in the playoffs in 09, but I agree, 5th is too far for Lexington to plummet.

1.) Aiken 12-4 (Ron is crafty and he is due, 'nuff said)
2.) North Augusta 11-5
3.) Lexington 11-5
4.) Dutch Fork 11-5
5.) Irmo 10-6
6.) White Knoll 4-12
7.) RNE 2-14
8.) OW 0-16

I really do believe that tie breakers will determine seeding in this region for 2-3 of the top 5 spots, much like it came into play in Region IV-AAAA last year.

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Region 5 4A will apparantly get 5 teams in the playoffs in 09, but I agree, 5th is too far for Lexington to plummet.

1.) Aiken 12-4 (Ron is crafty and he is due, 'nuff said)
2.) North Augusta 11-5
3.) Lexington 11-5
4.) Dutch Fork 11-5
5.) Irmo 10-6
6.) White Knoll 4-12
7.) RNE 2-14
8.) OW 0-16

I really do believe that tie breakers will determine seeding in this region for 2-3 of the top 5 spots, much like it came into play in Region IV-AAAA last year.




I'm amazed at your pick for Dutch Fork to finish 4th. With all their returning experienced R3PL players, they are the team to beat in Region 5 as far as I'm concerned. The only way they will finish 4th is through some major disaster.

Also, what are the records you list? Overall regular season? These teams will play 14 region games in the regular season.

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Aiken 14-2

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I looked at it, but didn't scrutinize it.

Which region in the lower-state will not get a 4th place team into the play-offs? If Region 5 gets five, then somebody is only getting three, correct?


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I looked at it, but didn't scrutinize it.

Which region in the lower-state will not get a 4th place team into the play-offs? If Region 5 gets five, then somebody is only getting three, correct?



Here is a note from the bottom of the brackets page:

Regions VII or Region VIII 4th place will advance to the play-offs and be placed appropriately (to be determined by those two regions). Region V 5th place will advance to the play-offs and be placed appropriately.

So Regions 7 and 8 will somehow decide which of their 4th place teams advance.

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One interesting thing is that the 1st and 5th seeds from Region 5 could meet in the first round of the playoffs. In girls tennis where the brackets are similiar to soccer, Lexington and N. Augusta met in the first round.

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Peabody,
The records were region only, I think we all know teams of this caliber will play more than 16 games. I have seen DF's Region III Players and I have seen Ron when he is excited. The two cancel each other out.

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Coach Fryland informed me last year that this region would get 5 spots. I called his bluff, but he supported it. Check an older post under the girls thread and you should find it. One of the lower state regions only has 5 teams and only 3 will make it, was his response.

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Region 7 OR Region 8 fourth place team will NOT advance.

That'll go over like a lead balloon. I do think it's a correct decision in this case. No way the 4th place team in either of these regions should be better than the 5th place team from Region 5.


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The records were region only, I think we all know teams of this caliber will play more than 16 games.



Only 14 Region games. Home/Away against 7 opponents.

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Leave it to a bespectacled genius dog to point out my mathematical foibles !

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Region 3 4A had eight teams in their region last year.

Why didn't York, Lancaster, Rock Hill or South Pointe get a shot at a 5th seed state play-off opportunity?


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Hurst,

None of those teams had the opportunity to make the playoffs as a 5th seed because all other 4A Regions in the Upper State had at least 6 Girls Soccer Teams.

Region 5 will get a 5th spot bc two of the regions in the Lower State (7 and 8) only have 5 schools that field girls soccer teams.

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Actually, we only have 5 schools in Regions 7 and 8, period. Not entirely sure of the rationale, but it definitely complicates things. Seems a little "off" that one region of 5 will send 4 teams, but the other region of 5 can only send 3...then again, it's equally unfair to have a region of 8 that only sends 4 teams and leaves 4 out. The folks who do region alignments have definitely done an outstanding job at the prime directive of management: take something simple and complicate it.


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I definitely would not underestimate White Knoll. Probably their best three players missed most of last season with injuries. These three should be returning and, if they stay healthy, some very talented freshmen may help them contend for a playoff spot. If they should sneak into the playoffs, it would be their first playoff appearance since 2002 when they lost in the AAA quarterfinals to the eventual state champion, Dreher.

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I agree WK will be much improved. In there second match last year they only lost 1-0 to Lexington. I was at the match and Lexington basically fielded the team that will take the field this season. They had to bring on kira Campbell in the last 10 minutes to decide the match.

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I think that DF is definitely the team to beat. They have won 3 region championships in a row (2006 didn't count only because a rule violation the Saturday before the official first day of practice). We look forward to the competition in the new Region alignment!!!

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I still say Aiken High is alphabetically head and shoulders above every team in that region!!! When the initial region standings come out on scsoccer.com, before actual play has begun, you just click that link to Region V-AAAA and see who is in first place - AIKEN HIGH! If there's one thing Aiken High ALWAYS does well, it's starting the season in the catbird seat.

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Great prediction Ryan! And I'll go out on a limb and predict that, "when the initial region standings come out on scsoccer.com, before actual play has begun," Dutch Fork will be in 2nd place.

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ScottW I think the key to DF this year will be if they keep their best 11 out there and let them play. I saw them a couple of times last year in big games and they made wholesale substituions regardless of the game situation


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The Region 5-AAAA race should be very exciting to watch this year. Five of the eight teams are being mentioned in other threads about rankings. Will one team dominate or will they all end up with at least two or three region losses after beating each other up?

This may not mean anything for 2009, but here are their records against each other in 2008:

Lexington 9-0
N. Augusta 5-3
Dutch Fork 3-2
Irmo 5-5
Aiken 3-5
RNE 0-2
White Knoll 0-8
OW 0-0

Lexington beat DF once and won twice each against Irmo, Aiken, NA, and WK
N. Augusta lost twice to Lexington, split with Irmo, and won twice each against Aiken and WK.
Dutch Fork split with Irmo, lost to Lexington, and beat RNE twice

One would think there would be some different results in 2009 among the first three teams above. From what I understand, Lexington lost about 10 to graduation while NA & DF lost only one or two each. The Silver Foxes are returning a ton of Premier League experienced players including their goalkeeper who missed much of the 2008 season with a knee injury. So these first three could possibly be reversed in order in 2009 while Aiken or Irmo could could figure into the top three mix as well.

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I agree WK will be much improved. In there second match last year they only lost 1-0 to Lexington. I was at the match and Lexington basically fielded the team that will take the field this season. They had to bring on kira Campbell in the last 10 minutes to decide the match.




It may take Lexington a few games to get used to playing without Kira, but I would not count them out. DF has the most back and should be the favorite, but I noticed the comment about a couple of DF girls going to Irmo???

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It may take Lexington a few games to get used to playing without Kira, but I would not count them out.



In addition to getting used to playing without Campbell, they also have to get used to playing without Johns, Marshall, Adams, Rutland, Billesbach, Hall, Golay, etc.

But I agree that you can't count Lexington out with the talent pool they have to draw from. They have Wyrick (R3PL) returning along with Ball and several other players from the LCSC U18 team that was a semi-finalist in the Challenge Cup.

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Peabody: What's Irmo got this year. Do they have a keeper? I know about the big injury


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Of course nothing is definite until tryouts, but last year's 2nd varsity keeper and JV keeper should both be back and eligible for varsity.

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Anyone know what the Region 5 tiebreaker is?


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I don't know but I think each region's are different. Why is this?


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From the Boys & Girls Soccer Regulations section on page 53 of the AAAA Handbook:

II. STATE PLAY-OFF
A. 32 teams will qualify for the State Play-offs. The top four from each region will qualify.
B. Each region will be responsible for determining the method for assigning play-off positions in the event that teams are tied.
C. It is the region coordinators responsibility to forward this information to the High School League by 9:00 am on May 8, 2009 for girls and boys.

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