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Looks like Coach Greekopolis and his Lady Mann bunch must be proud of themselves by delivering a 19-0 thrashing to Laurens.
I checked a few other scores and it looks like some Coaches and teams do still have some Class by not running it up against obviously inferior opponents.
Remember Coach G and the "Lady" Manners, what goes around, comes around. It may not be today, or even tomorrow, but it always usually does.
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They're not giving me any help. What I can say is the obvious. Coach has major issues and its a shame. Great girls having a great season and now will be booed at every playoff game. No defending this; not even with sarcasm.The old Mann would score 6 and start using left foot and score only on crosses. Then play with 8 in second half
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Lets look at the positives. Its only a goal every 4.210527 min which is less than basketball. They are scoring 7.8 goals a game which is less than lacrosse. The game was tied for the first 2 min and the weather was nice.They have to be tired so Christ might be able to take advantage of that tonight and Hanna is still on the schedule.
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Why stop at 19, 20 is a nice round number. Heck, let everyone on the roster score. Anyone know what the players think about scoring so many?
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May have answer shortly but can I even post that answer. Ummm
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There is no excuse for that type of blatant "running it up".
And it's not the first time for Mann this season.
Maybe this new Coach thinks he has to prove something.
Well he has, he has shown no Class and/or Dignity.
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I know for a fact that some of the players are not comfortable with this situation but in the end its the coach who sets the tone and game plan. I guess its too much of a risk for a player to speak up or go against coaches wishes. That would explain why the Rutgers basketball coach is still alive. Hard to believe that a parent or AD hasn't said something to him.
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I know for a fact that some of the players are not comfortable with this situation but in the end its the coach who sets the tone and game plan. I guess its too much of a risk for a player to speak up or go against coaches wishes. That would explain why the Rutgers basketball coach is still alive. Hard to believe that a parent or AD hasn't said something to him.
It just shows the class of the Coach,AD, and parents for Mann. Great lessons to be taught to the kids. The game should be respected. They are showing no respect for the game, the other team, the other parents,etc. Not sure what they think of themselves. How do you look at yourself in a mirror after doing that, I will never know.
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Took this pic of you guys at some JL Mann games... 
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I know for a fact that some of the players are not comfortable with this situation but in the end its the coach who sets the tone and game plan. I guess its too much of a risk for a player to speak up or go against coaches wishes. That would explain why the Rutgers basketball coach is still alive. Hard to believe that a parent or AD hasn't said something to him.
It just shows the class of the Coach,AD, and parents for Mann. Great lessons to be taught to the kids. The game should be respected. They are showing no respect for the game, the other team, the other parents,etc. Not sure what they think of themselves. How do you look at yourself in a mirror after doing that, I will never know.
Chill. Its not end of world. Just girls soccer. Tomorrow another day.
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Thats me on the left. Dont remember when it was being taken but by the background it must have been in Clover
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AS Steve Spurrier once said, "They can call us many things, but they can't call us losers."
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Beautiful. I have a child playing soccer at a small school. They don't win alot but the games are competitive. There are 3 or 4 games a year when they get their butts handed to them and they walk off the field moaning but they don't complain about the other team running it up. They know if they don't like it; then get better. Run a extra lap, work on your strength and skills on the weekends. Put the extra time necessary to improve or just enjoy the game and the other things college has to offer. So if anyone gets a chance to run it up on Mann; do it. They only have themselves to blame. Also to quote Spurrier " Its not my job to stop us" Everybody seems to have a particular number in their head and once it reaches that number the team needs to stop. The coach has a game plan and at the end of the year he can decide if he needs to change his plan. "Stay classy San Diego"
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AS Steve Spurrier once said, "They can call us many things, but they can't call us losers."
Keep in mind, this is high school soccer. None of these coaches gets paid what Spurrier does, and they aren't likely coaching anyone with the potential of playing beyond college. It's girl's soccer and we all have to realize that the coach, the players, and the parents are a reflection of the school. In this case the talent of this team is overshadowed by the scores against the weaker teams.
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AS Steve Spurrier once said, "They can call us many things, but they can't call us losers."
Keep in mind, this is high school soccer. None of these coaches gets paid what Spurrier does, and they aren't likely coaching anyone with the potential of playing beyond college. It's girl's soccer and we all have to realize that the coach, the players, and the parents are a reflection of the school. In this case the talent of this team is overshadowed by the scores against the weaker teams.
What is it you are trying to say?
The school Mann, is made up of a bunch of jerks?
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AS Steve Spurrier once said, "They can call us many things, but they can't call us losers."
Keep in mind, this is high school soccer. None of these coaches gets paid what Spurrier does, and they aren't likely coaching anyone with the potential of playing beyond college. It's girl's soccer and we all have to realize that the coach, the players, and the parents are a reflection of the school. In this case the talent of this team is overshadowed by the scores against the weaker teams.
What is it you are trying to say?
The school Mann, is made up of a bunch of jerks?
Not at all. Look at the Mann threads and the comments which are directed at the coach, the school, the players, and the parents. Do you not agree that what this group of girls has accomplished and will accomplish this year is being overshadowed by 19-0, 14-0, 12-0 scores against weaker teams? The reality is, in high school sports, strong teams play much weaker teams, and the way they handle those games can create controvesy (how many Mann threads do we have on this now? Three? Four?). Mann played Christ Church last night and won 2-0. Yet, I haven't seen that mentioned. Instead the comments about running up the scores continue. This is a very good team. They may well be the 4A State Champs and will be the team to beat for the next several years.
Knowing some of these girls, I hate to see that comments have been directed at them. Their coach has made the decision to score as many goals as they can, which is his choice, and the players have no part of that, yet there have been some negative comments about them.
Go back to any of my comments about this topic and tell me where I've once said the school, the parents, the players or the coach are "jerks".
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Yes. But Wando 14-0,13-0,11-0 is not. Dutch Fork 15-0,13-0 is not. BC 10-0,11-0,10-0 is not. South Aiken 14-0,12-0,16-0,10-0 is not. Shall I continue.? These girls are on an island by themselves. No student support. Playing under the shadow of the boys team. The only time students come to a game is if you make it to the state.Nobody from Mann reads these post nor care what MT4ME or bomber says. A coach and a couple of players do not reflect the school. They reflect themselves. Sure you want to represent your school in a positive way; but if nobody is there and the paper doesn't report it I guess it never happened. It will be a great 3rd round matchup with Riverside in the playoffs and will be something to watch.
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AS Steve Spurrier once said, "They can call us many things, but they can't call us losers."
Keep in mind, this is high school soccer. None of these coaches gets paid what Spurrier does, and they aren't likely coaching anyone with the potential of playing beyond college. It's girl's soccer and we all have to realize that the coach, the players, and the parents are a reflection of the school. In this case the talent of this team is overshadowed by the scores against the weaker teams.
What is it you are trying to say?
The school Mann, is made up of a bunch of jerks?
Not at all. Look at the Mann threads and the comments which are directed at the coach, the school, the players, and the parents. Do you not agree that what this group of girls has accomplished and will accomplish this year is being overshadowed by 19-0, 14-0, 12-0 scores against weaker teams? The reality is, in high school sports, strong teams play much weaker teams, and the way they handle those games can create controvesy (how many Mann threads do we have on this now? Three? Four?). Mann played Christ Church last night and won 2-0. Yet, I haven't seen that mentioned. Instead the comments about running up the scores continue. This is a very good team.
Knowing some of these girls, I hate to see that comments have been directed at them. Their coach has made the decision to score as many goals as they can, and the players have no part of that, yet there have been some negative comments about them.
I will agree with you Mann appears to be quite good. To beat Mauldin, CCES, I believe Hanna, yes you are good.
I am surprised parents or even more so, the administration at Mann has not addressed the "run up" issue.
From what has been posted, some of the players are not happy about, they are in a difficult situation.
One team in the Upstate that is highly ranked, played a team that has maybe one win, the Coach of the highly ranked team only allowed 6 goals. Could they have put 10, 15, even 20 on them? Probably. But really, let's show some class.
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Yes. I can always pick out the club coaches. Something the SCHSL can look into is club tournaments. These tournaments only count a maximum of 3 goal differentials to determine tie breakers. Nice way to encourage keeping scores down. SCHSL uses a total goals minus goals against with no cut off. Of course this is the same board who make games go to pk's during regular season matches and jv play overtime. One year Mann got a 3 seed instead of a two seed because of this system. It came down to us beating Berea 9-1 and the other team beating Berea 10-0. We played with 8 in second half and no goalie the last 5 min. I would like to see some sort of mercy rule in place for soccer. Maybe cut second half to 20 min. I 've seen some crazy lacrosse scores. Wonder how that goes over with their fans.
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If that's you on the left, Mike W. must be in the middle and Mike K. on the right.
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I have tried to keep my silence but now that the “lashings” are directed towards the players and parents – it is time for me to say something. Yes, I am a JL Mann girls soccer parent. Yes, our girls are having a great season and yes they have run up the score pretty high in several games. This is the game of soccer and the intent is to get as many shots in the net as possible. I am not saying that I agree with running up the score, but to say that the players and parents have “No Class” is a bit ridiculous. Have you seen a JL Mann game lately? There aren’t many players that reach their hand out to another player from another team that just fell to the ground to help them get up (not in High School soccer anyway). I think I have seen that many times again and again this year with the JL Mann girls soccer team. I am pretty sure that the parents keep the cheering, clapping and whooping and hollering to a bare minimum once the score hits about 5-0. These girls have worked too hard this year to get “beat down” because they are playing the game of soccer and doing a pretty good job at it. You ask any of these players and they will tell you that they have never trained or worked as hard as they have this year. They are doing nothing more than playing the game of soccer and following direction by their coach. As a parent – I have learned long ago that you don’t tell a coach how to do their job just like a coach doesn’t tell a parent how to do theirs. I may not agree with the coach’s methods or decisions – but it is not my place to tell a coach how to do their job (unless it is physically or mentally hurting my child). If the school administration feels it necessary to address then so be it. I think the questioning needs to start with why in the world you would split Regions out so unfairly. I think all of your complaints need to be directed to those that make those crazy decisions. If the roles were reversed and my child’s team was getting the score run up on them – I would be telling my child “looks like you need to work a bit harder if you don’t’ want that to continue”. I certainly am not going to put blame on the other team for doing what it is they are out there to do – which is score goals and win games. Since when is that such a crime. In support of our new coach – he came into a very difficult position this year in having to take over a team that has been through a lot over the past few years and was at the point of giving up and “throwing in the towel” to high school soccer at the end of last year. This team has had a lot of talent over the years and due to reasons out of their control were not able to utilize that talent to its fullest potential. This coach’s leadership, guidance and direction has brought the passion back to this team and has instilled a high level of work ethic, integrity and respect for themselves, their team mates, their coach, their parents and for their school. You don’t beat teams like TL Hanna, Mauldin or Christ Church by accident. These wins have come because we have a great coach who is taking a talented team and showing them that with hard work and team unity – they can do great things. My hope is that this team continues to stay focused on the one GOAL that have for this year and that is to be in Columbia playing for the state title on May 17th.
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I failed to mention that I think starting and playing your 2nd and 3rd string players, putting your offensive on defensive and defensive on offense, having to connect 6-8 passes before shooting on goal, etc shows that you are doing things to try and not run up the score.
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You can try and justify it anyway you want, but top tier teams have dealt with this problem since the beginning of high school soccer, and I don't recall anyone running it up like Mann.
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For the record I remember Myrtle Beach Boys beating teams by 18+ goals when they were in a bad region back in the early 2000's. That was the worst I have ever seen. They had Busch, an exchange student from Germany, who they let score 7-8 goals per game. He had the national record for goals in a season for a while. Not sure how high he is now.
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There is no excuse for that type of blatant "running it up".
And it's not the first time for Mann this season.
Maybe this new Coach thinks he has to prove something.
Well he has, he has shown no Class and/or Dignity.
You reply to me, where did I say anything about the girls?
I still say your coach has no class, which Gwynne did!
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There is no excuse for that type of blatant "running it up".
And it's not the first time for Mann this season.
Maybe this new Coach thinks he has to prove something.
Well he has, he has shown no Class and/or Dignity.
You reply to me, where did I say anything about the girls?
I still say your coach has no class, which Gwynne did!
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I have tried to keep my silence but now that the “lashings” are directed towards the players and parents – it is time for me to say something. Yes, I am a JL Mann girls soccer parent. Yes, our girls are having a great season and yes they have run up the score pretty high in several games. This is the game of soccer and the intent is to get as many shots in the net as possible. I am not saying that I agree with running up the score, but to say that the players and parents have “No Class” is a bit ridiculous. Have you seen a JL Mann game lately? There aren’t many players that reach their hand out to another player from another team that just fell to the ground to help them get up (not in High School soccer anyway). I think I have seen that many times again and again this year with the JL Mann girls soccer team. I am pretty sure that the parents keep the cheering, clapping and whooping and hollering to a bare minimum once the score hits about 5-0. These girls have worked too hard this year to get “beat down” because they are playing the game of soccer and doing a pretty good job at it. You ask any of these players and they will tell you that they have never trained or worked as hard as they have this year. They are doing nothing more than playing the game of soccer and following direction by their coach. As a parent – I have learned long ago that you don’t tell a coach how to do their job just like a coach doesn’t tell a parent how to do theirs. I may not agree with the coach’s methods or decisions – but it is not my place to tell a coach how to do their job (unless it is physically or mentally hurting my child). If the school administration feels it necessary to address then so be it. I think the questioning needs to start with why in the world you would split Regions out so unfairly. I think all of your complaints need to be directed to those that make those crazy decisions. If the roles were reversed and my child’s team was getting the score run up on them – I would be telling my child “looks like you need to work a bit harder if you don’t’ want that to continue”. I certainly am not going to put blame on the other team for doing what it is they are out there to do – which is score goals and win games. Since when is that such a crime. In support of our new coach – he came into a very difficult position this year in having to take over a team that has been through a lot over the past few years and was at the point of giving up and “throwing in the towel” to high school soccer at the end of last year. This team has had a lot of talent over the years and due to reasons out of their control were not able to utilize that talent to its fullest potential. This coach’s leadership, guidance and direction has brought the passion back to this team and has instilled a high level of work ethic, integrity and respect for themselves, their team mates, their coach, their parents and for their school. You don’t beat teams like TL Hanna, Mauldin or Christ Church by accident. These wins have come because we have a great coach who is taking a talented team and showing them that with hard work and team unity – they can do great things. My hope is that this team continues to stay focused on the one GOAL that have for this year and that is to be in Columbia playing for the state title on May 17th.
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i'd give the mann team the benefit of the doubt regarding their scores v laurens. i've seen mann play several times this season when they've used restrictions or played with 9 or 8 field players to mitigate running up the score.
there must be more to the story...
and give them credit for finding good competition outside their region, and playing well.
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Thank the lord Mann kept the score under double digits. I get a break for a few days
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With the very "polite" 7-0 victory, perhaps Mann is now trying to win the highly coveted Sportsmanship Award.
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Hint coach. You score 15 and 19 goals on a team they will want to break your legs
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That was before we had scored...
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You haters need original material. This too many goals crap is exhausting.  
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Did anyone see it?
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Yes. But it was all Greek to me.
(Thank-you. I'm here all week)
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Passingthetime......Any word on that Wade Hampton Riverside game Friday?
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They don't communicate on the board anymore. Lucky to get scores. Riverside seems to be doing just enough this year. Wade hampton will be a nightmare first round for somebody.
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Which could be Mann. 1 seed in region 1 plays four seed in region 2. But 2 seed in region 3 plays best 5th seed. Why?
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You are correct. I was at the game and Wade Hampton possessed the ball about 65% to 70% of the time. Wade Hampton lost 4 to 3 with 2 of the 4 goals given up by goalie error...
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If Wade Hampton beats Byrnes Tuesday it looks like a Thursday showdown for 3rd at Dorman. They wiil start the Dorman game with about 2:50 remaining in the first half.
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I checked the records. Looks like Spartanburg, with just one conference game against Gaffney, will end up 7-7. Dorman and Wade Hampton are both 6-6 with two games to go. WH plays Byrnes and Dorman plays Riverside before they end the season playing the last half of a rained out game. What is the tie breaker if two or all three were to end up 7-7? Should be an interesting and exciting week for these three teams.
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Not sure how the Region II tie breaker is determined...
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Mann is proud of themselves. The goals have come from a well distributed bunch of classy girls. All the girls have stepped up to be a vital part of the team.
Just in case you can't look at other peoples scores and you are only fixated on Mann, Hannah and Wando both have 5 to 6 games each where they have beat people 10, 11, or 13 to 0. I believe that is running up the score also.
Another one of Steve Spurrier's comments after they booed him. " I didn't believe there was anyone left in the stands when we scored that last touchdown. It is just the way the ball bounces and the way the games are played.
You people that try to choose one school and run them down for finally having a lot of talent are just pathetic couch potatoes who probably couldn't connect a pass in your own back yard, much less in front of a crowd.
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Again. Not helping me. Its on like donkey kong. Here come the playoffs. May the best Mann win
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Mann is proud of themselves. The goals have come from a well distributed bunch of classy girls. All the girls have stepped up to be a vital part of the team.
Just in case you can't look at other peoples scores and you are only fixated on Mann, Hannah and Wando both have 5 to 6 games each where they have beat people 10, 11, or 13 to 0. I believe that is running up the score also.
Another one of Steve Spurrier's comments after they booed him. " I didn't believe there was anyone left in the stands when we scored that last touchdown. It is just the way the ball bounces and the way the games are played.
You people that try to choose one school and run them down for finally having a lot of talent are just pathetic couch potatoes who probably couldn't connect a pass in your own back yard, much less in front of a crowd.
Dude, try Hanna, not Hannah. I'll bet Mann is proud of you.
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