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#175284 - 07/25/18 05:15 PM CPL schedule
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I received one of my sons schedules for the fall, moving to the CPL is definitely a step up, but It didnít include all of the teams in the new league. Does anyone know how they decided which clubs you would play? Do you play the rest in the spring? Overall I am happy we will be seeing teams that we normally donít see. Fingers crossed for a good experience.

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#175290 - 07/26/18 09:51 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Our club is a member but I was told only one team will be participating in the CPL to see how it goes. Definitely disappointed our team wasn't the chosen one. Hoping club management change their mind.

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#175292 - 07/26/18 10:06 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Not sure what club your child plays for, but I noticed DSC has some teams registered for the Sandlapper league. I think some clubs are all in while others have only some teams entering.

I would think travel at those ages would be a concern for some of the clubs outside of the low-country. For example, DSC's closest CPL partners are CFC in Spartanburg and SCFCU (which does have a pile of teams) in Columbia.

Of course DSC is also listed as being in the Carolina Champions league (the only SC club in that US Club Pro league).

Like all new things, there will be kinks to work out.

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#175294 - 07/26/18 01:08 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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DSC also has their top u12 boys team in the SCYSC/Jim Hudson 9v9 league

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#175298 - 07/26/18 01:32 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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I know the Augusta Bulls 07 Girls will be in the CPL. Or at least their top team.

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#175299 - 07/26/18 02:02 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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The way CPL works at U11/U12 is depending on numbers and demand, you could have up to 5 divisions.

In order of difficulty (and to a degree stomach for travel)

STATEWIDE
PREMIER
CHAMPIONSHIP

CPL SOUTH (LOWCOUNTRY mainly)
PREMIER
CHAMPIONSHIP
LEAGUE


Younger groups (U8-U10) only have CPL SOUTH options (3 tiers max)
So you will get more diverse and higher level games in the Statewide divisions

We will be entering teams in pretty much every level so depending on clubs mass/talent/desire, you may see more diversity in certain pockets, and I'd guess mainly local in South League division
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#175301 - 07/26/18 02:46 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Thanks,,, that makes sense. I didnít realize they were having different levels within the CPL. He is playing in the statewide premier division,,,thatís explains why they arenít playing many of the local teams... thanks

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#175336 - 07/31/18 12:11 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Was surprised to see the prelim boys schedule and how few DISA teams there are. Plus, not a single one in the top two divisions in any age group. Odd as I always felt they had a number of stronger teams but maybe the new Battery club has pulled a lot of their players over.

Otherwise, looks pretty balanced and competitive. If a team is way out of their depth in the fall, it does not look like they can switch to a lower (or higher) division in the spring (unless I am misunderstanding something). That seems to be potentially problematic.

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#175337 - 07/31/18 12:59 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Clubs can work out any outliers and adjust.
But yes, could be a challenge, particularly in light divisions/blends where not a lot of depth for clean talent delineation.

My hope is that with local oversight and attention, we can respond quickly. It is in all our interest to make this the best it can be. Another challenge we have is that as a Club, we often add U8-U9 Junior Academy teams in the spring out of our feeder and local rec programs. How do they get taken care of?

Honestly I see a lot of juggling in year 1, but OK with that, as long as the balls stay in the air
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#175338 - 07/31/18 01:12 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Have the girls schedules come out? I would like to take a look at them.

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#175339 - 08/01/18 03:03 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Schedules are still being worked. I am not entirely sure what some folks have seen, but possibly initial brackets and layout/framework

Clubs have been submitting fields this week so exact dates/times/locations are certainly still in process. I expect a little more concrete review later in the week (Friday possibly)

Is there an age group you are particularly interested in? I'll see what I have (but full transparency we are just a member club and not working details). If I were you, I'd ask your club DOC or administrator.
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#175364 - 08/12/18 06:46 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Have the CPL schedules been completed?

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#175366 - 08/13/18 12:57 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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its not on the website yet, but I am assuming it has been completed. I have my sons schedule.

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#175367 - 08/13/18 05:09 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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I believe JIYSC and USAMP are complete as well.

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#175371 - 08/15/18 08:24 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Given the number of teams the midlands clubs have in the Jim Hudson 9v9 and Sandlapper leagues, it seems like the Lowcountry clubs are much more committed in their participation of CPL.

Sandlapper u11 boys has 21 teams, 14 of which are clubs in the CPL (15 of 19 for u10 boys). Are these teams playing in both leagues?

Coastal, on the other hand, has no teams that are in the CPL. Seems odd to me.

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#175372 - 08/15/18 09:00 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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The CPL may be a tool that GPS will use to assimilate Clubs into their program. If a club resists that....they may find it difficult to get anything good out of this league and just stick with the SC leagues.

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#175373 - 08/15/18 09:20 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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In Charleston area, CsPL a tool to keep kids u8-12 from a few clubs from having enough games in order to coerce parents of those kids into joining/staying at clubs that are in CsPL.

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#175374 - 08/19/18 09:38 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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I was incorrect about USAMP and possibly JIYSC schedules being complete unless they have been completed this weekend.

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#175375 - 08/20/18 06:16 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Our girls are in that sandlapper with only eight games. I would hope we would at least get a couple friendlies against CPL clubs.

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#175396 - 08/26/18 10:15 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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CsPL schedule is kind of out. Looks like scheduler having problems with the app.

http://events.gotsport.com/events/default.aspx?EventID=68209

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#175397 - 08/26/18 10:19 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Also looks like schedule goes thru spring season which I guess locks teams out of joining in spring.

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#175398 - 08/26/18 03:27 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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https://www.carolinaspremierleague.com/cpl-application.html

You may be right, but there is a link to apply for the spring. Do not know if it is still genuine though.

After looking at my sons age group, I noticed a few clubs lost teams. Tormenta has more teams than I realized.

I saw some teams that will probably switch divisions in the spring unless their rosters have really changed, because I can see a few mismatches. I think the Spring will be better once the kinks are worked out.

These teams will be very familiar with each by years end. Several of them enter the same tournaments and are placed in the same brackets.

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#175399 - 08/26/18 06:12 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Tormenta is likely just how USAMP is going to rebrand itself now that it is a Mount Pleasant cub in name only. The recently fabricated "Lifetime Development Pathway" will likely connect to Tormenta in order to compete with CBSC locally in Charleston area in a claim the club is somehow connected to a "local" pro entity. Because Savannah is more local to Charleston than Daniel Island i guess

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#175401 - 08/27/18 10:14 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: Shamrock Rovers]
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Originally Posted By: Shamrock Rovers
https://www.carolinaspremierleague.com/cpl-application.html

You may be right, but there is a link to apply for the spring. Do not know if it is still genuine though.

After looking at my sons age group, I noticed a few clubs lost teams. Tormenta has more teams than I realized.

I saw some teams that will probably switch divisions in the spring unless their rosters have really changed, because I can see a few mismatches. I think the Spring will be better once the kinks are worked out.

These teams will be very familiar with each by years end. Several of them enter the same tournaments and are placed in the same brackets.


I saw the Spring Application tab and was therefore surprised that the schedules went thru the Spring season too. Which makes it hard for any new teams/clubs to join or current teams to switch if they are mismatched in their division either high or low. I'm guessing teams were aware of this even it wasn't passed down to the parents.

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#175403 - 08/27/18 02:49 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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I'm sure some flexibility is built into the schedule, at least from the standpoint of moving teams. US Club soccer is still working to strengthen their footprint and have a vested interest creating a format that the clubs will want to continue to be a apart of.

The CPL is not so large that they can afford to hemorrhage multiple clubs, so I am sure some accommodations can will be made. In fact, the small volume of clubs is both its strength and weakness. Each clubs voice is considerable, but if a couple decided to walk away, it would struggle to survive in the younger groups.

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#175404 - 08/27/18 03:06 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Just noticed that Coastal has moved away from ages and has divisions of 7v7, 9v9, and 11v11.

Curious to see how that plays out.

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#175410 - 08/29/18 07:20 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Hearing the CPL schedule is complete for the year. That can't be true can it? Several teams are getting 11-13 games for the year. If true, that is not an improvement.

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#175411 - 08/29/18 08:42 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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The purpose of US Club Soccer is to help build clubs. The league is better for the clubs, not the players or parents. Increased costs? Check. Fewer home games? Check. Pay for play at its best.

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#175414 - 08/30/18 01:32 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Im kind of excited about fewer games that will now be more competitive. My youngest will finally be able to play quality games against kids his own age. CPL is a win in our book!

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#175415 - 08/30/18 02:36 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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The better teams that played up a year in Coastal will be playing less competitive games, the less better ones that played in their own year will play more competitive games.

So the teams

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#175416 - 08/30/18 02:36 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Still a few more edits coming so I'd monitor it over next few days before finalizing opinions on game numbers.

Personally I'd like teams to have a reasonable number each season (fall and spring). And depending on age and level, that might be different but in 7-10 range sounds about right for most.

Add a couple tournaments and a friendly or two and you are around 15 games.
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#175417 - 08/30/18 02:37 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Originally Posted By: scsoccerfan123D

So the teams


Disregard this part.

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#175418 - 08/30/18 05:09 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: Cainhoy Athletic]
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Originally Posted By: Cainhoy Athletic
Still a few more edits coming so I'd monitor it over next few days before finalizing opinions on game numbers.

Personally I'd like teams to have a reasonable number each season (fall and spring). And depending on age and level, that might be different but in 7-10 range sounds about right for most.

Add a couple tournaments and a friendly or two and you are around 15 games.


That sounds about right. I could see 8-10 games per season. Personally, I don't think the tournaments pluses outweigh minuses from a developmental standpoint, but that's what we do here in the U.S.


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#175419 - 08/30/18 08:12 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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I agree that less games is a good thing. Id say even fewer to allow for development between games instead of during games. Maybe 6-8 meaningful games per season against equivalent level opponents plus home/away tourny. Keeps costs and travel time low for parents and kids. Parents need to understand the money they pay is not a season ticket to weekly parental entertainment but a promise about their child's development.

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#175421 - 08/31/18 09:36 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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#175422 - 08/31/18 10:04 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Like school, games are the tests. Practice is the classwork/homework.

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#175423 - 08/31/18 03:01 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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While there is no substitute for an actual game, I believe at the younger groups, games should both enhance the experience for the kids, but also be seen as a tool to measure/evaluate live performance of training.

I think games every 2 weeks would be a sufficient gauge to measure past training and give focus on future training.

That said, many parents pay a lot of money, and I have heard some say things like, "11 games, that's about $100 per game." I am not sure how well it will be received to pay the same amount, or more, for fewer games.

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#175424 - 08/31/18 05:00 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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If you can't convince them otherwise (understandable), is there a YMCA or recreation program nearby for the parents that want games in lieu of of development?

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#175425 - 08/31/18 05:05 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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I say that because I want the parents to find what they want, not to be flippant about your situation.

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#175426 - 08/31/18 05:17 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Several more affordable options in the area. Summerville Y, mt pleasant rec some others. Cainhoy athletic is price competitive. Clubs, however, are not too interested in turning people away towards those options.

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#175430 - 09/04/18 06:58 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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Got this message today. A pleasant surprise.

The games for September 8 & 15 have been posted and added to your SportsEngine app. We hope to have the September 22nd games by the end of this week. As for the October 13 and November 3 dates, SCYSA has decided to wait to schedule these dates in order to ensure they are giving teams the most competitive matches possible and do not want to lock teams into matches that aren't close enough in skill to play.

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#175431 - 09/04/18 08:01 PM Re: CPL schedule [Re: mysonsdad]
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But wait lets schedule next year now. It saves admin costs for the clubs and the parents have already paid.

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#175432 - 09/05/18 07:57 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: Shamrock Rovers]
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Got this message today. A pleasant surprise.

The games for September 8 & 15 have been posted and added to your SportsEngine app. We hope to have the September 22nd games by the end of this week. As for the October 13 and November 3 dates, SCYSA has decided to wait to schedule these dates in order to ensure they are giving teams the most competitive matches possible and do not want to lock teams into matches that aren't close enough in skill to play.


I actually like this idea but I'm guessing that the 10/13 games will need to be in Myrtle Beach or somewhere outside of the LowCountry. Normally, tournament weekends (USA/MP) are blocked off due to lack of available referees. I know for the Open League that weekend was blocked off completely for scheduling.

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#175433 - 09/05/18 11:33 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: JenFal89]
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Probably so. I think some CBSC teams are playing in that USA/MP tournament (I believe CBSC is trying to build/maintain/repair local relationships - though I do not look for that to be reciprocated at their own tournament) and SCYSA alluded CBSC probably needing an additional date in their email.

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#175434 - 09/05/18 11:47 AM Re: CPL schedule [Re: Shamrock Rovers]
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Our team already needs additional dates as we are playing in the Rock Hill tournament this weekend and the USA/MP tournament in October. I saw on SCYSA that the games will be in Myrtle Beach and Walterboro on 10/13 and Summerville and Mt. P on 11/3.

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