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Jonathan #129657 02/17/10 07:25 PM
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I'll treat this as a legitimate question and attempt to give a legitmate answer...I'm feeling fairly objective and don't feel attacked; I just enjoy some self-deprecating deadpan humor now and then.

I think Coach Allen said it pretty simply in the other thread; during high school season, coaches want to enjoy and focus on high school soccer and high school competition, not make high school season an extension of club competition as some are prone to imply. Most high school coaches I know put a lot of work into their teams, which in most cases includes encouraging the players to participate in fall-season programs to get maximum playing time and training, but if a team is successful and the success is attributed to "what club do the players come from?" then it seems (seems--we're talking perception, not necessarily the speaker's intent) to discount the high school coach's efforts and focus only on the outside influence. It's not always just about the level of players who show up, but how well you work with them in the high school season that influences their performance as a high school team...I think the HS coaches (rightly) feel that the focus should be on how their players function as a team FOR THEIR SCHOOL.

For myself, whatever level of players I have come out for high school season, whether they be inexperienced, rec, classic, challenge, or above, if someone asks who they play for, I expect them to reply, "Berkeley!"

During club season, whether my players come from Berkeley, West Ashley, James Island, Academic Magnet, Bishop England, or any other school, when someone asks them who they play for, I expect the answer to be "United!"

Make sense?


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Tell us what you really think..CJ
I have to agree..Club ball is over..Let it go..My daughter's team has one premier player on it and who really cares? If anything..you put that team in a tough spot..If they lose a game..How could they have lost with all those premier players?
High school ball is going on now..Let's enjoy it and club season will come back around again..

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How did I know Coach Class was going to jump in front of me?

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Sorry!


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... why in your opinion do HS coaches get rattled over the HS club comparison?




Well, I was going to say parents get rattled not the coaches, because HS coaches understand the differences in the two environments as CJ and Chass pointed out and one big difference that they didn't... unlike club teams, HS teams necessarily change every year due to graduation which adds the coaching burden of rebuilding team chemistry every year.

But, now I can't say that, because YOU apparently rattled a coach with your INCESSANT RANTINGS ABOUT WHO'S GOT THE MOST... ANYTHING!!!

CJ, sorry you've left the building, but if you're looking for fairness relative to respect for HS coaches, understand this... my daughter will not be found playing for "bums" of any kind whether they be coaching HS or Club. What do the club coaches do? The current coach of my daughter's premier team teaches English Literature at a local high school, and her first coach at this level of play is/was an executive with Michelin. You can't call all club coaches "soccer bums" any more than club coaches can call all HS coaches incompetent. When venting, we can usually say whatever comes to mind, but your call for the fairness deserved by HS coaches should really go hand-in-hand with fairness extended in the other direction.

Yep, fairness all around, I say, except towards the new guy. Any one with a name like "McLOVIN" needs to see a doctor about those parentheses before being allowed back in this thread!!

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Sorry, more my style in a sword fight... hide in the secret passages and drop a pot on their heads.

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This thread is whole lot better than American Idol. It's time for another thrust and jab from someone.

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Forget American Idol, the Olympics are awesome tonight. USA just picked up 4 medals so far tonight.

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Deltadog, you probably know the answer to this better than I, but is it possible the Club and High School issue may be mute? If this National league takes off will the players play year around? If so how will this impact the club players playing High School? Maybe we will not have premier player playing High School? At least ones from CESA


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