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1forteam #159852 10/31/12 03:12 PM
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Never had a kid at CESA, though I do have one who was recruited to play there.
The primary reason he DIDN'T wind up there is geography. The secondary (related) reason? Because CESA's Lowcountry training option was laughably bad. It was essentially co-ed kick-around. Simply not good enough.
The truth is, there is no single best way to get to a "top tier" program. The only requirements are "X" amount of physicality, opportunity, access to high-quality training, and willingness to work/learn. The rest is smoke and mirrors put forward by self-serving club directors and coaches, and parents whose beverage of choice is comes in a smiley-faced pitcher.

1forteam #159853 10/31/12 05:15 PM
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SCUMP played AF in the tournament and went to PK's, we all know how PK's go. You can be the #1 GK in world and still lose in PK's, its not skill its luck. A PK win does not always favor the best team. Ask Hope Solo. Anywho... I am not saying the SCUMP team is bad, actually they have always been CESA's best competition, I am saying that ECNL play is a whole different ball game than playing in state league and premiere league,you can sub in and out versus the sub rules in ECNL, it is a total game changer. THE CESA 98 team, won Disney, won Aiken, won State and now they are playing at the next level. Why is that bad? We are all entitled to our opinion and I find it very flattering that you guys are so concerned about our soccer club. Pearse and Andrew are doing a great job! We are all very happy to be part of the ECNL program for SC. I know for myself and my child we are well on our way to a college of our choice under the training and direction we are getting. We already have National recognition!




OK Disney and State good. Your thumping your chest about the Aiken Cup?

Chantman #159854 10/31/12 05:34 PM
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Well I have to when I can! Ha! Proud of our girls....

1forteam #159855 10/31/12 05:40 PM
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Love the Hope Solo reference. Why would I ask an attention-seeking, me-first diva ANYTHING? (Other than the price of a lottery ticket after she morphs back into a convenience store clerk.)

1forteam #159856 10/31/12 06:19 PM
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Well I have to when I can! Ha! Proud of our girls....




I understand.

Chantman #159857 10/31/12 07:20 PM
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Like her or not they say she is the #1 female GK in the world, my point was not about "her" personally it was about pk wins are not always to the best team..

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Are they arrogant? That debate has been on this Board for years.



Bomber, I think I missed those debates. Who took the "CESA as humble" side?

DeltaDog #159859 11/01/12 10:24 AM
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Are they arrogant? That debate has been on this Board for years.



Bomber, I think I missed those debates. Who took the "CESA as humble" side?




Harry, JAK and upstatesoccermom.

Probably 1for would also.

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Humble? Nah.
From an honorable opponent's perspective, I'd say that CESA has a moderately inflated opinion of itself. (Who DOESN'T?)
That said, it's still a legitimate option for Midlands and Upstate kids. I certainly wouldn't travel 200 miles each way for its training however.

1forteam #159861 11/01/12 02:31 PM
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I did not realize that SCUMP had an ECNL team??? They could not beat CESA for the State Champ so how are they beating AF ECNL?




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We are all very happy to be part of the ECNL program for SC.




ECNL isn't related to state championships, you don't represent SC as a state champion in ECNL. Some states have several clubs in ECNL. You're just playing in another league where, unfortunately for your daughter's ECNL team, state championships are now a thing of the past.

Claim of "top" or "best" team in/from SC for ECNL teams now becomes a matter of debate based on comparison of results against common opponents. Which is what the poster of the SCUMP vs. AF result was doing.

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