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#177408 - 01/24/20 08:40 AM Re: New SCHSL proposal [Re: SharksFutbol]
eMnAvA Offline
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Originally Posted By: SharksFutbol
Seeding would be great & I think using the MaxPreps SOS formula to factor into a teamís record would help deviate teams scheduling a bunch of weaker programs just to say they got 20 wins


That would be great! Now get every single program to actually fill out their schedules like they are supposed to... also WITHOUT adding the scrimmages grin

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#177409 - 01/24/20 05:39 PM Re: New SCHSL proposal [Re: Shamrock Rovers]
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I'm not sure I fully trust those Max Preps rankings. Keep an eye on them this year and watch where they rank some teams. I could be wrong but I feel like it's not the best way.

I think some states are required to use them or their team isn't playoff eligible. I believe I heard that somewhere or maybe just made it up... I like to make this up sometimes.

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#177413 - 01/25/20 01:17 AM Re: New SCHSL proposal [Re: Alister DeLong]
Kevin Heise Offline

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I'm not sure I fully trust those Max Preps rankings.

Fair enough! I brought this up at the United Soccer Coaches High School Rankings Committee last Thursday in Baltimore and have asked our leadership at that level to confer with MaxPreps about tweaking their formula. Kyle spoke with Alisa Dancer of MaxPreps about this as well.

Way too many 'points' are awarded to larger classification schools in addition to 'wins' in general due to their logarithm formula. There are fallacies with the MaxPreps ratings, but if everyone would enter their schedules and scores in a timely manner, a lot of the discrepancies will work themselves out.

As for making stuff up, you are not wrong. North Carolina bases their playoffs solely on the MaxPreps ratings.

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#177414 - 01/25/20 01:43 AM Re: New SCHSL proposal [Re: Kevin Heise]
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Originally Posted By: Kevin Heise
but if everyone would enter their schedules and scores in a timely manner, a lot of the discrepancies will work themselves out


Why not make it a requirement to fill out MaxPreps schedules and results for all sports?

Scores must be posted within 48 hours of the contest. Also, why can we still not have a "scrimmage" status surely the technology is available?

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#177415 - 01/25/20 01:59 AM Re: New SCHSL proposal [Re: Shamrock Rovers]
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Whatís the consequences of program that donít post on MaxPreps if itís mandatory? Not like it has any effect whatsoever on anything. I agree everyone should post, but I wouldnít be surprised if schools disregard since thereíd be no repercussions if you donít post scores there.

Good points on rankings too
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#177416 - 01/25/20 03:47 AM Re: New SCHSL proposal [Re: SharksFutbol]
eMnAvA Offline
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Originally Posted By: SharksFutbol
Whatís the consequences of program that donít post on MaxPreps if itís mandatory? Not like it has any effect whatsoever on anything. I agree everyone should post, but I wouldnít be surprised if schools disregard since thereíd be no repercussions if you donít post scores there.

Good points on rankings too


Fines. It's a major system that assists in the vital operation of sports within the HSL. By not reporting, the schools are neglecting the importance of the SCHSL & ruining the integrity of the sports and league.

Or some sort of "this is important" speak

If it effects the integrity of the state playoffs then it could be pushed. It's simple point and click. But that's putting too much responsibility on others to do a simple task properly

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#177417 - 01/25/20 06:32 PM Re: New SCHSL proposal [Re: SharksFutbol]
Kyle Heise Offline

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Originally Posted By: SharksFutbol
Whatís the consequences of program that donít post on MaxPreps if itís mandatory? Not like it has any effect whatsoever on anything. I agree everyone should post, but I wouldnít be surprised if schools disregard since thereíd be no repercussions if you donít post scores there.

Good points on rankings too

The first year North Carolina instituted this policy for its' NCHSCA members a basketball team was omitted from the postseason despite winning its' conference and a perfect regular season record. In the Tar Heel state, the roundball is king and this sent a major message to all sports programs that it will be enforced to the fullest.

In my opinion, if you have a useful tool - use it! Does it have its quirks? Yes! However, the more data and information it can compile the better the system. With the SCHSSCA we have had really good participation for most SCHSL and SCISA members. However, there are some pockets of the state that need to be addressed so if you know of a coach not contributing - then do the right thing and inform them.

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