SC Soccer Forums SCSoccer.com Forums Boys Varsity Soccer What's up with the Rankings?

Again, I am not trying to offend anyone here. As a coach from a team that benefits from the system, you feel that I am complaining. I feel that I am criticizing the system because I believe that it needs to be changed. I want the rankings to promote the teams in the state. You do not have a problem because the current rankings promote YOUR team. I believe that the system is very political. I wanted to know how rankings were actually done. If all I wrote was: "How are the rankings done?" Nobody would respond to the post. I had to mention several situations that I believe did not make sense. Many players on weaker teams are over looked and a lot of players on good teams are over rated. I played high school soccer is SC. I also went on to play Division 1 college soccer. For the past 4 years I have helped a few high school coaches. I speak for the players and the teams that do not get the recognition that they deserve.

Let me "complain" one more time. You have claimed that you are intelligent and the reason that you are the #8 team in the state is because you are the 8th #1 seed. With that logic, teams 9-16 would all be the #2 teams in each region. I am not the smartest person in the world, but I do not think that ranking system would work. Not to mention that #2 Riverbluff and #4 Irmo play in the same region.

Perfect Kyle. Thanks for sharing the criteria. Makes much more sense now. Didn't know it was you and whomever "locally" who was maintaining the rankings. My assumption (wrongly it appears) was it was just some automatic formula from a distant website.

If you need info / polls next season moving fwds, myself and other coaches from the York County schools now in place (at least on the boys side whom I can speak for), will provide updates on a more regular basis to help the process. Pretty ambivalent to rankings in general but they are necessary and glad to help.

I wasn't complaining at the rankings system, just highlighting some of the observations made by OP in more detail and I hope it didn't come across that way. If it did, my sincere apologies.

I certainly appreciate the opportunity that this forum and scsoccer in general provides to keep abreast of all that is HS Soccer.

Cheers !

Graham Stafford
Clover

I have seen rankings in any sport on any level that make sense. The NCAA, a billion dollar industry, can't even get it right. If football and basketball teams that have every game televised.

I have no problem with the polls and the way they are done. If we aren't listed, we use that as motivation to work harder and if we are listed then we use that as motivation to stay there.

In the words of House of Pain "The cream of the crop rise to the top" I'll stop there because I like bacon....a lot!

well said

I will say this ... The more discussion on the message board about the quality of teams, players, regions, areas, etc. assists greatly in accurately forming the rankings. Also, teams that strive to upgrade their schedule by playing top teams in their area, via tourneys, or across the state help in validating their positions.

For example, too many times, we'll have a team at 14-1, but has played virtually no one of merit, while another team will be 9-6, but has played a very competitive schedule and tested themselves against top competition. This particular team has worked to market themselves for ranking consideration by playing tough opponents, rather than simply schedule for wins.

FWIW.

I agree whole-heartedly. I wish more coaches gave game summaries and stats with their score reporting. I enjoy reading them and yes it helps N/S and All-star committees make more informed decisions.

Ya know, I hadn't thought about this. From now on I'll post a small summary of our games in the report score threads........we also put all our players stats on MaxPreps as well.

Interesting to note that I have analyzed the Quarterfinals and the teams left in the Final Rankings from the Regular Season. For all of the hullabaloo it seems the Rankings are pretty accurate:

AAAA Boys
#6 Blythewood - #10 Mauldin
#3 JL Mann - #12 Dutch Fork
#2 River Bluff - #7 Socastee
#1 Wando - #4 Irmo
(4 of Top 5 / 7 of Top 10)

AAAA Girls
#1 Dutch Fork - #5 Dorman
#2 JL Mann - #9 Blythewood
#3 Lexington - Summerville
#4 Wando - #10 River Bluff
(5 of Top 5 / 7 of Top 10)

AAA Boys
#7 Chapin - #14 Berea
#1 Eastside - #9 AC Flora
#10 Aiken - #5 Hilton Head Island OR #6 St. James
#2 Brookland-Cayce - #3 Myrtle Beach
(4 of Top 5 / 8 of Top 10)

AAA Girls
#2 Dreher - #5 Seneca
#1 Eastside - #3 Chapin
#4 Hilton Head Island - North Myrtle Beach
#7 Brookland-Cayce - #6 Myrtle Beach
(5 of Top 5 / 7 of Top 10)

AA Boys
#4 Indian Land - #9 Pendleton
#5 Saluda - #6 Mid-Carolina
#1 Academic Magnet OR Woodland - #8 Wade Hampton (H)
#2 Bishop England - #3 Waccamaw
(5 of Top 5 / 8 of Top 10)

AA/A Girls
#1-1A Christ Church - #4-2A Woodruff
#3-2A Indian Land - #2-1A St. Joseph's
#1-2A Academic Magnet - #5-1A Governor's School
#2-2A Bishop England - #5-2A Waccamaw
(5 of Top 5 2A, 3 of Top 5 1A)

A Boys
#1 St. Joseph's - #4 Dixie
#2 Christ Church - #3 Brashier Middle College
#6 Governor's School - Charleston Charter
#7 Calhoun County - #9 St. John's
(4 of Top 5 / 7 of Top 10)