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How do you check to see how a card was turned into High School league? Do you contact the high school league or is it posted somewhere?

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Not posted anywhere. I believe the SCHSL notifies the AD of the player's school what suspension she has to serve.

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So if I get a red card am I supposed to sit out next game or do we follow that rule.

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I believe the length of the suspension depends on how the referee describes the reason for the ejection. Here is the ejection form to be submitted by the referee and coach/AD for all sports. The reasons for ejection that are available on the form to select are:

FIGHTING With Contact
FIGHTING No Contact
TAUNTING OR BAITING
OBSCENE GESTURES
PROFANITY (Give details in box below; include EXACT words used)
TWO UNSPORTSMANLIKE FOULS
FLAGRANT FOUL
DISRESPECTFULLY ADDRESSING OR CONTACTING AN OFFICIAL (Give details in box below; give EXACT words used)

I believe the length of suspension depends on which reason is used and the corresponding description.

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Unsportsmanlike acts that take place at the site of an interscholastic contest are League matters. All
ejections must be reported by the school to the League office by noon of the following day. The
League shall discipline violators of the following items:
1. An athlete who is ejected for using abusive language, flagrantly or maliciously contacting
another person, making obscene gestures to opponents or spectators, shall be ineligible
for a minimum of the next contest to the maximum of one year depending on the
seriousness of the violation.
Any attempt to verbally abuse, make obscene gesture to, threaten or strike an official or
member of the opposing coaching staff, shall be considered a serious violation making the
athlete ineligible for a minimum of the next two contests to the maximum of one year. Any
action that warrants a maximum penalty will also require that the school be placed on
immediate probation in that sport. The League Office will review any other action(s) that
result in an ejection with the possibility of additional penalties.
NOTE: Ejections that subject a player to next game(s) suspension will result in a minimum of two (2) games for all sports except football, cheer, swim and lacrosse. NOTE: Any ejection that warrants games(s) suspension will require the removal of the
athlete’s eligibility until the suspension has been served at the level of the ejection.
2. Any athlete who leaves the bench area to become involved in a fracas will be disqualified
from that game and will be subject to a minimum of a next game suspension depending on
his or her involvement. A school whose athletes violate this bench policy will be subject to
League discipline.
3. An athlete who is ejected for the second time in the same sport will have his or her athletic
eligibility removed for a minimum of two weeks. An athlete who has been ejected from three
contests during a school year (all sports) shall become ineligible for the remainder of the
school year. Game officials must report all player ejections so that the League Office can
officially notify the school of each violation. When an athlete is ejected for the second time in
the same sport, the school is required to immediately begin the above prescribed penalty.
4. Any post game unsportsmanlike activities that involves athletes, coaches and/or other school
personnel while at the playing area.


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Is it the honor system. For example if a player gets a red card that requires a one game suspension and plays in the next game because the opponent is not aware. Too bad or...

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Coach P...clean out your PM box...you're not allowed any more messages! Mr. Peabody is too popular!


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Mr. Peabody's eraser is always broken. Try it now.

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Our coach was told by someone at the SCHSL in the last month that a red card is a minimum 2-game suspension, no matter what the reason; including reasons not covered by Coach P's list (which is the same as the ejection form).

I can only assume the form was created by a football coach; not every scenario for a red card is given, and there is no "other" box.

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Quote:

I believe the length of the suspension depends on how the referee describes the reason for the ejection. Here is the ejection form to be submitted by the referee and coach/AD for all sports. The reasons for ejection that are available on the form to select are:

FIGHTING With Contact
FIGHTING No Contact
TAUNTING OR BAITING
OBSCENE GESTURES
PROFANITY (Give details in box below; include EXACT words used)
TWO UNSPORTSMANLIKE FOULS
FLAGRANT FOUL
DISRESPECTFULLY ADDRESSING OR CONTACTING AN OFFICIAL (Give details in box below; give EXACT words used)

I believe the length of suspension depends on which reason is used and the corresponding description.




This is a generic form that the SCHSL uses for all sports. It is not soccer specific. Big problem here is how a referee will report "DOGSO".

If the last defender attempts to tackle a forward going to goal, doesn't get the ball, and the referee deems that the defender who commits the foul is the last defender back......guess what?

It's a straight red.

What box does the referee check to explain to the SCHSL official what happened?

Let me explain this to you in basketball terms. The player is ejected from the game and gets a 2-game ban for essentially preventing a lay-up.

Sound fair? Does the punishment fit the crime?


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The form says "If the offense does not fall into one of the categories below, explain in the box below and leave these boxes blank."

Also, preventing an obvious goal scoring opportunity which happens an average of 2-4 times per match is quite different from preventing a lay up opportunity that occurs 20-40 times in a basketball game. Ie, fouling to prevent an obvious goalscoring opportunity in soccer is more equivalent to preventing 10 basketball layups!

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You commit a tactical foul to prevent a goal scoring opportunity. I'm not talking about tripping a player from behind, grabbing a jersey or grabbing a handful of hair. Just a foul. You missed the ball, got the girl.

Expulsion + 2 game suspension.

In basketball if you grab a player on a breakaway, to "prevent them from getting hurt (and scoring)"....it's a personal foul (you are allowed four more).

I understand that 2 points in basketball is considerably less than a goal in soccer, but you can do this five times in basketball (maximum 10 points) and your only penalty is that you are disqualified for the remainder of the game.

In high school soccer.......she gets to sit out 2 more games!


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...or four if she expresses her feelings about having to sit for two.


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Exactly!

And if the last defender attempts to tackle a forward going to goal, does get the ball, the center judge is not in a good enough position to see the play, the AR is scared to speak up at the time, and the center deems that the defender who commits the (non)foul is the last defender back...guess what? You are correct, and the powers-that-be at the SCHSL don't care if you have 20 witnesses and video proof of the refs mistake – it's the same punishment you'd get if you got a straight red for violent conduct or you punched an opponent.

Absolutely ridiculous.

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...and the powers-that-be at the SCHSL don't care if you have 20 witnesses and video proof of the refs mistake...



Well, Dutch Fork appealed a red card issued in Tuesday's match vs. Irmo and got it rescinded so that the girl is playing tonight vs. Lexington. Don't know what kind of evidence Dutch Fork may have had, but the SCHSL must have bought it.

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From what I've been told, video evidence is all that is acceptable. It's a good idea to have someone recording your games.


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...and the powers-that-be at the SCHSL don't care if you have 20 witnesses and video proof of the refs mistake...



Well, Dutch Fork appealed a red card issued in Tuesday's match vs. Irmo and got it rescinded so that the girl is playing tonight vs. Lexington. Don't know what kind of evidence Dutch Fork may have had, but the SCHSL must have bought it.



I understand that video evidence was used in Dutch Fork's appeal.

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The SCHSL has a long-standing reputation for poor rulings in appeals processes in all sports. In football, it kowtows to veteran coaches and big programs such as Summerville and Stratford. I can only assume the same is true in soccer.

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The SCHSL has a long-standing reputation for poor rulings in appeals processes in all sports. In football, it kowtows to veteran coaches and big programs such as Summerville and Stratford. I can only assume the same is true in soccer.




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Video evidence was used to rescind the decision.

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