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#175386 - 08/22/18 04:31 PM New USAMP Fields
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Does anyone know where the new USAMP fields and if there is progress on them?

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#175393 - 08/24/18 03:15 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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I believe the USA/MP site is in Awendaw just past the Sewee Outpost on the left off highway 17N about 5 or 6 minutes past Carolina Park.

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#175394 - 08/24/18 04:27 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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I remember that was what David thought but was looking for confirmation and possibly a more specific address. I drove past the area described and was able to identify any fields.

Do you (or anyone) have any idea if the capital improvements on the fields are underway?

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#175395 - 08/24/18 05:35 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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I do not. The only new fields in the area I have seen progress on are the CBSCs on Daniel Island.

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#175435 - 09/05/18 09:34 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Guerins Bridge Rd.

USA/MP expansion


Congratulations USA/MP.

Not a bad location and Guerins goes back through the woods, Halfway Creek Rd all the way to Clements Ferry (and miss 41)

Exciting times, looking forward to a game or three at the complex.

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#175437 - 09/06/18 07:56 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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I expect CASC will be playing some of their home games there once they are finished in 2019/20. That or build/utilize more fields in Berkley County (the area needs more fields, so good thing).

The reasons being: Town of Mt. Pleasant won't have much field time to offer with all the other MPRD needs and new external demands(like LAX); the rental costs will be high(they have been artificially low due to USAMP subsidies); and I assume a Berkley County org that frivolously sued the town and is offering the same service as MPRD will be last in line for fields.

That sounds harsh but is merely my opinion of the realities the club faces.

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#175438 - 09/07/18 10:29 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Not harsh at all, respect your view on the lawsuit.

Your post though does sound somewhat misinformed or odd with regard to our realities.

The reality is that since 2008 we have operated without MPRD (or USA) fields and have some good space for our membership (although not ideal). Any change occurring with MPRD and easing of access can only help us. The reason being anything is better than zero.

You may not know this we have an existing agreement (signed this summer) with MPRD that includes three fields and one being at Carolina Park.

I am not sure why the reference or assignment to Berkeley County is so relevant here. Our club office is centered in Park West, Mount Pleasant (Charleston County) and many of our fields are in Charleston County (that includes properties owned by the City and CCSD)

Back to the post, I'm hoping this new facility is included in one of the Leagues we participate in, and if it is, I'm sure using festival day formats, we will see some games there. Similarly I'd expect to see USA/MP play some of their games at Trident Academy.

We do have a desire to add fields (particularly larger ones) so stay tuned on that.
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#175519 - 11/09/18 06:51 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Looks like fieldwork has begun again on the Daniel Island fields the CBSC will use for some of the 2019 games in the Fall. It will be nice to have some additional fields the club and town can use. I was afraid any more of a delay would push the project back to 2020.

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#175520 - 11/09/18 01:15 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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That’s awesome. How many fields are they building?

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#175522 - 11/11/18 07:22 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Last plans I saw showed 5.

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#175667 - 01/10/19 12:54 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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I drove by Guerins Bridge road site for USAMP and it didn't look like any work had been done. Does anyone know if the plans to build fields there have been scrapped?

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#175715 - 01/22/19 08:14 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Meant to note that there is a for sale sign on the lot as well

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#175720 - 01/22/19 12:15 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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http://www.usamountpleasant.com/new-field-development-expansion-announced

Is this no longer accurate? Does this mean they plan to continue to use the same fields they are using now?

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#175724 - 01/22/19 01:49 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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I'm not sure. I heard USAMP leased the land but that was last summer. Maybe you can sell the land with a lease intact?

The "Executive Director" of USAMP told the Town of Mt. P they needed to extend the sweetheart deal on Mt P fields through June 2019 and that they were starting to build out the site last June(2018).

Maybe that is not the current site and it hasn't been announced. I don't see any evidence of work.

Also not sure how long after initial seeding you have to wait to play on a field. A quick look on the interwebs said anywhere from 6-12 months, but that seems to be geared toward northern states.

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#175996 - 03/05/19 01:06 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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USAMP request to be granted a variance to remove 3 live oaks from the Awendaw property was declined. In USAMPs words "Without the variances the project [will] not be able to proceed, leaving USA-MP without fields to continue to practice and competition"

Sounds like the competition for MPRD fields will continue to be robust, and due to this high demand, very expensive.

I hope the club communicates the increase in fees prior to the May evaluations.

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#175997 - 03/05/19 09:03 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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So with patriots going away, does that mean they only have Carolina park?

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#176000 - 03/06/19 06:17 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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They don't "have" Carolina Park. All fields will be open for lease/rental renewal to the awaiting market demands once the current contract is up. Everyone will be fight for those fields.

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#176007 - 03/06/19 11:18 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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https://www.charlestoncounty.org/departments/zoning-planning/bza.php

BZA-01-19-00308
BZA-01-19-00309

Make for a good read

Application letter dated 01/24/2019...………….hmm

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#176008 - 03/06/19 11:53 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Anyone know what the reason was for the 9+ month delay from the securing of the lease until the submission of the application?

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#176019 - 03/08/19 03:42 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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And the boards is dead again 🤦🏻‍♂️😂😂😂😂

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#176020 - 03/08/19 07:29 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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What does that mean?

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#176050 - 03/13/19 11:09 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Even if they started work today, I don't see how this complex would be ready by the fall.

In the letter, Matt (from USAMP) states- "This soccer complex is necessary to replace the fields that USAMP currently uses at Patriots Point in Mount Pleasant that the town has elected to not renew our lease."

What is/was the deal for the Patriot's Point fields? I knew they had a preferential agreement with the town, but I thought that was all it was. Not an exclusive lease.

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#176051 - 03/13/19 11:56 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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They had a 1 year "non-exclusive" contract with the town for use of some of the fields at Patriots Point and Carolina Park at a "below market" rate. I believe that CASC and a local lacrosse club were given similar contract rates for some fields. The fields will be available for any group to rent and rates will increase for next year (starts July 1 if I recall).

This was the second such 1 year contract and the town was reluctant to do it but USAMP said couldnt afford the fee increase in addition to the capital costs of building out the fields, which would begin last June. The town relented but, in order to be fair, they had to make the lower fees available to all groups that had requested fields(only CASC and lax).

The contract was never going to be up for renewal. I believe what Matt was reluctant to say is that USAMP can't afford the increase in field costs and therefore won't go into another contract with the town for the upcoming year.

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#176096 - 03/21/19 09:48 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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#176097 - 03/21/19 09:49 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Tough to square USAMP propaganda with the facts, but wanted to share it anyway.

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#176098 - 03/21/19 09:50 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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By propaganda, I mean "marketing"

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#176103 - 03/22/19 08:27 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Does this mean they are just doing 3 fields or did they get approval for the 4?

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#176104 - 03/22/19 09:21 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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USAMP did not get approval to remove the 3 trees they told the zoning board they needed to remove in order for the lot to work. That could have been hyperbole, given the source.

So they must now go with another field layout that can still fit 4 fields (seems unlikely given other grand trees on lot); go with 3 fields; or scrap the plan(seems unlikely since they just told parents they were moving forward with plan).

Using the original design picture as part of the update seems a bit deceitful, but I'm sure it helps the marketing.

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#176313 - 04/18/19 08:00 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Have any folks know what the status of the fields is?

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#176471 - 05/01/19 03:19 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Drove by the proposed USAMP field location in Awendaw again this week and still see no evidence of progress. Mr. Tunesi do you know if the fields will be ready by this fall for the leagues you participate in? I'd imagine these fields are necessary for CPL games to make up for the loss of so much Carolina Park and Patriots Point field access? Will this cause issues determining locations and scheduling for local games? Will this cause additional issues since so many out of town teams played in Mount Pleasant as "neutral" locations?

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#176472 - 05/01/19 03:31 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Sorry, I have no idea what USA/MP plans are. Or for that matter what will happen for CPL games if there are no good alternatives in MP.

I can say that we will make any fields under our control available for any competition we participate in including CPL.

I am not particularly concerned for CPL South local competition since that is mainly 7v7 and 9v9 and we have ample space for those games and I'd prefer Trident most days anyway. Actually I'd prefer it if we moved more to our sites and will put that request in.
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#176473 - 05/01/19 04:10 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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There were upwards of 150 games played by CPL teams on PP and CP in just spring of last year. On top of the plaued at Trident last spring, those Trident fields will get tons of use. Have you planned for additional maintenance of the grounds? Maybe lights? I hope it works out for the kids and parents.

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#176474 - 05/01/19 04:12 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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And those 150 games don't include USAMP games. Its just non-USAMP teams. Add in USAMP that's a tremendous amount of games.

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#176475 - 05/01/19 04:22 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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We do contract with TruGreen for our grass maintenance and very happy with the results. Thanks for raising that and offering my endorsement for their services for anyone that needs it.
And certainly will not want to overuse that one site.

We only hosted 15 games at Longpoint, one game on Trident #2, and none at any of our other sites (including Awendaw). So pretty sure we can host a few more games than we did in the spring.

I am comfortable taking more on our properties but will not suggest here that we will manage the entire shift or load of 150. I suspect USA/MP will have other alternatives as needed for their games, as we are making plans for expansion.

Our plans (projections) look like considerable growth in 2019 and we need to factor that in any and all our plans and will include new space.

No way we will put lights in at Trident. And why is that even an issue here in regard to CPL. We would not entertain or host any evening games for CPL that will require lights. Training always takes priority at our sites midweek evenings.

You should reach out to USA/MP to ask more about their plans.
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#176476 - 05/01/19 04:38 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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As always, thanks for the insight. I just wanted to gauge your understanding of the demand for fields for CPL and see if you knew what the solution will be.

Regarding lights, I was wondering if the games could be played into the night at Trident if needed. Sounds like no.

Best of luck with the new children in your care at Cainhoy next season. They are what is important and the reason some are concerned about the lack of transparency and decency amomg some in leadership positions local youth soccer clubs.

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#176477 - 05/01/19 05:18 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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No worries, I'm constantly in worry mode about fields and have been ever since we started.

I think I have made the point on here before and I'll reiterate it again as a parent and long-time participant in youth soccer on all sides.

Game location is not nearly as big of an issue as training. Key to keeping parents (actually just about everyone) happy in the lowcountry is less travel at 5.30 pm across 1-2 bridges and why most of our East Cooper teams would prefer a postage stamp size of grass in central MP than an acre in Awendaw or Summerville.
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#176522 - 05/03/19 05:27 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: Cainhoy Athletic]
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No worries, I'm constantly in worry mode about fields and have been ever since we started.

I think I have made the point on here before and I'll reiterate it again as a parent and long-time participant in youth soccer on all sides.

Game location is not nearly as big of an issue as training. Key to keeping parents (actually just about everyone) happy in the lowcountry is less travel at 5.30 pm across 1-2 bridges and why most of our East Cooper teams would prefer a postage stamp size of grass in central MP than an acre in Awendaw or Summerville.


Mount Pleasant field rental availability for fall 2019:

Mon - Thu - 2 fields
Friday - 6 fields
Saturday - 6 fields
Sunday - 6 fields

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#176523 - 05/03/19 05:28 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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I believe those will be split between at least 5 groups: LowLax, USAMP, CASC, CBSC and maybe a rugby group?

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#176524 - 05/03/19 06:14 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Ouch

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#176525 - 05/03/19 06:25 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Which Mt Pleasant fields?

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#176526 - 05/03/19 06:51 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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#176527 - 05/03/19 06:52 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Carolina Park and Patriots Point included

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#176528 - 05/04/19 10:42 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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We received our assignment yesterday at a high (complex) level.
Detailed exact field allocations will follow after MPRD completes its programming registration and scheduling (as appropriate and necessary).

Cainhoy Athletic thanks MPRD and the town for its consideration and accommodation to our 700+ town resident members and we look forward to continued growth and utilzing both Carolina Park and CW Flowers (Patriots) for a portion of our activities and programming this fall.
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#176529 - 05/04/19 12:18 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Is it at a high level(no details) or a low level(complex/with details)?

Does your secured field usage fall in line with the availability mentioned?

When will MPRD complete its programming and registration? August? September? What if their needs continue to grow in line with trends? Are there guarantees any field space will open?

Thank you for fulfilling the need of a low cost, volunteer-based youth soccer org in MP in the absence of MPRD.

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#176530 - 05/04/19 04:01 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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David I assumed you are secure with your Trident fields and that your Mt P field needs are only for games? You have the church field in Awendaw as well, right?

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#176531 - 05/04/19 04:12 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Enough detail to show evenings available and the complex (but not the exact field #). It appears to be inline with what was stated earlier in this thread. Enough at any rate to plan our fall training activities once we are through team forming activities. For us, this is an improvement over fall 2018

I imagine, like any municipality or government agency, MPRD will always have the right (duty) to limit space should their programmimg exceed reserved areas. This is is not any different than CCSD, BCSD, City of Charleston or any other adminitrative unit we work with (rent from). Similarly if one of our private landlords sold or found a profitable new use for the fields we have, we would similarly be in trouble. As would most other soccer clubs that do not own (outright) the land on which the lines are painted. Why I worry everyday about fields, and suspect most (all) other club admins do as well (if honest).

I have no idea when MPRD will finish their program registration and scheduling but shouldn't impact us unless we see that massive growth. But even then, if we lost everything, we'd only be back to where we were last year.

That last line is a bit odd, thanks for the gratitude, but probably only right that I correct that we provide a quality, affordable program to several communities, and like I stated before, not all are volunteers.

The guy that cuts the grass, technical directors, premier program coaches, and even a few of our junior academy ones (where we can't find qualified vols) receive varying degrees of comp. Unfortunatley not enough qualified volunteers to fill all the important parts.
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#176532 - 05/04/19 04:15 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Sorry, yes Trident is secure for years as are our other primary spaces.
We do also have field access in Awendaw that is rarely used but we are looking to revisit that.

We used to share it with OCA soccer (for training) and when we did, it was better mantained through regualr use, but we let it sit for a while. May pick it up again for 11v11.
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#176686 - 05/16/19 06:57 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Hearing that USAMP fields wont be ready for fall. Can anyone confirm and/or know where they will play?

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#176687 - 05/16/19 07:38 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Here is why they won't have Carolina Park and Patriots Point fields:

https://www.moultrienews.com/news/mount-...b6db2fadb2.html

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#176691 - 05/17/19 08:29 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Not exactly related, but on the facility subject. Today Cainhoy Athletic signed a long term agreement to continue our partnership with Mount Pleasant Futsal and continued/expanded access to the indoor and Park West facilities we have enjoyed for the last few years.

This will provide small sided turf, grass and indoor facilities year round and allow us to expand our micro academy program to include off-season training, clinics, and skills development for our youngest players under the direction of owner/operator, CASC USSF C licensed JA technical director, and State 2A champion coach, Andre Berenzon (Oceanside boys varsity soccer) and his staff.

Our East Cooper Micro and Junior Academy players can expect the very best of technical direction and skill development for years to come thanks to this new landmark deal and club milestone.
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#176695 - 05/18/19 07:23 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: Cainhoy Athletic]
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Originally Posted By: Cainhoy Athletic
Not exactly related, but on the facility subject. Today Cainhoy Athletic signed a long term agreement to continue our partnership with Mount Pleasant Futsal and continued/expanded access to the indoor and Park West facilities we have enjoyed for the last few years.

This will provide small sided turf, grass and indoor facilities year round and allow us to expand our micro academy program to include off-season training, clinics, and skills development for our youngest players under the direction of owner/operator, CASC USSF C licensed JA technical director, and State 2A champion coach, Andre Berenzon (Oceanside boys varsity soccer) and his staff.

Our East Cooper Micro and Junior Academy players can expect the very best of technical direction and skill development for years to come thanks to this new landmark deal and club milestone.


I had heard Andre put much-needed turf down in the sideyard of the hoops court. It tended to get muddy.

Does Andre follow a coaching curriculum for his JA coaches? How do you measure "the very best" training?

You note his USSF C license. What are the levels of your other coaches? Do they get ongoing coach training under the supervision of your DOC? What are her/his qualifications? Who is your DOC?

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#176697 - 05/18/19 09:37 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Will all the USAMP and Cainhoy CPL home games be played at the Trident Fields or behind the Baptist Church or are the JIYSC fields the home venue for all Charleston clubs now that CP and PP are not available?

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#176699 - 05/18/19 10:03 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Unless I misread the article, it looks like they are at Patriots point, the church, and the fields by OCA no?

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#176700 - 05/18/19 10:05 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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The article states CASC is also renting PP

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#176701 - 05/18/19 10:07 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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I guess worst case, both CASC and USA could use the cbsc fields since they won’t be using them....too soon?

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#176702 - 05/18/19 10:17 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Lol,,,, that was actually pretty funny... what are they building there? Offices?

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#176703 - 05/18/19 10:19 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: Chuck607]
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I guess worst case, both CASC and USA could use the cbsc fields since they won’t be using them....too soon?


You mean the MUSC fields? Or do you mean the five new fields in DI or the 7 fields in Summerville?

Thankfully CBSC didn't fall on their face in a neighboring town and have to scrap those their "complex" plans. Too soon?

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#176704 - 05/18/19 10:20 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: Chuck607]
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Originally Posted By: Chuck607
Unless I misread the article, it looks like they are at Patriots point, the church, and the fields by OCA no?


You misread it.

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#176705 - 05/18/19 10:29 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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And I'm guessing that the reason USAMP team fees are more than every clubs team+club fees combined is to rob Peter to pay Paul on that Awendaw debacle. Those poor parents.

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#176706 - 05/18/19 10:33 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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My understanding is that USAMP has 1 field to use at PP 3 days a week. That's only 3 teams unless you cram multiple teams on a field. Same at CP. No weekend time anywhere unless Trident or maybe Cario, if CCSD wants to deal with the headache that MPRD finally rid themselves of.

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#176707 - 05/18/19 10:36 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Oh yes the church pasture too. You can play there. I'd recommend taping the kids ankles though.

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#176710 - 05/19/19 04:55 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Again, do you feel better now SCSoccerFan123D? For all the adults on this forum, the stuff spewed by the poster who has to wake up every morning obsessing about USA/MP is complete and utter garage. I’m sure you already knew that!

To SCSoccerfan.. All I can I say is I hope you get some help, if your waiting around to cheer on the day USA/MP fails. I’d suggest another obsession because that day isn’t coming anytime soon. Be glad this forum is anonymous, your child actually stands a chance of being accepted back into the club when you come crawling back in the future, which is a real shame we could share the same sidelines!

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#176711 - 05/19/19 11:08 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: SoccerinLC]
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Originally Posted By: SoccerinLC
Again, do you feel better now SCSoccerFan123D? For all the adults on this forum, the stuff spewed by the poster who has to wake up every morning obsessing about USA/MP is complete and utter garage. I’m sure you already knew that!

To SCSoccerfan.. All I can I say is I hope you get some help, if your waiting around to cheer on the day USA/MP fails. I’d suggest another obsession because that day isn’t coming anytime soon. Be glad this forum is anonymous, your child actually stands a chance of being accepted back into the club when you come crawling back in the future, which is a real shame we could share the same sidelines!


USAMP is full of great parents and kids that deserve better than the decision makers at the top. I'd ask the parents not to believe me but to ask questions. For instance ask the club leadership what they have been doing with their fees since last June when the executive director told the TOMPSC rec committee they where breaking ground on the Awendaw fields in June. They just needed the 1 year extension to finish the fields. Expect similar lies and double speak in their answer to those and other answers, but ask. Its your money and you are their customer.

The folks who run the club look out for their own interest. Their interest is in maintaining power and money at all cost, even if it means backroom deals to keep 2nd graders from playing each other. My children won't ever play at a club with leadership like that and there are other better choices.

BTW If you ever hear a person say/type a form of the word "spew" than you know where the unhinged person is. You should stick to your voodoo references. Sure, you're the stable one.

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#176712 - 05/20/19 10:47 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Originally Posted By: scsoccerfan123D
My understanding is that USAMP has 1 field to use at PP 3 days a week. That's only 3 teams unless you cram multiple teams on a field. Same at CP. No weekend time anywhere unless Trident or maybe Cario, if CCSD wants to deal with the headache that MPRD finally rid themselves of.


There are going to be multiple teams sharing fields (at least that is what some parents have been told). Not great, but if it is the 7v7 age group teams it isn't terrible either. Works well for end of practice scrimmage, etc.

So I would assume that would be 6 teams.

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#176714 - 05/20/19 11:03 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: EastOak961]
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Originally Posted By: EastOak961
Originally Posted By: scsoccerfan123D
My understanding is that USAMP has 1 field to use at PP 3 days a week. That's only 3 teams unless you cram multiple teams on a field. Same at CP. No weekend time anywhere unless Trident or maybe Cario, if CCSD wants to deal with the headache that MPRD finally rid themselves of.


There are going to be multiple teams sharing fields (at least that is what some parents have been told). Not great, but if it is the 7v7 age group teams it isn't terrible either. Works well for end of practice scrimmage, etc.

So I would assume that would be 6 teams.


Currently, USA/MP has assigned coaches for 17 7v7 teams (9 boys and 8 girls). Also another 12 9v9 teams (6 and 6).

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#176726 - 05/20/19 05:42 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: Shamrock Rovers]
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Is there a possibility of multiple clubs training next to each other on the same night?

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#176728 - 05/20/19 06:26 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: Vic]
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Originally Posted By: Vic
Is there a possibility of multiple clubs training next to each other on the same night?


Why not? These clubs all get along so well.

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#176732 - 05/20/19 08:48 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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The silence on this thread from the otherwise vocal USAMP coices speaks volumes about the lack of a plan B for the Awendebacle.

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#176737 - 05/20/19 11:19 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: Shamrock Rovers]
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That will be better than tryouts! You get to compare trainings and pick your best option for upcoming season.

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#176738 - 05/21/19 07:09 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: Vic]
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Originally Posted By: Vic
That will be better than tryouts! You get to compare trainings and pick your best option for upcoming season.


For sure. Parents and kids will be able to see the clubs "Show their work". Thanks again to Coach Reed Maltbie for that mantra.

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#176739 - 05/21/19 08:18 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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That’s right John!

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#176740 - 05/21/19 08:24 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: SoccerinLC]
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Originally Posted By: SoccerinLC
That’s right John!


Are we playing a name guessing game or will we attend to the concerns presented in the thread?

Don't forget to use "spew".

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#176743 - 05/21/19 11:55 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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No guessing needed, just as there is no need to respond to your message board rumors beyond the clear statement that USA/MP will have game and training space for their teams next year.

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#176744 - 05/21/19 01:37 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Hmm. "Clear statements".

In May of 2018 there were some "clear statements" made at the TOMPSC Rec meetings by the Executive Director of USAMP. Here are a couple, as quoted from those meeting minutes from over a year ago, when he was pleading for TOMPSC to extend a contract until this upcoming June because there was not enough money to build the Awendaw complex AND pay higher field rental rates:

"[The Executive Director] said they are schedule to break ground sometime in June...they anticipate everything would be prepared a year from now. He said everything is a go and moving forward..."

"[the Executive Director] said that ultimately right now and the reason this is a critical extension [of the USAMP contract with TOMPSC] because [USAMP] need to be able to finish the complex. [The Executive director] said they are about to start and they will finish, and they will have a complex...”

As we now know, no ground was broken in Awendaw last June, or 2018 altogether.

The request for a zoning variance to remove the live oaks necessary to build 4 fields was not even filed with the Charleston County Zoning Review Board until January 28, 2019.

Additionally, in the application filed with the County, the Executive Director states "Reducing the number or dimensions of the fields would result in a non-compliance and make the project unviable." Evidently true to that statement, no ground has been broken to build even the 3 fields that the lot permits.

At no point did USAMP communicate these delays and possible lack of "viability" to parents at the club that pay their fees and expected to have the Awendaw fields to utilize next year.

So, whenever heads of USAMP try to bully; Or intimidate; or Or lie; Or sneak around from club to club to keep 2nd graders from playing games together in order to keep their "business" afloat, let’s be "clear". USAMP directors are not the ones that get to suggest to others they should be ashamed. And, for certain, they are not the ones that makes clear statements. Judging from documented history like above, perhaps not even truthful ones.

Parents (and coaches): this can all seem confusing and that's the last thing you need more of in your life. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Get specific answers. You are the customers. No youth club is perfect, but you have options. See the list of teams in the "tryouts" thread for the Charleston area. Find out the philosophy of the club and the plan for your child & your money before you accept any offers. Best of luck to all of your children.

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#176745 - 05/21/19 04:32 PM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Again a clear statement... USA/MP will have game & training space for their teams next year.

They haven’t lied or misled their membership as you’d like to suggest.

They aren’t the reason for your clubs short comings either.

Best of luck on your season in the CPDL!

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#176751 - 05/23/19 09:52 AM Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: SoccerinLC]
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Originally Posted By: SoccerinLC

They haven’t lied or misled their membership as you’d like to suggest.

USAMP misled/misleads its members. As they have misled the Town of Mount Pleasant. As they have misled the County of Charleston. Saying they haven't is at best... misleading.

Here's the facts & timeline on the example given in the prior post:

At the March 4th, 2019 Charleston County Zoning Board meeting, the County denied the variance to remove the Grand Trees that the USAMP executive director said was required for the Awendaw complex to proceed. To view the denial, as some already have, click this link:

https://www.charlestoncounty.org/departments/zoning-planning/bza.php

then scroll down to the drop-down box below "Meeting Minutes" and select "March 2019". Then scroll down to “CASE# is BZA-01-19-00308”. The final sentence is the denial.

Just two weeks later, on March 20th, the club put out an update to their field plans in which they told members:

"We are pleased to announce that our Club cleared its final hurdles with the Charleston County Board of Zoning Appeals last week to allow us to break ground on our field complex at Guerin’s Bridge Road, and we are excited to move forward with a planned opening of fall 2019!"

The link to that update is on their site, here:

http://www.usamountpleasant.com/new-field-development-expansion-update-march-20-2019

Judge for yourselves parents/coaches if you think that equates to misleading members. Were “final hurdles” cleared? What was “pleasing” about an outcome that denied the variance request to remove the trees when this meant, according to the executive director "the project would not be able to proceed, leaving USA-MP without fields to continue practice and competition"? They even put their field update under a picture of the denied field plans.

There are plenty of great parents and kids at all the local clubs, including USAMP. We are all 1 or 2 degrees of separation in this small community. Don't be afraid to stand up and ask questions of your club directors. If you are ignored, then ask parents at your club and other clubs about their experiences. You can still choose to stay at your club without fear of reprisal. Or you can just move to another club among the many local options.

Best of luck!

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#176754 - 56 minutes 41 seconds ago Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
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Did you read the information that you posted from the board? Confirmation Bias much?

It looks like they requested to trim and or remove some trees. The removal was denied and the trimming was approved. Then they asked to build a parking area and that was approved. So....it looks like they have a green light from the board to press forward no?

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#176755 - 4 minutes 21 seconds ago Re: New USAMP Fields [Re: Chuck607]
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Originally Posted By: Chuck607
Did you read the information that you posted from the board? Confirmation Bias much?

It looks like they requested to trim and or remove some trees. The removal was denied and the trimming was approved. Then they asked to build a parking area and that was approved. So....it looks like they have a green light from the board to press forward no?


I could be wrong Chuck, but I think one of the issues was that the three trees that could not be removed prevented the property from providing the the four field layout that was desired. It may have reduced the useable operating space to three fields. If so, the survey team would have gone back to determine the best arrangement of the space. It would then be up to USA/MP to determine if that was a viable layout that would meet their needs and if that would affect the value of the lease agreement.

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