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What are some your pet peeve's when it comes to youth soccer? I have two.

1) I hate it when the opposing parents take the center of the field and extend on both side. What happened to sitting across for their team don't they understand.

2) Just because some one falls, doesn't mean it's a foul.

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3) 95 reviews and no responses

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4.) Parents, Coaches, players and referees that don't understand what a true offside is about. A player can camp out at the other goal all day long, and will never be offsides unless he/she touches the ball.

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5.)When players on the field raise their hands while playing to call offsides.

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6. Not realizing you can be in an offside position without being penalized, BUT you don't have to actually touch the ball to be guilty of an offside violation.


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Laws of the Game: Law 11--Offside

Offside position
It is not an offense in itself to be in an offside position.

A player is in an offside position if:

he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent

A player is not in an offside position if:

he is in his own half of the field of play or
he is level with the second-last opponent or
he is level with the last two opponents

Offense
A player in an offside position is only penalized if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play by:

interfering with play or
interfering with an opponent or
gaining an advantage by being in that position

No offense
There is no offside offense if a player receives the ball directly from:

a goal kick
a throw-in
a corner kick

Infringements and sanctions

In the event of an offside offense, the referee awards an indirect free kick to the opposing team to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred (see Law 13 – Position of free kick).

Definitions
In the context of Law 11 – Offside, the following definitions apply:

“nearer to his opponents’ goal line” means that any part of a player’s head, body or feet is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent. The arms are not included in this definition
“interfering with play” means playing or touching the ball passed or touched by a teammate
“interfering with an opponent” means preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or movements or making a gesture or movement which, in the opinion of the referee, deceives or distracts an opponent
“gaining an advantage by being in that position” means playing a ball that rebounds to him off a goalpost or the crossbar having been in an offside position or playing a ball that rebounds to him off an opponent having been in an offside position

Infringements
When an offside offence occurs, the referee awards an indirect free kick to be taken from the position of the offending player when the ball was last played to him by one of his team-mates.

Any defending player leaving the field of play for any reason without the referee’s permission shall be considered to be on his own goal line or touch line for the purposes of offside until the next stoppage in play. If the player leaves the field of play deliberately, he must be cautioned when the ball is next out of play.

It is not an offence in itself for a player who is in an offside position to step off the field of play to show the referee that he is not involved in active play. However, if the referee considers that he has left the field of play for tactical reasons and has gained an unfair advantage by re-entering the field of play, the player must be cautioned for unsporting behavior. The player needs to ask for the referee’s permission to re-enter the field of play.

If an attacking player remains stationary between the goalposts and inside the goal net as the ball enters the goal, a goal must be awarded. However, if the attacking player distracts an opponent, the goal must be disallowed, the player cautioned for unsporting behavior and play restarted with a dropped ball from the position of the ball when play was stopped, unless play was stopped inside the goal area, in which case the referee drops the ball on the goal area line parallel to the goal line at the point nearest to where the ball was located when play was stopped.


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Is a player considered to be in an offside position if they are behind the goal line, two yards deep behind the goalkeeper in the opponent's goal, when a corner kick is taken? If the player comes back out and heads in the corner kick, is he to be judged offside?

If a player is two yards into his opponent's goal, behind the goalkeeper, before the corner kick is taken, should he be cautioned for leaving the field of play without the referee's permission?


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Back to #4 claiming to know a rule, and not knowing the rule. Hope you are not a ref.

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Refs not knowing how to control dangerous play...

they are kids, and will take it to the edge from time to time...

Our team will take it as far as the other team makes them (not allowing balls to be won by force, or violance)... so if the ref does not stop it early, it gets worse and worse and worse... If called tight they will play that way, and prefer it. If you want a fight, and the ref allows it, gloves off baby.

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7. Inadequate assessments for both coaches and refs
8. win at all cost mentality

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Parents on the sideline yelling "kick it, kick it hard!"

Kicking the ball up the field over everyone's heads hoping your team can run just that fraction of a second faster than the other team and score. What happened to possess the ball and attack with skill?

Parents who don't know anything about the game, but have been "watching" their kids play for years.

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Parents on the sideline yelling "kick it, kick it hard!"

Kicking the ball up the field over everyone's heads hoping your team can run just that fraction of a second faster than the other team and score. What happened to possess the ball and attack with skill?

Parents who don't know anything about the game, but have been "watching" their kids play for years.




Amen! This is bad at the game... but when they go home and tell the kids to do it, wink wink, when the coach is not around, is WORSE.

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Homer officiating.

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Is a player considered to be in an offside position if they are behind the goal line, two yards deep behind the goalkeeper in the opponent's goal, when a corner kick is taken? If the player comes back out and heads in the corner kick, is he to be judged offside?

If a player is two yards into his opponent's goal, behind the goalkeeper, before the corner kick is taken, should he be cautioned for leaving the field of play without the referee's permission?




1. No offense
There is no offside offense if a player receives the ball directly from:

a goal kick
a throw-in
a corner kick

2. It is not an offence in itself for a player who is in an offside position to step off the field of play to show the referee that he is not involved in active play. However, if the referee considers that he has left the field of play for tactical reasons and has gained an unfair advantage by re-entering the field of play, the player must be cautioned for unsporting behavior. The player needs to ask for the referee’s permission to re-enter the field of play.


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Coach, I think you may have just got caught up in a fishing scheme!

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Hurst knows the answers as well as anyone here, I'd think.


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Coaches, players, & parents who confuse 'one-touch' soccer with 'kick-ball' in which players one-touch the ball a random distance, in a random direction, and to a random player and then receive praise from their coach/parents because they 'one-touched' the ball.

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The other team's parents...they're always obnoxious.

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Parents who confuse the ability to PAY with the ability to PLAY.

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Parents who have never played but know more about tatics and training than coaches.

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because of all the reasons stated so far, lack of knowledge, or enough to be dangerous, soccer parents make it a tough game to watch.
moms screeching elbows, elbows, pushing, pushing, offside, offside, handball, handball....SHUTUP!!!

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The other team's parents...they're always obnoxious.




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Focusing on what annoys us about something rather than on our favorite positive things we get out of it...no better than harping on what a player does wrong rather than praising and encouraging what he/she does right.


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Perfect Coach. Again.

However, I believe that one of the biggest obstacles youth soccer faces is the 'positive reinforcement' of doing the 'wrong thing'. (I believe someone alluded to this earlier).

Tough situation we find ourselves in....

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clubs taking 18 on a roster and thinking the coach can offer enough pt to develop his/her players.

clubs focused on making money, winning over player development.

anybody watch the champion league match last night between santos and colorado? rapid were completely dominated by santos subs.

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For what it's worth, as any fool can tell you, having PLAYED the game does not necessarily translate into the ability to TEACH or COACH technical skills. As to tactical understanding, you'd be amazed how many top players in all sports lack tactical understanding, much less the ability to transmit it to kids.

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Perfect Coach. Again.

However, I believe that one of the biggest obstacles youth soccer faces is the 'positive reinforcement' of doing the 'wrong thing'. (I believe someone alluded to this earlier).

Tough situation we find ourselves in....




I admit that was somewhat poorly worded...what I should have said was, "focusing on what a player does wrong without equally praising and encouraging what he/she does right."


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What all coaches/trainers optimally seek is a proper balance between "positive reinforcement" and (negative?) correction. Neither is particularly relevant without the possibility of the other.
As to being "incorrectly positive," it beats the bejeezus out of being incorrectly negative.

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The idea that just because I am a parent, I could not possibly know anything about soccer.

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Bingo, JayJay. Couldn't have said it better. I'll take it a step further. Once had a coach lecture me on parenting. Told him to back off. That I wouldn't comment on his coaching, if he wouldn't comment on my parenting ... though I had considerably more experience at BOTH.

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at least we're not talking about the fish flop in yth soccer.

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how about tourny directed hotels, usually not the best deals or the most convienent

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And who better to know about where to get a good night's sleep than ...
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Excellent point.

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Officials that allow profanity used by players and coaches to go unpunished. Coaches who think their job is to be a chum to the players rather than a positive role model. Coaches who yell at their players the entire game. Three games this weekend I saw it all. The good. The Bad. And, The ugly.
Not sure what happened to gentlemenly conduct.


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Coaches who don't put their players in the best position to win the game. If you're down 1-0, and your formation and/or playing style hasn't been working the entire game, then make a change. At least show your players you are attempting to alter the course of the game.

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Kids who waste everyone's time screwing around in training, and coaches who are unwilling to cut them because of the lost revenue.

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Evaluation/Tryout Fees

Guest Players (when no one is injured)- if you aren't good enough to compete in the big-boy tournaments with the roster you came out of evaluations with, then maybe you shouldn't be entering those tournaments.

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