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#111577 12/21/08 05:36 PM
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What will the rankings for 3A look like this year? Who will be the teams competeing for state at the end of the year?

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Eastside and Riverside should fight it out for the Upstate title. I don't know what the lower state has to offer this year, most likely Chapin or one of the teams from the beach.

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My guess would be Socastee.

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Chapin is in the upper state now, with their region change.


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I thought that Riverside lost a substantial amount of their players this year. Weren't thay all seniors?

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Riverside lost 10 seniors but also had 5 freshman on the team. They will be decent.

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How are Greenville Mann and Chapin looking this year?

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Chapin graduated 11 or 12 last year. There are a couple very strong seniors this year and the junior an sophmore classes are pretty strong. Hiller has a lot of talent to work with, they should do pretty well.


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South Aiken recently dropped down to 3A. they could make some noise in the lowerstate this season. Then again Socastee looks pretty strong

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Chapin is essentially the Irmo of the 80s/90s with their demographics and talent pool. They'll be strong until the 2020s IMO! I agree to watch out for South Aiken too! This area has produced good teams before (2005) and this is another good crowd coming through.

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Not entirely a new thought though!

Issue #21.52 :: 12/24/2008 - 12/30/2008
Is Chapin the New Irmo?

Population, Other Changes Point to Shift

BY AL DOZIER

Is Chapin the new Irmo?

What’s happening about 7 miles up Interstate 26 from Irmo is similar to what happened a couple of decades ago as people moved into new neighborhoods in Irmo along Broad River Road.

It’s a good model.

Irmo is a landmark suburb of Columbia. It is home to Irmo High School, a link to the Lake Murray dam and waterfront homes.

It’s busy.

Columbiana Mall is much closer to Irmo than downtown Columbia. Traffic jams are the norm on weekends in the Harbison area.

Irmo has great schools that often lead the state in test scores.

It is the home of the Okra Strut, a festival that attracts about 50,000 people each year. In 2007, Money magazine named Irmo the country’s 12th most affordable town.

But some believe that Irmo is getting old, especially when considering the town’s school attendance figures.

Lexington-Richland School District 5 officials say student enrollment is declining in Irmo schools. The district’s enrollment growth is occurring in the Dutch Fork-Chapin area where new schools are in the works after voters approved a $143.5 million bond referendum in the Nov. 4 elections.

Irmo-area school enrollment is down from last year by 286 students. By contrast, Chapin-area attendance is up by 61 students and the Dutch Fork attendance area has grown by 72 students.

Planners say Irmo will experience modest growth during the next five years, reaching a population of about 12,000, an addition of some 300 residents from the 2007 count of 11,613.

But the makeup of the population is changing.

Many young families that moved into the community in the 1980s and ‘90s had children who have grown up and moved on. The average household size was a little more than three in 1990, but is expected to drop to 2.7 by 2012.

And there will be a lot more seniors in Irmo.

The town’s elderly population (65 and older) increased by 90 percent from 1990 to 2000 and that trend is expected to continue, according to a report by the Central Midlands Council of Governments. The elderly, who made up 2 percent to 5 percent of the population in the 1990s, will account for more than 7 percent in 2012.

Evidencing that demographic shift: Many of Irmo’s new residential developments in recent years have been condos and patio homes that appeal to empty nesters, according to Town Administrator John Hanson. He says Irmo has a lot to offer senior citizens: moderately priced housing, no property taxes and all of the services they need.

“We haven’t taken it up with [Town] Council but marketing for senior citizens might be a good idea,” Hanson says.

Chapin is just minutes away from Irmo. It’s not nearly the size of Irmo, with a population of not quite 900. But since 2000 the Chapin population has grown by a whopping 39 percent.

Lauran Howell, vice president of the Chapin Chamber of Commerce, says the town has some appealing draws. “Families come here for the schools,” Howell says. “Retirees come for the lake.”

The chamber’s top priority is to alleviate traffic problems on Columbia Avenue, a busy connector to Chapin from I-26.

Popular spots in the Chapin area include the Timberlake golf course, Crooked Creek Park and Billy Dreher Island, which offers a lakeside setting for picnicking, fishing and boating.

Chapin resident Kim Murphy, a community activist who is often critical of District 5 construction plans, says the Chapin area is a good place to live with a “small-town appeal,” quality schools and a lakefront draw to retirees.

But Murphy says the school district should put more emphasis on renovating schools rather than building new ones. And she says those that are built should not be too far away from the central population area.

A true picture of development in the Irmo-Chapin area is not complete without including the unincorporated area known as Ballentine, just outside Irmo town limits.

As Irmo annexed close-by areas, including the site of a new Wal-Mart, some Ballentine residents decided it was time to incorporate and protect themselves before their neighborhoods are gobbled up by Irmo or Columbia annexations.

An incorporation vote was easily defeated in 2007 but a new effort is in the works.

It targets a smaller area where supporters say it would have a better chance of success. Meanwhile, development is expected to continue between Irmo and Chapin, and beyond.

Twenty years from now the new Chapin might be the next town up I-26, Little Mountain.

Is Chapin the New Irmo?


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Riverside should be impressive with young talent from the cesa 16 select team

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Greco3:
Who are the players that are going to make an impact?

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I am not exactly familiar with the names, dylan and parker play for the 16s and not sure about the other..but 4 returning starters from the state champion team

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Who are those four starters. i thought thay only had two returning starters?

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again not familiar with the names..i know of the 2 defenders in the back and 2 midfielders

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regarding the free times article shown above, while it may be entirely correct as it relates to the people, schools, population, etc., between the two towns, i would like to offer that demographics has had very little to do with the past success of irmo high school on the soccer field.

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Obviously coaching had alot to do with their success. However, if Irmo High School was located in downtown Columbia I doubt they have the success they have enjoyed. Good or bad soccer has been predominately a caucasion sport due to a variety of factors. Irmo enjoyed success because club soccer became an important part to their players development. The domographics (race, age, income, mobility (in terms of travel time to work or number of vehicles available), educational attainment, home ownership, employment status) have played a pretty big part in their success. All of those items would relate to the ability of players to play soccer year round which would lead us into another discussion.

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true, but there are plenty of more-caucasionier (i just made that up) and higher-income areas than irmo (which also includes df) that aren't nearly as successful. and, they were plenty successful a long, long time ago, when they weren't nearly as chapin-like.

to clarify, at least imo, soccer has been predominately a caucasion sport IN THE US.

again, i propose that irmo was successful in soccer well before the demographics in that area became what they are today. and (where is CHICO when you need him !!!) i also believe that area has seen its share of downward shifts in all those things you believe to be so important. not saying that the irmo area has ever looked (statistically) like downtown columbia, only that it has not been a solidly upward arrow in all those areas you seem to be placing so much emphasis on.

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Does anyone know when the preseason polls come out? What do you think they will look like?

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Preseason polls will be released at the SCHSSCA Winter Clinic on January 30.

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I would like to throw my 2 cents worth

Many teams can be in contention this year. The upstate looks heavy with Chapin moving in the mix. The lower state seems up for grabs.Socastee, Myrtle Beach, Hilton Head, B-C, could all be in it at the end.

I think a team that many is forgetting about is South Aiken. This will be their first year in 3A and were very competitive in 4A. I beleive they bring back a huge core of starting line up and their JV players from last year will add to a pretty deep team. Can they compete--I think so--will they win it? yet to be determined. I think it comes down to coaching.

What does everyone seem to think? I would place SA in the top 10 in 3A

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Achmed can't stand it.....

Let's get this season started


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I have to agree with newby.

SA is going to make an impact in 3A and a team to watch along with Socastee BC Dreher and others.

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I have seen Dreher mentioned several times and I agree historically they have had a strong program, but aren't they going through another coaching change and didn't they graduate some really good players in the last two seasons? Are they reloading with another strong group or is there going to be a drop off for a while?
Also, I'm seeing alot of the usual suspects in both upper and lower state being mentioned. Does anybody know of any darkhorses in 3A statewide?

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my preseason top 10

1. eastside
2. chapin
3. riverside
4. socastee
5. south aiken
6. brookland cayce
7. j.l. mann
8. greenville
9. dreher
10. north myrtle beach

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1 Eastside
2 South Aiken
3 Riverside
4 Socastee
5 J.L. Mann
6 Greenville
7 Brookland Cayce
8 Myrtle Beach
9 Chapin
10 N. Myrtle Beach


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wunderkid #10,
No way chapin can be number two. thay lost so many players from ast years team. that also goes for riverside being so high.

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so then i guess its settled that eastside is the favorite from the north and the south will be fought out between south aiken and socastee.

anyone know anything about the rest of socastee's team besides belair and watson.

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what kind of talent does South Aiken have?

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Eastside is definitly the favorite going into this year, I am hoping some one can step up and challenge them to make this year interesting.

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S. Aiken should be pretty solid with a lot of seniors. I would favor them to win the region and contend for lower state.


As far as Chapin, I don't know about #2 but definitely still up there. they lost a lot of talent but still have a lot from last years team as well as some talented JV players coming up. Never hurts to have a pretty good coach too.

BC will definitely be able to contend as always and Dreher should be competitive even though they had some losses. They have a solid player in #4 Byron (don't know his lastname). He is always a threat to score.

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aren't south aiken brookland cayce and dreher all in the same region this year due to the realignment?

if so there should be some good battles and i would also pick SA to win the region and contend for a chance to play at stone stadium.

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^ that's dumb


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Socastee will be great this year, BC is better than S. Aiken, Dreher might be better then S. Aiken. S.Aiken may have a lot of seniors but they dont have much of a chance to go to stone stadium.


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maybe so, but it is all irrelevant because i don't think anyone will be able to beat eastside for the championship,

tons of talent.

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