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I guess Ryan is still busy painting his house so I thought I would open a thread for this week. Here are some interesting match ups.
Monday
BC/Ben Lippen
Eastside/Byrnes
Tuesday
Aiken/Barnwell
FM/Charlotte Latin
Myrtle Beach/BE
Westside/Christ Church
Woodruff/Greenville
Wednesday
Mauldin/Greenwood
Woodruff/Spartanburg
Thursday
First round of VK begins
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FM vs. Latin will be played on Wednesday, February 25. (I've run Kevin & Kyle ragged with so many changes to the Fort Mill schedule that I didn't have the heart to give them this one.) 
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Thanks for keeping the ball rolling, Craig!
Props to Woodruff for facing Greenville and Spartanburg on back to back nights. They truly will play anyone.
I think all of the good scrimmages throughout the week will be overshadowed by the tournaments over the weekend. Predictions out the window, here a few teams in each with a view to a kill:
Spring Valley Viking Cup
Bracket A - Mauldin, Hilton Head
Bracket B - JL Mann, Dutch Fork
Bracket C - Wando, Dorman, Eastside
Bracket D - Riverside, Summerville
Dark Horse - Woodruff, Clover
Easley Greenwave Invitational
Bracket A - Wren, Blue Ridge
Bracket B - Daniel, Walhalla
Dark Horse - Emerald, Hillcrest
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Lady Warhorse Classic
Feb. 27-28
Barnwell
Colleton County
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Ben Lippen vs Barnwell is going to be a good match. I hope you saved that one for last!
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Is this the 1st Lady Warhorse Classic? I agree with Dale, the Ben Lippen vs Barnwell game will be a very good match!
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Can you do that?
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Can you do that?
From the SCHSL Rules and Regulations Governing Contests
"7. Definition of a tournament
A tournament is a series of contests in competition for a championship in which at least 1st & 2nd place is decided by a final contest between the two teams."
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I think what Jr. means is, hopefully Ben Lippen and Barnwell aren't scheduled to play each other in the first round, so if they both win they will play each other in the final.
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Ahhhhhhh Chass, the only one who understands me...
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...and that is a scary thought. 
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They had a Lady Warhorse Classic before I got here but I wanted to get it started again....I am hoping to go to 8 teams next year!
Yes...Ben Lippen vs. Barnwell will be on Saturday at 5:30
Tournament champion is determined by a point system
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Tournament champion is determined by a point system
Was the determination of a champion by a point system approved by SCHSL? We were told by SCHSL that you now have to have a championship game. We were referred to the new definition in the rules:
"7. Definition of a tournament
A tournament is a series of contests in competition for a championship in which at least 1st & 2nd place is decided by a final contest between the two teams."
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Tournaments are very important and can attract many good teams. They also have other benefits. It would be incredible for it to grow to 8 teams. My best wishes to Barnwell in their tournament.
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It was approved by the SCHSL back in December or January
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Tournament champion is determined by a point system
Was the determination of a champion by a point system approved by SCHSL? We were told by SCHSL that you now have to have a championship game. We were referred to the new definition in the rules:
"7. Definition of a tournament
A tournament is a series of contests in competition for a championship in which at least 1st & 2nd place is decided by a final contest between the two teams."
This definition is in the "2008-2009 Rules and Regulations Governing Contests"
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May I ask, is there something wrong with a point system? I know that there are other tournaments, that still use a point system I believe.
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Fort Mill Invitational had the same problem. We were told that a point system would no longer be allowed to determine the champion. There must be a championship match. A point system could be used to determine which teams play for the championship.
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My question is why the SCHSL would have any reason to have a say in how any sponsored invitational tournament determines its champion. Total win/loss records, including tournament matches, can be used as region tiebreakers for playoff spots, but tournament championships mean nothing except in the tournament itself. Sounds like micromanaging for no good reason.
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My question is why the SCHSL would have any reason to have a say in how any sponsored invitational tournament determines its champion. Total win/loss records, including tournament matches, can be used as region tiebreakers for playoff spots, but tournament championships mean nothing except in the tournament itself. Sounds like micromanaging for no good reason.
I will tell you exactly why they have done this. Some folks use a "tournament" to get extra regular season games in. I will give you an example. I coach middle school basketball in a very good local league with schools that feed Easley, Hanna, Westside, Seneca, Daniel, Pickens, and Wren. We have 9 middle schools but we are only allowed 14 regular season games. That makes for an uneven regular season schedule. One year Roger Hazel allowed us to play 16 regular contest and only one tournament but Jerome didn't like that and we are not allowed to do it anymore. So this year we had the bright idea to use our Chistmas Tournament as a day of playing the teams that we only played once. However, there would not be a champion if we did that and it would not be a true tournament. There is no way the high school league will let us do that.
Now do you see why they define a tournament that way? It keeps schools from going around the rules.
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2/23
@ Brooland-Cayce: 2
Ben Lippen: 1
Excellent scrimmage between two evenly matched teams. BC has an excellent and young team this season! We were missing two starters but had all of our girls step up in a big way. Came out flat and gave up an early goal. We fought back and held our own and really played a great second half. I don't have the stats with me, so I'm not sure who scored the goals for BC, but they were very nice shots and well played. The second goal was a beauty! Ben Lippen goal scored by Sammi Osman in the 2nd half on a direct kick after a hard foul. Physical and fun scrimmage. Best wishes to the BC squad on their season! I'm proud of the hard work my girls continue to put forth! They showed that they can recover from a slow start and played a great game against a very good team.
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May I ask, is there something wrong with a point system? I know that there are other tournaments, that still use a point system I believe.
We were told that it is OK to use a points system to determine the top 2 teams, but those top 2 teams must then play a final match to determine the champion.
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Hm...that makes sense, CJ...sounds like they're just trying to make sure the INTENT is to declare a champion, not just play for the sake of playing.
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We were told that it is OK to use a points system to determine the top 2 teams, but those top 2 teams must then play a final match to determine the champion.
Will they play 2 matches in a day or three? If three, I didn't think they could do that??? Can someone clarify.
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I can understand some think a point system is not as good a method to determine a tournament champion and causes confusion. Still, a local sponsored tournament should be able to use whatever system ( as long as approved by SCHSL ) that they want. For smaller tournaments, I can see where the point system works to decide a champion. Now if it were an 8 team tournament or somethin on that scale, then a point system would be used to make a "Championship Round." Is there a maximum number of days a tournament can last? Or limit to how many times a team plays?
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I knew Andy had it going on, but wow.
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Tournaments can be played over a maximum of ten consecutive days; for soccer, teams are limited to a maximum of two games per day, with a minimum of one hour of rest in between.
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As a semi intelligent man, I too understand you but can rarely resist the chance to gig.... When I do that at home my teenagers almost always say "That's not funny" followed by my thought to myself that it really was.
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Eastside - Wando shaping up to be a very good first-round Viking Cup match Friday night. 
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As a semi intelligent man, I too understand you but can rarely resist the chance to gig.... When I do that at home my teenagers almost always say "That's not funny" followed by my thought to myself that it really was.
Insert wife for kids and "that's not funny" for eye rolling. I understand now!
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Eastside - Wando shaping up to be a very good first-round Viking Cup match Friday night.
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@ Woodruff
Greenville 2
Woodruff 0
Very close game was a good one to watch. Two keeper mistakes resulting in two goals, but thats why you have scrimmages first. Great game girls
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Score heard from players. Can anyone else confirm?
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Good solid game between two good teams. Aiken looks to be pretty solid....they pass the ball really well and their back is solid....I like them as a darkhorse this year in 4A....Ron dont you disappoint me!!
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Boiling Springs was 6 - 0 over Broome.
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A good, tough scrimmage for the Lady jackets, just the kind of tune-up they needed before the Viking Cup. All goals scored in the first 20 minutes, with the final 60 minutes a physical battle for possession.
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maybe they got it out of their system.
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