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That’s right John!

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That’s right John!


Are we playing a name guessing game or will we attend to the concerns presented in the thread?

Don't forget to use "spew".

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No guessing needed, just as there is no need to respond to your message board rumors beyond the clear statement that USA/MP will have game and training space for their teams next year.

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Hmm. "Clear statements".

In May of 2018 there were some "clear statements" made at the TOMPSC Rec meetings by the Executive Director of USAMP. Here are a couple, as quoted from those meeting minutes from over a year ago, when he was pleading for TOMPSC to extend a contract until this upcoming June because there was not enough money to build the Awendaw complex AND pay higher field rental rates:

"[The Executive Director] said they are schedule to break ground sometime in June...they anticipate everything would be prepared a year from now. He said everything is a go and moving forward..."

"[the Executive Director] said that ultimately right now and the reason this is a critical extension [of the USAMP contract with TOMPSC] because [USAMP] need to be able to finish the complex. [The Executive director] said they are about to start and they will finish, and they will have a complex...”

As we now know, no ground was broken in Awendaw last June, or 2018 altogether.

The request for a zoning variance to remove the live oaks necessary to build 4 fields was not even filed with the Charleston County Zoning Review Board until January 28, 2019.

Additionally, in the application filed with the County, the Executive Director states "Reducing the number or dimensions of the fields would result in a non-compliance and make the project unviable." Evidently true to that statement, no ground has been broken to build even the 3 fields that the lot permits.

At no point did USAMP communicate these delays and possible lack of "viability" to parents at the club that pay their fees and expected to have the Awendaw fields to utilize next year.

So, whenever heads of USAMP try to bully; Or intimidate; or Or lie; Or sneak around from club to club to keep 2nd graders from playing games together in order to keep their "business" afloat, let’s be "clear". USAMP directors are not the ones that get to suggest to others they should be ashamed. And, for certain, they are not the ones that makes clear statements. Judging from documented history like above, perhaps not even truthful ones.

Parents (and coaches): this can all seem confusing and that's the last thing you need more of in your life. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Get specific answers. You are the customers. No youth club is perfect, but you have options. See the list of teams in the "tryouts" thread for the Charleston area. Find out the philosophy of the club and the plan for your child & your money before you accept any offers. Best of luck to all of your children.

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Again a clear statement... USA/MP will have game & training space for their teams next year.

They haven’t lied or misled their membership as you’d like to suggest.

They aren’t the reason for your clubs short comings either.

Best of luck on your season in the CPDL!

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They haven’t lied or misled their membership as you’d like to suggest.

USAMP misled/misleads its members. As they have misled the Town of Mount Pleasant. As they have misled the County of Charleston. Saying they haven't is at best... misleading.

Here's the facts & timeline on the example given in the prior post:

At the March 4th, 2019 Charleston County Zoning Board meeting, the County denied the variance to remove the Grand Trees that the USAMP executive director said was required for the Awendaw complex to proceed. To view the denial, as some already have, click this link:

https://www.charlestoncounty.org/departments/zoning-planning/bza.php

then scroll down to the drop-down box below "Meeting Minutes" and select "March 2019". Then scroll down to “CASE# is BZA-01-19-00308”. The final sentence is the denial.

Just two weeks later, on March 20th, the club put out an update to their field plans in which they told members:

"We are pleased to announce that our Club cleared its final hurdles with the Charleston County Board of Zoning Appeals last week to allow us to break ground on our field complex at Guerin’s Bridge Road, and we are excited to move forward with a planned opening of fall 2019!"

The link to that update is on their site, here:

http://www.usamountpleasant.com/new-field-development-expansion-update-march-20-2019

Judge for yourselves parents/coaches if you think that equates to misleading members. Were “final hurdles” cleared? What was “pleasing” about an outcome that denied the variance request to remove the trees when this meant, according to the executive director "the project would not be able to proceed, leaving USA-MP without fields to continue practice and competition"? They even put their field update under a picture of the denied field plans.

There are plenty of great parents and kids at all the local clubs, including USAMP. We are all 1 or 2 degrees of separation in this small community. Don't be afraid to stand up and ask questions of your club directors. If you are ignored, then ask parents at your club and other clubs about their experiences. You can still choose to stay at your club without fear of reprisal. Or you can just move to another club among the many local options.

Best of luck!

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Did you read the information that you posted from the board? Confirmation Bias much?

It looks like they requested to trim and or remove some trees. The removal was denied and the trimming was approved. Then they asked to build a parking area and that was approved. So....it looks like they have a green light from the board to press forward no?

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Did you read the information that you posted from the board? Confirmation Bias much?

It looks like they requested to trim and or remove some trees. The removal was denied and the trimming was approved. Then they asked to build a parking area and that was approved. So....it looks like they have a green light from the board to press forward no?


I could be wrong Chuck, but I think one of the issues was that the three trees that could not be removed prevented the property from providing the the four field layout that was desired. It may have reduced the useable operating space to three fields. If so, the survey team would have gone back to determine the best arrangement of the space. It would then be up to USA/MP to determine if that was a viable layout that would meet their needs and if that would affect the value of the lease agreement.

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Hot off the press, I just heard from someone who heard from someone else who heard from someone else who lives next to a family who has a cousin who plays for USA/MP that the picture used in the press release to announce the fields and follow up message includes a picture of a pond at the end of one of the fields. Rumor has it that a pond will not be required in the sites water management plan afterall. I can’t believe USA/MP have lied to us all! It’s unreal, I’m sure SCSoccerfan is already well on his way to digging up this conspiracy and will join me in calling for a area wide ban on all things USA/MP!

Ok.. back to reality.. the complex is moving ahead and will be opening this fall according to the parent meeting I attended at tryouts. I really hope despite all the hard feelings SCSoccerfanjohn will be there for the ribbon cutting. Actually I take that back as if he attends it will most likely be in the tree line waiting for ...

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I was presenting the executive director's quotes to County of Charleston and TOMPSC though they were the truth. If they were not, then my evidence is only of the lies told to TOMPSC and County of Charleston.

Best of luck to all the kids!

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