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I would have guessed Mauldin would be one of the few schools that topped TL Hanna in points. I would imagine Wando, Dorman and Dutch Fork would also lie in the 60-70 point range.
It would be interesting to see which AAAA team that was ranked last year had the lowest point total, or was successful with the least returning experience, club experience and All-Region/State level players; which is what this point rubric focuses on.
This rubric also makes it interesting to look at the points your team would have accumulated in years past:
Westside 2002-03 = 14 Points
Westside 2003-04 = 12 Points
Westside 2004-05 = 16 Points
Westside 2005-06 = 20 Points
Westside 2006-07 = 22 Points
Westside 2007-08 = 21 Points
Westside 2008-09 = 38 Points
Having been around the TL Hanna players through club and Dale Jr. over that time period, I imagine they've had a similar increase in points in recent years, though they probably started around the 25-30 range. On the other hand, I think if you looked at Mauldin's points back in 2002-03, they were already around 60-70. I remember those 10-0 at halftime games like they were yesterday...
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Minor suggestion: 5 for ODP, 4 for Premier, 3 for Challenge, 2 for Classic, 1 for Rec.
Also, dividing points for starters (limited to 11) and bench gives you a pretty good idea of depth.
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Westside's progression is a direct benefit of the success of club soccer in the Anderson area. Increased participation at CASA from the Anderson schools, as well as Daniel, Seneca, and Walhalla will raise the level of play for each team this year.
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Westside's progression is a direct benefit of the success of club soccer in the Anderson area. Increased participation at CASA from the Anderson schools, as well as Daniel, Seneca, and Walhalla will raise the level of play for each team this year.
Absolutely. The CASA teams that have high school players were pretty impressive this year.
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I would have guessed Mauldin would be one of the few schools that topped TL Hanna in points. I would imagine Wando, Dorman and Dutch Fork would also lie in the 60-70 point range.
It would be interesting to see which AAAA team that was ranked last year had the lowest point total, or was successful with the least returning experience, club experience and All-Region/State level players; which is what this point rubric focuses on.
This rubric also makes it interesting to look at the points your team would have accumulated in years past:
Westside 2002-03 = 14 Points
Westside 2003-04 = 12 Points
Westside 2004-05 = 16 Points
Westside 2005-06 = 20 Points
Westside 2006-07 = 22 Points
Westside 2007-08 = 21 Points
Westside 2008-09 = 38 Points
Having been around the TL Hanna players through club and Dale Jr. over that time period, I imagine they've had a similar increase in points in recent years, though they probably started around the 25-30 range. On the other hand, I think if you looked at Mauldin's points back in 2002-03, they were already around 60-70. I remember those 10-0 at halftime games like they were yesterday...
That is coaching, baby!
Amen! That man has raised a program from nothing and hung in there when greener pastures came calling.
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Ryan, see if you can get Pay for Points in your contract! [Based on your starting coaching salary from 02-03 naturally}
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This system only accounts for a strong/weak bench of 2 players. There is a big difference between a team that can go 13 deep with returning Premier/Challenge players and a team that can go 15-16 deep with that level of players. I think the top 16 players would be a better measure and would include the teams ability to deal with injuries, illnesses, etc.
I think you have a good point and I considered using 15 players in the ranking system.
To illustrate your point, I understand that Mauldin played their key end games last season with 5 potential starters sitting on the bench due to injuries and they still made the Finals. Another similar point is that Mauldin also had a regular starter and she was a Freshman, which would have lowered their score. However I decided to use the 13 top rated Girls as being the ones who are the most likely to play.
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Minor suggestion: 5 for ODP, 4 for Premier, 3 for Challenge, 2 for Classic, 1 for Rec.
Also, dividing points for starters (limited to 11) and bench gives you a pretty good idea of depth.
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ODP is not a regular commitment as far as games played and if we give it 5 points it would be a major influence on the results of the system. I stick with my corrected (see earlier posts) 3 for Premier, 2 for Challenge, 1 for Classic, (0 for Rec. If they are not playing they will not make the HS team top 13).
Yes depth is a consideration. See earlier post.
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DEPTH
I think the depth of the team is taken care of by part B of the system in quantifying the results.
Team and Coach Merit Rating
Allow 2 points for making the Upper or Lower State Quarter Finals, assuming the same HS coach returns
Allow 3 points for making the Upper State or Lower State Final assuming the same HS coach returns
Allow 4 points for playing in the State Championship, assuming the same HS coach returns
Deduct one point from each of coach merit ratings listed above, if the current coach is not returning.
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It's not a bad system. A bit of tweaking, but the idea is nice.
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