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Re: 94 Girls ODP team coldhardtruth #127800 01/24/10 06:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 86 U UncleBuck throw in
UncleBuck throw in U Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 86	15 players, 2 alternates is plenty. Here's the reason they didn't cut anybody on the 93's. 23 players X $960 = $22080 15 players X $960 = $14400

Re: 94 Girls ODP team coldhardtruth #127801 01/24/10 06:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 240 L live and learn Corner Kick
live and learn Corner Kick L Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 240	I don't understand what there is to complain about with 12 selected to a team and 16 alternates. I'm assuming they will continue to have training sessions until 6 more from the alternates pool are selected to the team? So even if you are not one of the 6 eventually selected to fill out the team, you at least, hopefully, have gotten some additional good, competitive training, that you wouldn't have otherwise gotten, at no additional cost, correct? Also gives the coaches a better chance to evaluate and make the best selections possible. What is so bad about that? Last edited by live and learn; 01/24/10 06:14 PM.

Re: 94 Girls ODP team UncleBuck #127802 01/24/10 09:09 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 273 Chapin SoccerPOP9194 corner kick
SoccerPOP9194 corner kick Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 273 Chapin	Quote: 15 players, 2 alternates is plenty. Here's the reason they didn't cut anybody on the 93's. 23 players X $960 = $22080 15 players X $960 = $14400 ODP is not a money maker for SCYSA! If you look at the cost versus what your actually paying for it is VERY reasonable. for example the sub regionals 235.00 this year but that cost included transportation to and from, hotel room (2 nights) and 90% of the food cost. How much of the 235 could possibly be left over? Same with regionals in NOLA 400.00. again that included transportation, hotel room for 3 nights, and 90% of the food for 4 days. VERY reasonable! IMO "We do not quit playing because we grow old, we grow old because we quit playing."

Re: 94 Girls ODP team SoccerPOP9194 #127803 01/25/10 07:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 A aroundtheblock kick off
aroundtheblock kick off A Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28	Cost - Room:3-4 girls to a room ( approx.$65/night) 2nights per girl(approx $45) Meals:Hotel breakfast(free), Boxed lunch($5), Buffet dinner($10) Total Cost per player- $60 $235 - 60 ____ $175 profit per player

Re: 94 Girls ODP team aroundtheblock #127804 01/25/10 09:58 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 18 M Mary bench
Mary bench M Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 18	Don't forget there was a bus and driver that had to be paid for the weekend, and his lodging, I assume. I don't think there was any profit, and if so it wasn't much. I would be curious to know why you guys are so worried about it anyway. If the parents are willing to pay for this, and the players are wanting to participate, I believe that is enough. My daughter went on this trip, and it was a good experience for her, as it was for probably ALL of the girls AND boys involved. Plus, If any of you have ever watched a soccer game, you know that the score is not always indicitive of how the game actually went. It would be nice if you would move on to something else.....

Re: 94 Girls ODP team aroundtheblock #127805 01/26/10 05:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 83 U upstatesoccermom Throw In
upstatesoccermom Throw In U Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 83	Quote: Cost - Room:3-4 girls to a room ( approx.$65/night) 2nights per girl(approx $45) Meals:Hotel breakfast(free), Boxed lunch($5), Buffet dinner($10) Total Cost per player- $60 $235 - 60 ____ $175 profit per player You forget buses & bus drivers for the weekend (including their rooms/meals), coaches' rooms/meals (4-5 per team), chaperones' rooms/meals (3-5 per team), extra water (always plenty of bottled water available in the hotel), etc.

Re: 94 Girls ODP team upstatesoccermom #127806 01/26/10 06:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 A aroundtheblock kick off
aroundtheblock kick off A Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28	Ok....add approx.$500-600 for all that and there still is profit. Enough said !!

Re: 94 Girls ODP team aroundtheblock #127807 01/26/10 07:58 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 273 Chapin SoccerPOP9194 corner kick
SoccerPOP9194 corner kick Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 273 Chapin	Quote: Ok....add approx.$500-600 for all that and there still is profit. Enough said !! I don't know the going rate to rent a bus and driver for a day. But I'm pretty certain that 500-600 would not even come close to renting 2 buses and 2 drivers for 3 days. 500-600 MIGHT cover one bus for one day (but I doubt it.) Bottom line ODP is VERY reasonably priced It is the organization as a whole (in SC) that needs to be overhauled! I think the administrators have done a good job with the resources at their disposal. However, SCYSA needs to step back and look at the process and start thinking "outside the box" when and if they ever re-tool the process. (IMO) "We do not quit playing because we grow old, we grow old because we quit playing."

Re: 94 Girls ODP team SoccerPOP9194 #127808 01/26/10 10:16 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 127 L Loves to Play goal kick
Loves to Play goal kick L Joined: May 2009 Posts: 127	Enough already...if your kid wants to do ODP then the cost isn't an issue. If they don't then leave well enough alone...12 pages of arguing about the pros and cons of ODP is a little tiring. Nothing has changed in ODP and nothing will probably change in ODP. Can we move on to something else please?

Re: 94 Girls ODP team Loves to Play #127809 01/27/10 12:58 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 202 State of Confusion B Bebe Le Strange corner kick
Bebe Le Strange corner kick B Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 202 State of Confusion	Quote: Nothing has changed in ODP and nothing will probably change in ODP. Can we move on to something else please? I say something has changed in ODP. The Academy option has become a real option and is taking many of the best players away from ODP throughout the country. So it's not just a SC problem.

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