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Pinewood graduated a couple. It should be a good game, when and if it happens.
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Yes, both Pinewood and Cardinal Newman are playing this weekend.
I'm not disagreeing that CN will be a difficult out, and I have a lot of respect for the coaches at both CN and BC, but, really, BC as the measuring stick? I understand your personal affinity and all, but, this singular basis of explanation is difficult to understand.
I'm pretty sure 5 years ago, Pinewood beat CN in the playoffs.
Three years ago, Pinewood beat CN in the playoffs.
Two years ago, Pinewood beat CN in the Championship.
Last year, Pinewood beat CN in the playoffs.
There are players on Pinewoods team that have been a part of each of these games, so they know the road to the Championship is likely through CN. It will be a good game when they do meet.
Bear,
I was very impressed with Cardinal Newman last night and in recent years. Solid club from front to back led by College of Charleston signee Thomas Winstead (whose brother Matt played at USC and whose father Brian is one of the Gamecocks' all-time leading scorers). The Cardinals have great size throughout their squad with Nick O'Rourke and Gabe Roldan providing excellent height in the midfield.
Compliment those players with the likes of Mike Beaudoin, Zach Hrovat, Mike Maracich, and Adam Touma, and the Cardinals were most definitely the best team Brookland-Cayce faced during a grueling preseason for an inexperienced varsity squad that the Bearcats have this spring -- and that includes perennial Class 4A state powers Spring Valley and Lexington, as well as an improved White Knoll side.
As for B-C being a "measuring stick", it's probably HTP's familiarity with the Bearcats program that provides him that insight and comparison:
Bearcat Soccer (2005-2008)
.723, 47-18, Regular Season
.488, 17-18-5, Tournaments/Postseason
.714, 20-8, Region (1 Championship, 3 Runner-Up)
.633, 64-36-5, Overall
Massey Rating
'08, #18
'07, #32
'06, #20
'05, #25
Massey Strength of Schedule
'08, #22
'07, #27
'06, #12
'05, #22
Postseason (Final Rank)
'08, #4 - 3A Lower State Finals (lost to Chapin, 0-1 pk)
'07, #9 - 3A Second Round
'06, #4 - 3A Lower State Finals (lost to Dreher, 2-4 ot)
'05, #8 - 3A Second Round
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Man, the wrath of Kyle, I don't know whether to feel good or bad :-). I have no doubts that Cardinal Newman is a very solid squad. It will be fun to watch them play.
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since there had been so much pinewood prep vs cardinal newman talk prior to this past weekend, i'm kinda surprised no one has mentioned anything about the results…
cardinal newman (#26) went up against wando (#7), fort mill (#24) and hilton head (#35), came away (0-2-1) with 3 pts and an 11th place finish.
pinewood prep (#11) went up against lexington (#8), summerville (#13) and myrtle beach (#19), came away (3-0-0) with 24 pts and a 2nd place finish.
granted, no playoff matches were played, but even if there were, pinewood's final placement could have only been as low as 4th (maybe 3rd, depending on how that was calculated) but they could have also won the tournament, while cardinal newman could have ended up 11th or 12th.
* note: '08 statewide massey rating/ranking shown above ()
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Well done Pinewood Prep this weekend. Managing to come away with 3 wins against very good teams, in tough conditions, is no small feat. However, the numbers you gave were a bit skewed in describing this year's teams.
Massey ratings show no indication for the next year's teams. What I mean is, 2008 rankings are in no way a 2009 preseason ranking. For example, Lexington(8) is replacing 9 starters from a 2008 team that finished 5th in 4A, Summerville(13) was the 2nd highest rated team for 2009 in this group heading into the weekend, and Myrtle Beach returns few if any starters from last year's quarterfinal team. In addition, Wando(7) features 8 seniors returning, Fort Mill(24) has 9, and they both hold preseason top 5 4A rankings. Hilton Head(35) also holds a top 10 3A preseason ranking, coming off a year where they lost an overtime game to the aforementioned Myrtle Beach team in the 2nd round.
Cardinal Newman and Pinewood Prep were both missing key starters due to basketball. I am not sure of Pinewood's numbers, but I believe Cardinal Newman was missing 4 starters (I assume Pinewood was around the same number).
So, if you want to look at some rankings that are a bit more in-tune with the '09 season...
Cardinal Newman (0-2-1): Wando(#3-4A), Ft. Mill(#5-4A), Hilton Head(#9-3A)
Pinewood Prep (3-0-0): Lexington(#13-4A), Summerville(#6-4A), Myrtle Beach(#12-3A)
I think the build-up is appropriate for CN and PP. I think it's fair to say though, that this first weekend is a tough indicator as to how a possible May matchup would turn out.
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i take it you're going from eurosportscoreboard.com?
so, although lexington and myrtle beach both beat summerville, you still think that is more accurate?
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I think Myrtle Beach and Lexington's rankings are about where they should be, and Summerville could be a bit overrated. I'm taking into account that a lot of things can happen when you play two games in a few hours. Wando and Ft. Mill should switch positions.
Still, its the same argument, and I definitely think that's more accurate.
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Pinewood Prep has an excellent soccer team this year, despite the limited numbers. With the infusion of several Bridge FA soccer players, who play at the US Soccer Academy level, the small school in Summerville, SC will continue to produce state champions. Not playing that weekend was Malcolm Reed, a defensive stopper, who recently signed with the University of Central Florida. The team is full of young talent; Justin White, an athletic and physical striker who scored 3 of 4 goals. Thomas Ferro technical abilities are second to none. Dillion Thies, Taylor Katsanis and Brandon Phinney are defensive wizards allowing 1 goal in 3 matches. Anchoring the team with their senior leadership are Joe Sweet and Brandon Ferro.
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How could you forget about Robert Beebe in goal? Arguably, one of the best keepers in the state. Who also plays with the Bridge FA U16 Academy Team.
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Justin White, an athletic and physical striker who scored 3 of 4 goals.
And didn't Taylor Katsanis score the fourth? How young are these players?
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