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I really meant it when I said that I did not want to be on either side of this. It is a difficult situation either way. Yes 16-0 is ugly and, frankly, I was embarrassed by it. But I'm not sure beating someone up for 40 minutes and then playing keep-away for another 40 is any less ugly or less embarrassing. The method of subbing and position switching used in the first half last night kept the score to 6-0. That method did not work in the first 20 miutes of the second half and it got bad quickly. Should something have been done a little sooner to slow things down? Probably. But I thought things looked just as bad in the final 20 minutes as they did in the previous 20 although no scores were put up on the board. I'm just not sure there is a good solution to this issue.




coach p i have watched some bad teams at times. usually my kids were on one of them. i do understand as crazy as it sounds that it is hard not to score at times. then it leads to the argument about making a team look bad by playing keep away. irmo just happened to have that problem last night and it got them in the line of fire.
maybe this argument will have coaches trying to keep the score down even harder. then we can wait for the argument when a team is up 6-0 at half and tries not to score anymore and the opposing team comes back to win 7-6




HH, I think you had some bad intentions when you brought this up. I don't know if you opened anyone's eyes or shed any light on the situation. Other than to take a shot at a team/players/coaching staff, what was the point? What do you have against them?

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I am still somewhat bemused by this somewhat newly-developed sense of outrage when a strong team gets double digits on an inexperienced team. I don't remember anyone coming out with guns blazing on the boards a few years ago when Wando, West Ashley, James Island and Summerville were racking up high teen scores on us--least of all me. Knowing they were going to keep shooting (even if it was with the 2nd and 3rd string) let us measure our progress more accurately...when single digits finally came against these teams was an accomplishment, not a mercy gift. We didn't fold up as a team, players didn't give up and go home, it didn't destroy anyone's youth and innocence...and we got stronger. If they had made us think we were within 5 or 6 goals of them way back then, they would have done us a tremendous disservice--and believe me, passing the ball up and down the field is more insulting and damaging to a team's ego than running up the score...it means it's obvious they're just playing with you, and don't respect you enough to think you can take a hit.

I say hit us as hard as you want, and go home and sleep well. If you knock us down, don't suffer from guilt; we'll just get back up and play harder.

Back to the original topic, on 3/17:

Colleton 3
Berkeley 1

Congrats to Colleton for playing a wide-open match and catching my defense off guard--we will see you again in a few weeks!


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Well said Chass...

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I think personally getting beat 16 nil or anything over 10 nil just makes you respect the teams for trying thier hardest and even coming to every match ready to play soccer. Its great sportsmanship for a team to continue playing a game being down 10+ goals and it shapes up great adults i believe.

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I used to coach at Spartanburg Soccer Club years ago and teams scored 13 plus goals in the state league on us. We had a recreational team playing in the top division. I have learned my lesson being on the 'crushed' side.

We have done several things with weaker teams, pulling players off and playing numbers down. We have played in games with seven players. Taking mostly JV players (we call them A/B players not ready yet for varsity but are training with us until their skills get better) and let them play with players on the varsity team who don't get alot of playing time. This is great experience for both type of players. Our goal is to keep it under 10, no matter what we have to do.

But I have confidence in Mike that he did what he could to keep the score down.

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Agreed. He is a quality coach and I like the volunteered help to improve the OW area infrastructure.

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I really meant it when I said that I did not want to be on either side of this. It is a difficult situation either way. Yes 16-0 is ugly and, frankly, I was embarrassed by it. But I'm not sure beating someone up for 40 minutes and then playing keep-away for another 40 is any less ugly or less embarrassing. The method of subbing and position switching used in the first half last night kept the score to 6-0. That method did not work in the first 20 miutes of the second half and it got bad quickly. Should something have been done a little sooner to slow things down? Probably. But I thought things looked just as bad in the final 20 minutes as they did in the previous 20 although no scores were put up on the board. I'm just not sure there is a good solution to this issue.




coach p i have watched some bad teams at times. usually my kids were on one of them. i do understand as crazy as it sounds that it is hard not to score at times. then it leads to the argument about making a team look bad by playing keep away. irmo just happened to have that problem last night and it got them in the line of fire.
maybe this argument will have coaches trying to keep the score down even harder. then we can wait for the argument when a team is up 6-0 at half and tries not to score anymore and the opposing team comes back to win 7-6




HH, I think you had some bad intentions when you brought this up. I don't know if you opened anyone's eyes or shed any light on the situation. Other than to take a shot at a team/players/coaching staff, what was the point? What do you have against them?





im not sure what you mean by bad intentions but you are right that i was taking a shot at them. a shot for scoring 16 goals and 10 of them coming in the first 20 of the second half. not the first 10 goals of the game but 10 goals period.
really didnt start out to open up any eyes but if another coach keeps the score down then i guess it did. wont know until it happens.
if you read all my post i never took a shot at the players and stated this score wasnt on them.
as i also stated before i have nothing against irmo but against the score.
that make you happy jimmie.

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Well said Chass...



hey NW coach

are you going to say that when the score gets run up on you. i forgot. you pack the box these days.
i seem to remember you having a 13 goal lead on RH one time, the clock had stopped at the 2:OO mark and one of your starters still ripping shots.

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Fire the coaches and disband the team. That'll teach 'em. HH has spoken...

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