SC Soccer Forums SCSoccer.com Forums Boys Varsity Soccer A topic for smack talk for the playoffs so we don't interrupt the scores...

OK, here is a topic for pure trash talk. Go for it, see who you can insult and get really angry! At least we won't interrupt those that want to just look at the scores!

All I have to say is Lexington is looking good. I honestly think they are gonna get another upset. They no doubt have the potential to beat Wando. They did it once, they can do it again. And your an idiot.

I didn't realize this was English class? Wait a minute it's not, is that honestly the only way you can talk crap? Make fun of my grammar. You are such a toad

Well your a straight bean!(how was that?) If the Lexington players come out they can beat any team in the state no doubt. They dominated summerville and can play with the best.

*you're...not your

At least the other guy was some what original. You are a saucy toad, and an even bigger bean.

Ahhhh....just like the good ol' days

So who is taking the 4A upper state/lower state title,,,, state title? My prediction- Mauldin vs S Aiken ... S Aiken winning

Ahh the good ol' days?

Soooo Wando is definately gonna win 4A. Irmo's prime is over

Yea I'm not to sure about that. Lexington has beat Wando along with ashley ridge and bishop england. Lexington will beat Wando Tommorow. And irmo is still a great team

James Gray to save the day
Riverside 3
Spring Valley 1

Why is Lexington looking good? I understand that they beat Irmo but didn't Irmo have the better of that game and Irmo was still in a rut from palmetto cup. Their entire attitude will change for playoffs. And yeah they beat, but Wando 12 of Wando players had just played against the Columbus Crew (#2 academy team in the country). In my opinion not that good. But, we will see tonight. I think Wando owes them one.

Those academy players still played, they just didn't play the whole game. And Irmo didn't have the better of the game. It was an even game all the way through until Lexington scored

Hamilton Carlin didn't play. He's playing now. Wando wins!

One player doesn't make a team. If you were'nt on Wando's nuts you you might see that a lengthy ginger doesn't win games

somewhat....not "some what"

Mauldin vs Irmo?

I don't think Mauldin has enough intensity to make it to the upperstate final.

I think the Dutch Fork-JL Mann game is going to be a good one tonight. I think DF has a good chance of beat Mann...what do you guys think?

Naugsoccer22, why so anti Wando?

Wando will beat Lexington by multiple goals.

FINALLY!! A little smack talk!

**Achmed can definitely talk smack!
**"lengthy ginger"=funny
**Wando has more pieces to their puzzle than one player. Hard to pick against them.
**Carlin scores goals and he's proven he can do it when it matters most.

GOD DERN JULIUS CAESAR BUST OUT HERE!!!! THEY WON'T BE HERE THIS WEEK OR NEXT!!!!

Holy Crap!!!! Here we go
BC vs Socastee
Similar Records. But BC seems to have had the tougher schedule (opponents have better record ).
Scores against common teams. This is a wash...no defined pattern. BC tied MB, Soc loss twice to MB.
Inconsistence:
SOC: Beats N.M.B, but gets drilled by N.M.B later. A win and Loss against 14-11 Bylthewood
BC: Loss to Heathwood Hall.

Achmed not seen Socastee this year. BC defense solid, GK solid, midfield solid, strikers young but midfield general keeps them where they need to be.

If neutral field - I would have to go with BC.
BC on home filed...gotta go strong with BC.
BC 3 - SOC 1

Achmed has spoken

My picks for tonight:

4A - Greenwood, Mann, Wren, Irmo / SA, FD, Wando, AR
3A - Walhalla, FM, Seneca, Eastside / BC, NMB, MB, HHI
2A - Gilbert, Newberry, Emerald, IL / AM, Barnwell, Waccamaw, BE
1A - SJ, RSM, Dixie, CC / BH, BE, Hardeeville, GS

You can find me at the Mann/DF game tonight!

I'm going to the Lex/Wando game dressed in this!

OOOOHH NOOOOO!!

JACKSON, SAMUEL L. YOU NEED TO GET DOWN TO THE FRIENDLY STAFF AT MAYO'S FOR A NEW WARDROBE!

You shop there you are fo sho to end up like this! I don't roll like that!

EY MAN THAT SUIT GOT OUTLAWED IN NC THIS WEEK!!!

IMMA BE AT THAT RB STALL VS BARNWELL GAME TONIGHT DOWN IN N. CHUCK!!!

PROBABLY BE SOME YOUNG TENDERLOINS OUT SO I GOT MY OUTFIT LAID OUT ON THE BED ALREADY!

Bump some of this Based while you're headed over there!

IM MORE OF A BIG BEAR AND TONY TEE FAN MYSELF





TIME TO GET PHYSICAL REALLY HELPS ME AND MY HOMEBOI TYRELL GET DOWN IN THE GYM TOGETHER!

I'm bumpin this Isley Jasper Isley! The tenderloins like this stuff! Good soul music!

4A

I Don't think DF's defense is strong enough for Mann so I have to go with them, although I'll be pulling for Woodward and co. on the road.

Mauldin doesn't have enough for Irmo. I think Lexington is playing well. Wando is Wando....

3A

I'll be at BC/Socastee tonight, I think it is about as even as you could ask right now. Like I said earlier, if BC goes to State in 3A they will have earned it for sure.

Midfield Edge =BC
Attacking Edge=BC
Defensive Edge=Socastee
Goalkeeper Edge=Socastee

I like a 1 goal game either way but have to give BC the edge for being at home. That being said, I don't believe a 57 yard wide pitch hurts Socastee at all.

I heard Jason Mueller at NMB is sending spies tonight Bahaha

I HEAR YA MAN...WHEN I'M IN THE MOOD FOR SOMETHING SLOW LIKE THAT I JUST PUT ON MY BOI KEN.

My boys from Stall play that old school No Limit the Barwell coach will be Tebowing within 25 minutes!! Lets go Stall!

MAN STALL GONNA MAKE BARNWELL WISH THEY DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AND COULD GO WATCH GAMES INSTEAD!!!

COACH HOLBROOK GOT THOSE BOYS COACHED UP RIGHT!!! I'LL BE THERE FOR SURE!!!

Hasnt BC got knocked out of the play-offs at home the past 3-4 years? BC being at home doesnt seem to change much.

So 2 out of 4 years? Losing at home? 50% getting knocked out at home for the Bearcats. Which means the same for the visitors changes of winning. Granted it does seem to happen in a later round than this one.

My math comes up with a 6-2 record at Home for the Playoffs. But it ain't rocket surgery.

In terms solely of where BC ends their playoff run is equal home and away.

Ok. Then when BC plays a playoff game against a good team at home. They lose. In the past 3 years or so

Wow, I dont know if I watch a soccer game or not but if Brookland Cayce goes on the road, game over... Hard fought match, home field advantage included the REFS, poor job by the officials, half the game include long throw ins, maybe B/C recruited refs, I don't know, great game

Irmo 5, Mauldin 0... Wow who scored all of those goals?

Anyone know what time the games saturday are?

So, what is this that I hear that there were red cards thrown at the DF Mann game? Anybody know what went down?

A player from Mann was on a break away and a DF player grabbed his jersey and flung him around to the ground and a player from the mann bench ran over and the player that ran over and also the Df player were given red cards

The referee was in total favor of JL Mann. There were two incidents where JL Mann players grabbed a DF player from behind and threw in on the ground and where they shouldered a Df player when out of bounce. The referee clearly saw it. Then the ref give Df a dissent card when Mann cried the complete game about calls. Because the two fouls were really called, the red card really should have been a yellow card. And not to include the referee didn't even have a badge on. There were many incidents where there was pushing and almost fighting and the referees did nothing to control the game. Absolutely poor. Disappointment on who decided the referee because he did truly lose the momentum and possibly the game for DF. And no, I'm not a DF nor Mann supporter, just coming from a neutral standpoint.

Eastside v South Pointe


Well played game by all. The fans were great, dueling the entire night. This is how soccer should be.

Long game, even the ref cramped.

So if your team looses then it's the referee's fault it they win it's a team effort. Yes there are some good referee's out there and some not so good. We all complain about the bad one's but rarely say anything about the good ones. Let's take into account a few things.

High School has rules
USSF has Laws

High School has been modifying there rules to move closer to the USSF Laws which is a good thing but needs more work for sure.

The size of the fields and conditions of the fields are poor at best for soccer!
Example drains grates on the field, little to no grass, holes everywhere, and they are crowned not flat. This is not every field but covers most of them.

Most of the referee’s don’t referee for a full time job.

So why does one decide to become a referee? Read the article below.

Look at the facts. We are an endangered species. More than half million of us worldwide; dying out like dinosaurs of a bygone age. Our demise is largely due to our own folly for we suffer the cruelty of human nature from the very people we help add sunshine into dull lives. We put up with insults, abuse, threats and assaults. We are spat upon, ridiculed, shot at, and sometimes murdered.

Trained experts in our field, we are the targets for the masses who protest, contest, accuse us of corruption, racism, being pawns of the mafia, power crazy despots, and worse.

No, we are not politicians. We are soccer referees.

According to verbal taunts from the touchlines we are the lowest form of human existence, illegitimate offspring of unmarried parents, fair game for insults and humiliation. Surely no intelligent person would want to be so despised by fellow citizens. So, why do we do it? Can we be so dumb? Are we all nuts?

Who are we? Doctors, engineers, teachers, lawyers, scientists, experts in our chosen occupations that demand personal commitment, study, hard work, formal training and responsibility. All require effective management and communication skills. Experience of life, maturity and integrity are other qualities evident whenever referees meet.

These are intelligent and successful people, hardly compatible with the “mental defectives” targeted by moronic verbal missiles launched from touchlines.

At pro-level they are also the most visible officials. The real heroes are the thousands of solitary guardians of discipline at grassroots level who have little chance of reaching the top. Such men and women, who devote a large slice of their lives in a referee’s role, contribute an invaluable service to the community. So, why aren't we loved?

New recruits to refereeing soccer games face a steep learning curve. The rule book only scratches the surface of a real game; played at speed with tough physical contact between competing athletes. It delegates responsibilities and supreme powers to the referee. He is a complete judicial system on legs. He detects the crime, makes the arrest, deliberates as the jury, announces the verdict, passes sentence as the judge, and carries out execution – all in a split second – hundreds of times in 90 minutes. Some task!

With this job description a soccer referee needs the ability to think fast on his feet; make quality judgements and correct decisions in emotionally charged situations; plus streetwise wisdom to apply justice with tact and diplomacy. Hard experience of officiating many games at various levels hones the desired qualities for disciplined and fair interpretation of the rules of play on the field.

Reflecting on my own commitment to soccer, the questions flow. Why did I choose to officiate as a referee? Why have I exposed myself for years to the ever present atmosphere of grudging acceptance; to ridicule and humiliation; bearing the incessant verbal, and sometimes physical, abuse of players and fans; enduring the minimum of facilities, washing in buckets of icy water on a bleak winter's day?

Why have I devoted an important part of my life trying for perfection as an arbiter; working hard to achieve a good level of fitness; accepting the inconvenience of time away from home and career? Why? What was the purpose?

Why do others indulge in a hobby where we blow whistles and wave tiny colored flags. Are they nuts, too? Is it for the money? How many have made a million as a soccer referee?

Common answers include “I do it for the love of the game.” “I want to give something back.” “I enjoy being involved.”

For me it goes deeper than that. Yes, a major attraction was to be active inside the play, the next best thing to actually kicking the ball. I was part of the theater of sport, playing a role which was positive and satisfying.

But, I realize now that, during 25 years serving as an official on the field, I was hoping for a dream to come true - a dream where every soccer match is played to the highest ideals of fair play: where the players, guided by moral and physical disciplines written into wise rules, combine individual skills in an athletic ballet of spectacular movement and color; where they express emotions of excitement and joy for themselves and for those who watch.

I wanted to relive all of those wonderful moments of elation I felt as a boy with a ball at my feet.

In reality, every cynical foul, every attempt to cheat, every act of disrespect for the game and its disciplines, spoiled that dream; felt like a knife in my flesh, drawing blood and staining my vision of the purity of sport. I know that dream was naïve but, together with fellow referees, I tried to limit the degradation of a healthy sport by thoughtless players and fans who do not share my degree of passion.

Although my dream has rarely been realized I look back on my years as an active referee with satisfaction. I learned much about myself; about latent convictions; accepted responsibilities and developed attributes that served me well through life. In my own country, and many others in the six confederations of FIFA, I learned much about people and feel privileged to have met, and shared my love of a special sport, with a unique brotherhood of honest men and women from all walks of life.

An endangered species we might be but we’ll never be extinct. We can never be replaced by robots, which could possibly impose the rules of play by computers. But without human heart judgement and streetwise justice our sport would become an arid emotional desert.

Referees will continue to rock on an emotional see-saw, one day ready to pack it all in, and then feeling an irresistible surge of adrenalin before the next match. It is an obsession which yields more satisfaction than frustration.

After this heart searching and mental agonizing I ask myself the final question, "Would you do it again?" Without hesitation I get the stupid answer "YES, SIR!"

OK, so I'm nuts, too!

So I challenge you if you don't like what the referee is or is not doing and you feel you can do a better job then I invite you to join the bunch of nuts you are complaining about and then your eyes will see things from a different point of view. Will all the call be right NO will all the call be wrong NO but if you don't know the Laws of the game or the rules then learn them and come join us on the pitch.

Cheers

I like that nukeworker...so, how is the VC Summer plant today?

Streetwise justice? SCHSL officials? You are kidding, right?

Besides, any idiot can memorize a rulebook. That's NOT the problem. The problem is a shortage of proven, level-headed officials who have the anticipation, fitness and work ethic to keep up with 18-year-old sprinters making 70-yard runs, combined with above-average judgment in dealing with overheated adolescents, some of whom are coaches. Thankfully, the problem is mitigated (somewhat) at this time of the year by an ever-decreasing slate of games. The only problem is the slots filled by those "old hands" who are surviving on seniority and reputation alone. And they know who they are.

@nukeworker, I didn't read the complete article so my mistake if I contradict something or whatever. But by your statement, I take it you were not at the game. Again, I was not in favor of any team but when a referee fails to give a card or better yet, a FOUL when somebody is tossed and shouldered out of play, there is a problem. When I see players hitting each other for no reason, there is a problem When players complained the entire game and the card was given to the team that barely talks, there is a problem. When the referee doesn't even have a certifaction badge on, there is a problem. This referee had no idea what he was doing. When the third and fifth team go at it in state, a referee with experience needs to ref. Not a 24 year old. It's simple. Piss poor

I'm all for a physical game but some need to learn how to control the game.

YA BETTA KNOW THE SCHOOL SONG OR THAT'S 10 DAYS SUSPENSION EACH!

While I agree, a referee SHOULD be able to control a match, the ultimate controlling factor SHOULD be the coach. He/she should discourage dirty, unsportsmanlike play; recognize potential problems and substitute accordingly; and generally defuse negative situations.
Many coaches don't. They lose their "s**t" as quickly as the kids, and model poor behavior.

James great and Backscreen17 you are right on target and SCSOCCER3 you to are right but at the end of the day until we have some type of promotion type of system where the HS referee's are mentored and assessed by a qualified assessor then you gonna have those type of matches. Now with that being said even a good referee has a bad game from time to time. So I invite you to come be apart of the crew and help make a positive change for the better of the game.

From what i saw of last nights game DFs forwards and midfielders grabbed the jerseys of Manns players much more frequently. And the incident where the red card was pulled was a good choice. Referees aren't perfect, but the DF player slung the Mann player on the ground after the call. So he deserved the red card.

Northwestern will beat JL Mann. Mann has no passion or work ethic. They're just a bunch of individual players, not a team.
You shall see!

@ Fabregas, No, JL Mann will dominate Northwestern. DF beat NW in the year when Df was just becoming a team. Mann easily played better than DF last night.

@Blazer, I take it your a JL Mann fan or your an absolute tard. The slinging to the ground was the foul and the red card, not after the play. Helps to pay attention. I don't know what game you were watching, but the captain, John Cajka, who should show great leadership was whining the whole time. The complete JL Mann team was grabbing and pushing at first. As a high school boy, of course the DF team will begin to start grabbing.

Wait, Wait, Wait, My mistake, Yes... DF was grabbing jerseys more.

BUT JL Mann was the one that were PUSHING, GRABBING, BITCHING, FLIPPING.

Your right, DF were holding onto jersey, but apparently now it's alright to take players out without playing the ball.

JL Mann shall dominate the game.

The fact you call out one player is straight Ignorant.

Sorry for calling one player out but from what I watched, it was not only Cajka, it was #1,#20,#7,#23,#15,#6,#14, and more.
I now know your clearly a JL Mann person now that you say he was being a leader because that is the worst leader I have ever watched in soccer. But then again you said you're not a complete tard, which in other words mean you're a "half-tard"

I don't have any sympathy for a complete dirty, uncontrollable team. JL Mann is pathetic as far as respect.
Nice try. Try again.

Seen worse teams, your probably just a jealous parent/coach/player whatever, who lost their playoff match and is taking it out on a clearly good team. Yes Mann has the occasional dirty game where they foul a lot, but what team doesn't?

Again, I have no association with either team, just a spectator wanting to watch a quality game. That did not happen. And both teams are clearly good teams. And yes, teams have dirty games but not like Mann. There are many rumors about Mann always being a dirty team and I forgot to mention on how they just "lost" Df's lineup.

I do not have any sympathy for a team like Mann when they play like that and everything associated with that.

I can't wait to make the drive down to Irmo to watch Mann get their asses handed to them. If Mann can give up 3 unanswered within that 20 minute period, imagine Irmo's advantage.

Now it's funny how to forgot to mention or comment back about the "tard" comment. Looks like your the "tard"

Don't fight a argument you can't back up.

Surprise. I saw it differently. Both teams gave as good as they got. A game that could have easily been controlled by throwing a couple of early yellows. But if you think that was bad go watch Irmo vs Clover. Someone please record that for us.

SCSOCCER3 again if you don't feel the referee's are doing their job correctly then come join the team and put up or shut up. Yes some let more go than others some let way less. I have covered DF team several games this year and there are a few players that try to push the limit (note that they will do what the referee will let them get away with so they are playing smart soccer. Note on that note I said smart not fair or good). You call this dirty soccer but it is part of the game. The referee should research the teams prior to the matches to see you the play makers are and who the problem one's are. This would give you as a referee an insight on how the match may start out and get you prepaired to handle the issues quickly. Now with that being said how can you find out about a team well one thing is here on the board, call other referee's that have worked one of the teams matches, talk to other coaches. It's not that hard to get some information. Bad calls, no calls or what you as a fan/team supporter is a bad game may not be a bad game. Too many times I hear the same types of comments and the players on the pitch would say "I wish they would just shut up, they don't know what they are talking about they are stupid and don't know the rules". Take the time to learn the rules and or Laws of the Game this will ease your pain. Love the game, get involved, and don't be the turd in the crowd. Remember it's a game for the players to showcase their skills for the enjoyment of the supporters. Cheers

@Nukeworker, I take it you were probabally the referee that game. Also, what other games have you referee'ed DF? You say dirty soccer is part of the game, never I once seen this year people getting grabbed out of bounce and tossed, or when the ball rolls out, them getting tossed. There is a difference between dirty tackles in play and out of play. I'm harping on the out of play ones and how someonebody can not control it. Not to include everything else I've said before.

So explain to me why the referee didn't even have a badge on? Doesn't that immediately show more preparation? Having a 24 year old ref? Doesn't that show to the players that you can get away with some stuff since they don't call much.

I'm not only specifically talking about this game, but in general.

Also if you want to be a smartass on kowing the rules, I have been a referee before and know the rules. Nice Try.
I'll give you a round 3 now.

THE DUMB SH*T HAS GOT TO STOP SCSOCCER3!

SCSOCCER3 to answer your question:
No I was not at the match you are referring to.
Several during the regular season.
And no I never said that dirty soccer is part of the game go back are reread the post.
Yes there is a huge difference between tackles on and off the pitch and should be dealt with under the rules of the game for High School.
The badge thing, here is a question for you did they have it on before the match started? It may have been knocked off during play as I have seen that before happen. But I always have a spare but this is one thing that should not be forgotten and when noticed should be corrected. Take last year at the 2A state finals the two AR's didn't have the badge and one didn't have his boots. So things happen.

I'm not the smartass as you have indicated I am just inviting you to either get out there or stop your complaining. If you were a referee why did you stop? Did you do High School, USSF, College, Pro, Indoor etc.

I'll make sure to post when the next certification class is being held so that you may attend if you care to be the bigger person and help make a positive difference for the good of the game.

But here is a comment for your SCSOCCER3 about a 24 year old doing a match. He at least, more than likely can type complete a sentence with a complete thought that makes sense. You might want to us a grammar checker before you post your rants I just saying.

Now to the good stuff the winners for today's matches

4A
JL Mann
Irmo

Fort Dorchester
Wando

3A
Fort Mill
Eastside

BC
Hilton Head

2A

Broome
Indian Land

Academic Magnet
Bishop England

Safe to say Irmo is no longer a soccer power? JL Mann and Wando seem to be the big boys these days.

Not surprise that irmo choked AGAIN. Also, JL Mann is not a soccer power, never have been.

Has*

Its not that irmo isnt a soccer power they are, clover has heart. Keep hating on Clover you will get to know them soon enough. You soccer experts posting are funny, I wouldn't call you all experts thanks for the 23 consecutive posts stating that IRMO WOULD WIN. Keep up with your great predictions, excellent bulletin board material.

Hello irmo student section at the game today..."you guys let your whole team down" please can it you are unoriginal, not funny and and embarrassment to your school.

I hear the grocery stores in Irmo are running a sale on Platinum blonde hair dye