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The 2003 Palmetto Cup, hosted by Brookland-Cayce High School, will be held April 17-19 in Cayce-West Columbia, SC.

The 15-team field is highlighted by Class 4A #2 Dorman, Class 3A #2 Eastside, Class 1A #1 Christ Church, SCISA #1 Pinewood Prep, and Virginia entry Atlee of Mechanicsville.

The tourney will be held at Brookland-Cayce's "The Cage" (1300 State Street, Cayce) and at Lexington Two District Stadium on the campus of Airport HS (1315 Boston Avenue, West Columbia).

Admission is $4 per match or a tourney pass is availabe for all matches for $12.

For a complete tourney schedule, check out the B-C soccer web site at www.scsoccer.com/bcsoccer and click on the Palmetto Cup link on the left. Directions for teams are available as well at Palmetto Cup Directions.

Come enjoy Spring Break at the Palmetto Cup!

PINEWOOD PREP IS NOT #1 IN THE PRIVATE SCHOOL LEAGUE

ummm... yes they are, look under boys rankings SCISA and you will see pinewood prep right beside #1

Mr. J.B. Owens - you any relation to Mark?

Looks like a great tournament! Doesn't Dutch Fork usually play in this tournament? Where are they, did they get invited back? Should be some great games this week across the river.

Coming from Charleston, can someone give directions to the fields? Thanks in advance.

Scratch that, just found them on the Tourney web page.

CHRIST SCHOOL IN GRENVILLE IS THE #1 PRIVATE SCHOOL SOCCER TEAM IN THE STATE.YOU MUST NOT GET OUT VERY MUCH.I AM TALKING ABOUT ALL PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN THE STATE.2ND WOULD BE BISHOP ENGLAND THEN PORTER GAUD.LET'S SEE HOW PINEWOOD AND BE DO THIS WEEK.

well he said #1 in SCISA, if chirst school was SCISA they would probably be #1 but they arent in SCISA like he said

JBO = Dumb... or He just cant read.

Mr. J.B. Owens - I couldn't agree more that CC is the best private school in the state and that BE is right behind them. But, sir (or madam), that is not what you said.

Now, if you want to declare PG the best in SCISA based on performance this coming weekend, you need to get your head out of the sand. PG somehow managed to get the easiest draw in the history of the tournament. Agreed, BC is traditionally a power, but this is a rebuilding year for them.

BTW, check your schedule, BE is not even playing this weekend.

AND QUIT SHOUTING! Geez.

I wouldn't say that we are clearly better than all the other private schools. We did beat BE but it was in a really close game that could have gone to either team. I dont know if BE has played Pinewood or PG, but we haven't. I would wait and see what happens at the Palmetto Cup to say who is the best.
Also, I think BC will make the semifinals. The tournament is home for them and they have always done well in the past. They know what it takes. Wait until after the tourny to decide who's the best.

The tourny is fixed... BC is in the easy brackett...

Don't count out PG in that bracket. With Mark Owens in goal they can be very stingy on D.

Dorman will win it.Sorry B.England isn't there.Would have been a great match tween B.E.& Dorman.Best 2 teams in the state!

Just saw where The Church beat B.E..THE CHURCH MUST BE FOR REAL, also not many other teams in the state could play with Eastside like they did.WHERE DO THOSE GUYS PLAY CLUB?MUST BE GFC.Still think that BE is the in the state though.Where was The Church/BE match?

We have 4 guys who play at GFC, one who plays on Atlanta Fire, and a number who use to play for GFC, St. Giles, or Spartanburg. We played @BE. It was a really good game, BE's field is beautiful. We were lucky to pull of a win there and against Eastside.

Once again,Heise has lined up a great tourney!

I'm confused. If Porter Gaud is 3rd behind CC and BE then why did they lose to Pinewood 2-1 and then lose to Beaufort Academy yesterday 1-0 while Pinewood beat up on Beaufort 4-1 last week.Seems to me that the much tauted PG team is missing something somewhere this year. Two losses in SCISA AAA this year may be all that is needed to end up on second behind Pinewood. Seems the Pinewood program is not getting the respect that it should. Additionally, CC is not in SCISA just like BE. The man did say # 1 in SCISA. He left out the AAA part. There is no way to know the best "private" school team due to the inclusion of private schools into the public league schedule as there is no head to head match ups. Gee, sounds like the National Football Championship mess in College. Lots of opinions, everybody has one, and no way to truely prove it on the field.

Good joke about Dorman winning it all. They have about 30 seniors on that team, but no leadership whatsoever. NONE. Put a decent team to play against them, and they crap their pants.
Watched 'em agaist Spartanburg yesterday. They score four goals, and still stay scared. Running around like chickes with their heads cut off.
I said it before, and i'll say it again. There is not enough luck in the whole world to see Dorman to any kind of championship.
Put them under pressuer, and they'll fall appart like a house of cards.

In fairness to the discussion regarding group play, it was originally BE, B-C, P-G, and Clover. When a diocease ruling disallowed BE from participating in events occurring after Ash Wednesday, Stall was the first team who committed to play in the tournament. The circumstances surrounding Stall's program this year led to their forfeiting the tournament games, and hence the tournament groups stand as they currently are.

Dutch Fork was invited. This is the first year they have not played in this tournament since its inception. The schedule provided to them by the Region dictated that they could not play in the tournament this year. Their presence is missed.

As for those who wish to post comments like 'this tournament is rigged', I am all for the rights and values granted to folks in this wonderful country. However, they need to check the historical record of competition played by ALL the teams in the tournament throughout its existance. In the past, B-C (and the others) at times played the number one team in the nation at this event, amongst numerous tournament and state champions from all different classifications. It was unfortunate that Bishop England was unable to attend this year.

Can you post all of the scores in this area? Thanks!

I am actually working one of the press boxes at the tournament right now, and will update as we get time. The tournament runs straight through so it will be difficult to update often. Here are the scores from yesterday.

2003 Palmetto Cup - Results of April 17, 2003

Lexington Two District Stadium - Game 1

Lexington 1, Socastee 1

Goals - Lex: Tyler Haladay;
Socastee: Kent Moore

Shots - Lex 10, Socastee 15

Saves - Lexington: Will Faulkner 9
Socastee: Brandon Myers 5

Records - Lexington (9-4-1), Socastee (10-5-1)

Lexington Two District Stadium - Game 2

Hilton Head 3, Pinewood Prep 1

Goals - HH: Ian Fleming, Eric Cerrati, Daniel Harms
PP: Lawrence Reed

Shots - PP 14, HH 6

Saves - Pinewood Prep: J.P. Hardke 2
Hilton Head: Mike McCullion 4

Records - Pinewood Prep (10-2), Hilton Head (9-3)

Lexington Two District Stadium - Game 3

Lexington 3, Eastside 2

Goals - Lex: Sean Maupin (2), Dom Pierallini
Eastside: Sean Simmons, Kevin Ruck

Assists - Lex: Matt Hudson, Maupin, Pierallini
Eastside: Christian Cignarale, David Wilburn

Shots - E 13, L 11

Saves - Lexington: Will Faulkner 6
Eastside: Daniel Howell 4

Records - Lexington (10-4-1), Eastside (10-2-1)

Lexington Two District Stadium - Game 4

Christ Church 2, Socastee 0

Goals - CC: Jake Hendrickson, Fletcher McCraw

Shots - CC 17, S 6

Saves - Christ Church: Justin Ouimette 2
Socastee: Brandon Myers 8

Records - Christ Church (12-3), Socastee (10-6-1)

2003 Palmetto Cup - Results of April 17, 2003

The Cage - Game 1

Atlee (Mechanicsville, VA) 1, Spring Valley 1

Goals - A: Ryan Lerow
SV: Taylor Correll

Assists - A: Kyle Talman
SV: Luis Osorio

Shots - A 12, SV 11

Saves - Atlee: Tyler Marsh 8
Spring Valley: Kevin McCarty 5

Records - Atlee (1-1-2), Spring Valley (11-4-1)

The Cage - Game 2

Ridge View 2, West Florence 1

Goals - RV: Jody Davis (2)
WF: Joel Kozak

Assists - RV: Keith Edwards

Shots - RV 19, WF 9

Saves - Ridge View: Travis Gawler 4
West Florence: Matt Parker 7

Records - Ridge View (11-6), West Florence (8-7)

The Cage - Game 3

Brookland-Cayce 1, Clover 0

Goal - B-C: Carlos Farias-Perez

Assist - B-C: Les Sonefeld

Shots - B-C 21, C 6

Saves - Brookland-Cayce: Hans Weed 3
Clover: Colt Hunter 10

Records - Brookland-Cayce (6-11), Clover (5-9)

The Cage - Game 4

Spring Valley 2, Hilton Head 1

Goals - SV: Chase Rowell (2)
HH: Brian Small

Assists - SV: Taylor Correll
HH: Brodie Scanlin

Shots - SV 10, HH 8

Saves - Spring Valley: Kevin McCarty
Hilton Head: Mike McCullion

Records - Spring Valley (12-4-1), Hilton Head (9-4)

Great info. Thanks for your time!

You're Welcome.

2003 Palmetto Cup - Results of April 18, 2003
Lexington Two District Stadium - Game 5

Christ Church 4, Eastside 2
Goals - CC: Scott Burgess, Tomek Charowski, Jake Hendrickson (2); E: Christian Cignarale,
Edwin Rengifo
Assists - CC: Burgess, Charowski, Bobby McCall
Shots - CC 14, E 8
Saves - CC Matt Theisen 1
Records - Christ Church (13-3), Eastside (10-3-1)

Lexington Two District Stadium - Game 6

Porter Gaud 5, Clover 0
Goals - PG: Petar Mulatinovic (3), Seth Palesch, Steven Scardato
Assists - PG: Mulatinovic (2)
Shots - PG 14, C 4
Saves - Porter-Gaud: Mark Owens 4, Clover: Colt Hunter 2
Records - Porter-Gaud (9-5), Clover (5-10)

Lexington Two District Stadium - Game 7

P.M. Dorman 3, West Florence 1
Goals - D: Michael Zion, Marc Pirchmoser, Jon Scott; WF: Joel Kozak
Assists - D: Andrew Harris (2), Samir Masic
Shots - D 11, WF 5
Saves - Dorman: Jack Ryan McDonald 2, West Florence: Matt Parker 4
Records - Dorman (15-0), West Florence (8-8)

Lexington Two District Stadium - Game 8

Pinewood Prep 1, Atlee (Mechanicsville, VA) 0
Goal - PP: Lawrence Reed
Shots - PP 9, A 3
Saves - Pinewood Prep: Matt Accetta 2, Atlee: Tyler Marsh 2
Records - , Pinewood Prep (10-3), Atlee (2-2-2)

Lexington Two District Stadium - Game 9

Socastee 2, Eastside 1
Goals - S: Jason Gough, Kyle Murphy; E: Edwin Rengifo
Assists - S: Matt Curtis; E: Christian Cignarale
Shots - S 10, E 5
Saves - Socastee: Jared Tucker, 10; Eastside: Daniel Howell, 5
Records - Socastee (11-6-1), Eastside (10-4-1)

Lexington Two District Stadium - Game 10

West Florence 5, Summerville 4
Goals - WF: Jordy Jordan (2), Daniel Bazen, Joel Kozak, David Schendel; S: Daniel Frye, Conner McGee, Kevin MacDonald.
Assists - WF: Brazen, Kozak, Joseph Hoefer, Schendel
Shots - WF 10, S 16
Saves - West Florence: Matt Parker 6, Summerville: Brandon Wogamon 3
Records West Florence (9-8), Summerville (6-6-2)

From The Cage at Brookland-Cayce - These will be the only total stats until the evening rounds are finished, but scores will be posted as they are received.

The Cage - Game 5

Brookland-Cayce 3, Stall 0 (forfeit)

The Cage - Game 6

Atlee (Mechanicsville, VA) 3, Hilton Head 0
Goals - A: Grant Bonistalli, Ryan Lerow, Kyle Talman
Shots - A 13, HH 9
Saves - Atley: Tyler Marsh 6, Hilton Head: Mike McCullion 5
Records - Atlee (2-1-2), Hilton Head (9-5)

The Cage - Game 7

Ridge View 1, Summerville 0
Goals - RV: Keith Edwards
Records - Ridge View (12-6), Summerville (6-5-2)

The Cage - Game 8

Christ Church 3, Lexington 0
Goals - CC: Daniel Oettl, Tomek Charowski, Scott Burgess
Shots - CC 12, Lex 10
Saves - Christ Church: Justin Ouimette 5; Lexington: Will Faulkner 3
Records - Christ Church (14-3), Lexington (9-5-1)

The Cage - Game 9

Porter Gaud 2, Brookland-Cayce 0

Final Matches:

Spring Valley 4, Pinewood Prep 0
P.M. Dorman 3, Ridge View 0

Saturday Matches and Times:

At The Cage, Brookland-Cayce HS
9:00 am - P.M. Dorman vs. Summerville
2:00 pm - P.M. Dorman vs. Porter Gaud (Semifinals)
4:00 pm - West Florence vs. Clover
6:00 pm - Ridge View vs. Brookland-Cayce
8:00 pm - Winner of 2:00 pm matches (Championship)

At Lexington Two District Stadium, Airport HS
12:00 pm - Pinewood Prep vs. Eastside
2:00 pm - Spring Valley vs. Christ Church (Semifinals)
4:00 pm - Atlee (Mechanicsville, VA) vs. Socastee
6:00 pm - Hilton Head vs. Lexington

Awesome info guys. I suppose you couldn't give us a little run-down of the games too

Thanks to David Easley for posting these "real time" results -- that's really a nice touch!

The schedule for Saturday can be found on the Boys Scoreboard and also down below.

SATURDAY, 4/19

THE CAGE @ BROOKLAND-CAYCE HS
9 am - P.M. Dorman 1, Summerville 0
12 pm - Summerville 3, R.B. Stall 0 -- FORFEIT
2 pm - P.M. Dorman (3-0) vs. Porter-Gaud (3-0) ***SEMIFINALS***
4 pm - West Florence (1-2) vs. Clover (1-2)
6 pm - Ridge View (2-1) vs. Brookland-Cayce (2-1)
8 pm - Winners of 2 pm matches ***CHAMPIONSHIP***

LEXINGTON TWO DISTRICT STADIUM @ AIRPORT HS
9 am - Porter-Gaud 3, R.B. Stall 0 -- FORFEIT
12 pm - Pinewood Prep (1-2) vs. Eastside (0-3), 0-0 35th minute
2 pm - Spring Valley (2-0-1) vs. Christ Church (3-0) ***SEMIFINALS***
4 pm - Atlee-VA (1-1-1) vs. Socastee (1-1-1)
6 pm - Hilton Head (1-2) vs. Lexington (1-1-1)

***NOTE - Atlee was moved from their scheduled 6 pm match vs. Lexington and swapped with Hilton Head due to a request from the Richmond, Virginia based team that will be driving back immediately following their match.

Ties still exist on Saturday, except for the Semifinals and Championship matches, which will follow SCHSL overtime procedures of two five minute periods and if still tied, a penalty kick shootout will ensue.

1 - Winner of 8 pm match
2 - Loser of 8 pm match
3 - Tie between losers of the semi-final matches
5 - Winner of 6 pm match with higher point total
6 - Winner of 6 pm match with lower point total
7 - Loser of 6 pm match with higher point total
8 - Loser of 6 pm match with lower point total
9 - Winner of 4 pm match with higher point total
10 - Winner of 4 pm match with lower point total
11 - Loser of 4 pm match with higher point total
12 - Loser of 4 pm match with lower point total
13 - Winner of 12 pm match with higher point total
14 - Winner of 12 pm match with lower point total
15 - Summerville, 1-3, 7 GF, 7 GA
16 - R.B. Stall, 0-4, 0 GF, 12 GA

As of 11:00 a.m. on Saturday, 4/19, there have been 2 ties, 9 one-goal matches, 4 two-goal matches, 5 matches decided by three goals or more, and the 4 forfeits by R.B. Stall in the three-day event that has featured 24 matches.

Match results from today's action:

Final Scores:

P.M. Dorman 1:0 Summerville
Pinewood Prep 2:2 Eastside
P.M. Dorman 0:1 Porter Gaud - Porter Gaud advances to the championship match.
Christ Church 0:1 Spring Valley - OT - Spring Valley advances to the championship match.
West Florence 2:2 Clover
Atlee 3:1 Socastee
Lexington 0:1 Hilton Head
Brookland-Cayce 1:3 Ridge View

Championship Match:

Spring Valley 2 Porter Gaud 0

Box Scores

2003 Palmetto Cup - Results of April 19, 2003

Lexington Two District Stadium - Match 11

Porter Gaud 3, Stall 0 (forfeit)

Lexington Two District Stadium - Match 12

Pinewood Prep 2, Eastside 2
Goals - PP: Roger Kudrzycki, Will Tunstall; E: Sammy Lortz, Willie Hunt.
Assists - PP: Kudrzycki, J.P. Hardke; E: Hampton Brown.
Shots - PP 9, E 10
Saves - Pinewood Prep: Matt Accetta 2; Eastside: Daniel Howell 2
Records - Pinewood Prep (10-4-1), Eastside (10-4-2)

Lexington Two District Stadium - Match 13

Spring Valley 1, Christ Church 0 (ot)
Goals - SV: Luis Osorio
Shots - SV 11, CC 13
Saves - Spring Valley: Kevin McCarthy 4; Christ Church: Justin Ouimette 9
Records - Spring Valley (14-4-1), Christ Church (14-4)
Note: With this win, Spring Valley advances to the championship match.

Lexington Two District Stadium - Match 14

Atlee (Mechanicsville, VA) 3, Socastee 1
Goals - A: Ian Jeremiah (2), Ryan Lerow; S: Shawn Bell
Assists - A: George Byrd, Patrick Harkins
Shots - A: 8, S 7
Saves - Atlee: Logan Reed 3; Socastee: Brandon Myers 2
Records - Atlee (3-2-2), Socastee (11-7-1)

Lexington Two District Stadium - Match 15

Hilton Head 1, Lexington 0
Goals - HH: Alex Kristoff
Shots - HH 4, L 11
Saves - Hilton Head: Mike McCullion 5; Lexington: Will Faulkner 1
Records - Hilton Head (10-5), Lexington (9-6-1)

The Cage - Match 11

P.M. Dorman 1, Summerville 0
Goals - D: Kyle Walker
Shots - D 10, S 2
Saves - Dorman: Jack Ryan McDonald 2; Summerville: Brandon Wogamon 5
Records - P.M. Dorman (17-0), Summerville (6-7-2)

The Cage - Match 12

Porter-Gaud 1, P.M. Dorman 0
Goals - Porter-Gaud: Seth Palesch
Shots - PG: 4, D: 12
Saves - Porter-Gaud: Mark Owens 6; P.M. Dorman: Jack Ryan McDonald 1
Records - Porter-Gaud: (13-5), P.M. Dorman (17-1)

The Cage - Match 13

Ridge View 3, Brookland-Cayce 1
Goals - RV: Jody Davis (2), David Stovall; B-C: Caio Gaspar
Shots - RV: 11, B-C: 8
Saves - Ridge View: Travis Gawler 4; Brookland-Cayce: Hans Weed 3
Records - Ridge View (13-7), Brookland-Cayce (6-13)

The Cage - Championship Match

Spring Valley 2, Porter-Gaud 0
Goals - Taylor Correll (2)
Assists - Fernando Barlongo, Paddy Flynn
Shots - SV: 13, P-G: 8
Saves - Spring Valley: Kevin McCarthy 6; Porter-Gaud: Mark Owens 5.
Records - Spring Valley (15-4-1), Porter Gaud (13-6)

OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!First class tourny runto perfection!!!! Online scores USC can't even get their website right! I was there for the first two days and plan on being there this afternoon but I do have a question: Where were all the college coaches? I think I saw two or three but NO Berson/USC staff or Clemson or Furman or CofC!!! Unless they show today that is pathetic!!!!!!! I mean even if they aren't looking at SC players (which they SHOULD) they shoukld at least support SC high school soccer!!!!

sheaer
PS there are at least five/six D1 players at the Palmetto Cup and a slew of sophmores and freshmen to look at(BC AND EASTSIDE/CCES) PATHETIC on their part!!!!!!

I've seen Berson at Irmo, Ridgeview, Dreher and Lexington home games this year. He was looking at the kid from BE, Ben Lippen and not sure who on the other teams. He was also at the first half of the Dreher/BC game accoring to an AC Flora parent who spoke with him.

Can't say why none of the college coaches are at at the tourney. It is Easter and they may be spening time with families. The Cincinnati Blue Chip Showcase is this weekend as well. You're only allowed to have two coaches on the road at any given time. Is there any odp stuff going on?

As a side note, I was at the BC tourney last year when Paul McDonough (of USC) showed up to watch. His expression was priceless when he saw BC was selling CoC tee-shirts.

How's the field at BC holding up?

Porter Gaud beat Dorman?

I told y'all not to count out PG!

Kevin and Kyle and David - Congratulations on a great tournament.

Porter Gaud beat Dorman 1:0 on a goal in the 37th minute which stood as the game winner. Great game by Mark Owens, PG's keeper who is going to PC, with 6 saves in 12 shots. Dorman outshot PG 12-4.

The Spring Valley v. Christ Church was also a great match. Late in the match, Luis Osorio for SV made a great back save via. header out of the goal mouth off a corner. Early in OT, he got through and put in a nice goal which stood as the game winner. They play in the championship tonight at 8 at The Cage at Brookland-Cayce.

The turf at The Cage is indeed showing wear, mostly at the seams between the original pitch and the replacement turf nearest to the touch line. We were very displeased with the revelation that the original construction of the pitch was so poorly done that the torrential rains and collapsed underground drainage system caused all that grass to die out ... All B-C soccer teams have played every home game on the road since those early downpours. What a drag.

Imagine if B-E had been able to attend as originally scheduled for that group. By the way, I am at Dist. Stadium with the other matches, but Kyle and I stay in touch w. the walkie-talkies. We are trying to keep everyone informed, but it is a little tougher today. The scores are updated for in-progress games as soon as we get the time. See Kyle's post earlier for those scores (on page 2 of this topic).

great job on this tourney guys. Best tournament around by far. i had a great time playing in it with all of the great teams. The fields were great, the reffs were good for the most part, and the games flowed well and started and ended on time. I even enjoyed watching the games while waiting to play. The SV/Atlee game was awesome and the PG/Dorman game was great today as well. We had a great battle with Summerville too. Keep up the good work guys and i hope to come back again next year.

Yes PG won.
It was a great tourney. On the field, and here in the forum. I have to say one thing though. I don't think it was fair to Dorman that they had to play the 8pm game yesterday which lasted till at least 9:30, and then the 9am game this morning. After that one, they met a fresh PG team at 2pm. Can't take anything away from PG. They played well, and they have a very good keeper.

Your point is well taken, but Dorman elected to play in this manner due to the fact that this was not their week for Spring Break. This was done per the request of Coach Osorio based on their need for this type of scheduling concession. Finally, most of the other teams had to perform in a similar manner on either Thursday/Friday or Friday/Saturday.

Dorman will recover from the loss as they are an outstanding team and should figure into the mix as one of the favorites for the AAAA State Championship. We are just glad to be able to have gathered together these talented teams from several different public-and-private school classifications in one setting to provide such a competitive atmosphere.

does anyone know the name of the ref that was covering the far side of the field at the championship match? Tall guy, peppered hair, and I believe he has a british accent?

I believe you are referring to Barry Lee.

GREAT TOURNAMENT AT BC THIS WKEND

NEW RANKINGS OUT FOR "PRIVATE SCHOOLS":
1 PORTER GAUD
2 CHRIST CHURCH
3 PINEWOOD PREP

Dave Easley,
Great job on a great tournament; the soccer was tremendous. One comment on the SV-CC game; Luis' goal was tremendous, but I think it was Paddy Flynn, not Luis, who "got through" the defense. Also like to see more discussion of the team that won, SV, rather than which of the private schools in the tournament is the best - SV beat three of them - Pinewood, Christ Church and Porter-Gaud. Oh yeah, spoton, I know you hate the Northeast kids, but we would have beat BE if they were there, too.

JBO- I would expect some more objectivity from a former official. 1) There is no "Private School" league rankings on this very comprehensive web site, hence it is all a matter of your opinion. So--- I'll give mine of yours. You can't compare apples and oranges unless they meet head to head or have common opposition. PG and Christ Church never met but both lost to Spring Valley in this tournament. Pinewood has split it's two games with PG 0-1 and 2-1 and has not suffered the let down that PG did against Beaufort Academy losing 1-0 at home. Both Pinewood and Porter lost to Spring Valley in this tournament. All seems like a wash to me. You then need to revert to the SCISA rankings in in this forum and the rankings show #1 Pinewood at 12-3-1 and #2 Porter at 12-6 and if you respect this forums rankings, then Pinewood on the field is better than Porter. 2) To rank Porter ahead of Christ Church fails to recognize or accept that Porter clearly had the easiest route to the final 4 in this tournament and the easiest group. Stall, prior to forfieting all it's games was the worst AAA team in the state, loosing games 12 and 18 to 0 and was 0 and 7 or 8 prior to forfieting the rest of their season. B-C is #19 in AAA and Clover #23 after the tournament. For PG to have not reached the final 4 would have been unthinkable to most objective viewers. So to win 5-0 and 2-0 was not a tough challenge.
To then play an overconfident Dorman team who willingly set themselves up to play 2 games 3 and 1/2 hours apart and expect to beat a team who had played one less game than everyone else in the finals in a very fatigue filled tournament was a pleasant gift as well. Granted, objectively PG apparently played very inspired soccer against Dorman and the win was a true feather in that team's hat as Dorman was unbeaten this year prior to then. Dorman made a classic mistake of looking past a very good team that they felt they could beat because they weren't a "4A" team and should have been a walk over. 3) Christ Church beat the pants off of the #11 and 16 4A teams and the #2 3A team. A far greater achievment than beating # 19 and #23 3A teams. So objectively, not like an impassioned parent, it would seem to be 1- Christ Church, 2-Pinewood, 3- Porter Gaud. 4) To claim that Porter Gaud's defense has not gotten the respect it deserves over the past few years must be referenced towhat audience you are talking about. SCISA teams clearly know how good this defense is against other similary SCISA opponents. But if you are asking the people in this tournament to respect that defense , one must only look at the 2-13 record in this tournament over the past 4 years. This year they took a step to getting SCISA respected by the "big boys" with their showing but again, it was clearly the easiest route to the final four. Pinewood showed itself well taking on the #9 and 10 4A teams as well as a well recognized Atlee team. SCISA is up and coming, but until Pinewood and PG meet in the state tournament, Pinewood is currently #1, objectively speaking.

Kudos to BlackBlueWhite who correctly stated that there was no way Dorman would win the championship based on the way they were playing. He either really hates Dorman or knows his HS soccer.

PS What do you want to call Bishop England. They too are a private school who lost to Christ Church, beat Porter and has not played Pinewood yet. They are probably the true #2.

to dormans defense they had a tough draw, and the times were hard on them as well. Not to take anything about for PG though... great game.

who is on the all tourney team

Kyle has added the all-tournament team in another post in the forum ... see the All Tournament Team Posted Here .

To all the folks who responded so positively about the tournament and those with suggestions, thanks! We try to make it the best tournament around -- and there are an awful lot of good tournaments in this state. We are glad to make it a positive soccer experience. We appreciate the feedback!

By the way, Soccerdad - you were exactly right on Paddy Flynn getting through and dishing to Luis. In the flurry of activity I am faced with at that moment, I failed to jot that down and when asked on the board regarding the events in that match I did not respond as fully as I would like to have. Thanks for the correction. I also admire the way Paddy gave it all in the championship. He was down and hurt more times than I could remember, but he always came back and was right back in the mix. Kudos to him for his efforts.

In addition, I am in no way taking away from Spring Valley's accomplishments in the way I responded to posts as they were added to the board. I hope it was not seen as though I was - that is not my intent. Spring Valley played an outstanding tournament and should proudly carry away the trophy as one of those pieces of hardware which is truly earned. Some of the nation's best teams go away from the Palmetto Cup with a lesser placement than they have at the end of the season. I believe that the Vikings have an excellent chance to play for another championship in just a few weeks ... my comments on the PA after the championship match alluded to that fact.

PINEWOOD HAS 3 IN THE LOSS COLUMN, P-GAUD, HILTON HEAD, AND SPRING VALLEY. I DON'T SEE ANY BEAUFORT ACADEMY'S IN THEIR LOSS COLUMNS, HOW DO YOU RANK P-G #1?

It's a travesty...a sham...a farce...a disgrace...an embarrassment...a mockery...

It'll all be settled on the field in the end.

OK, Doc, prepare yourself for the wrath of Mr. J.B. Owens of Isle of Palms, SC, you know he'll be on here CROWING any time now like he was the one on the field instead of the kids.

Porter Gaud's amazing tourney is good reason to rank them ahead of us (Pinewood) in SCISA. If we wanted to stay ahead of them, we should have beaten Hilton Head or Spring Valley to finsih first in our group. We were fortunate to beat PG and I still think of us as the underdog in SCISA. I'm not even sure we should be ahead of Cardinal Newman.

Dave,
You did indeed give SV kudos after championship - thanks for the kind words. The comment about private school talk was not directed to you, but other posters who seem to have turned this topic into who's the best private school, rather than discussion of the Cup. I thought the level of competition was very high this year, and certainly shows you all pick an extremely competitive field, and don't just look at AAAA or AAA, etc. As was said elsewhere, no one came through the tournament unscathed - I think that shows how tough the competition was (and I too am sorry that some SC college coaches missed it.

To SCDREWABLANK:

In reference to your comment about the selling of College of Charleston soccer t-shirts at the 2002 Palmetto Cup last year, I would like to respond.

The t-shirts were being sold by 2001 alumni Troy Lesesne who plays for the Cougars. He had asked in advance of the tourney if he could sell CofC men's soccer t-shirts as part of his fund-raiser to raise money for the College of Charleston's trip to Tobago last August -- in preparation of the 2002 men's college season.

As a 2001 Brookland-Cayce graduate and very loyal/active supporter of our program (he's been around the program since he was 5 years old) of course he was welcome to "pedal" his wares at our tourney.

I couldn't care less what other collegiate coaches thought of him selling those t-shirts there, they too could ask if they wanted to submit camp applications or other paraphanelia at the tourney!

I had one big-time "state" coach ask, "Who, who's selling those t-shirts" ... Needless to say I told him it was a former Bearcat player that had attended four of his camps and wanted to attend his school, but he had informed him that he was too small and not "good enough" to play for that program. In fact, he stated that he was not good enough to play for a DI program.

In Troy's defense and due justice, Lesesne scored the winning goal versus that team this past fall and is starting and loving his time at CofC.

No apologies here for that reaction - but please know what you are talking about before you post here about things you know not!!!

Kevin
Well said!! It is refreshing to see that not everyone in the Columbia area fears Berson! You are correct in allowing a former player support his college by selling the t-shirts! If I would have seen them I would have cetainly bought one!!! A few years ago I had the privelage to meet Troy and his girlfriend(CUTIE) after the BC vs Ridge View match! What a preformance and what a great kid! How does such a class act get out of Columbia? If he lived in Greenville Adair(Clemson) would have gave him a chance! Oh well just makes my point!!! Well Done Troy and Kevin!!!!!

By the way another class tourny!! Looks like you are "reloading" You must enjoy those Seabrook kids!!!!
PS this guy(scdrew) just loves Berson!!!!!