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#177684 - 03/11/20 04:32 PM Re: Message Board Decorum [Re: Kevin Heise]
Kyle Heise Offline

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Registered: 12/24/01
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Loc: Cayce, SC
Shamrock Rovers: Just saw a hot thread was nuked. Second time in the last few weeks. Not sure why in this case, but perhaps a statement is in order.

Kyle Heise: No statement needed. This is a busy time of year for us and when posts become personal attacks or slander then we will simply delete the entire thread. Facts are fine and heated debate is tolerated. However, innuendo and speculation is not going to be spewed on this Message Board.

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#177685 - 03/11/20 06:16 PM Re: Message Board Decorum [Re: Kyle Heise]
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Registered: 12/22/17
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Originally Posted By: Kyle Heise
No statement needed. Thiis is a busy time of year for us and when posts become personal attacks or slander then we will simply delete the entire thread. Facts are fine and heated debate is tolerated. However, innuendo and speculation is not going to be spewed on this Message Board.


Thank you. Not sure what the offending speculation or innuendo was. Just glad that posting links and discussing the lawsuit was acceptable. I understand why libel, with evidence of actual malice, won’t be tolerated. Less that threshold, I assume we can discuss the information we have gleaned and posit our opinions.

It would be unfortunate and chilling if we could not come here and openly discuss the maneuvering of local clubs that impact our children without worrying that some clubs/people would be unhappy or concerned with the perception and cause open dialogue to be shut down by submitting a complaint. In fact, since you saw fit to share my message, I would hope you share theirs as well.

The lack of transparency and sometimes honesty by some clubs makes places like this so valuable. Clubs regularly promote positives and hide negatives. That is normal. Fortunately, this has been a place where pros/cons and different perspectives on clubs has been shared. I would hate to think that could be lost.

For every person that posts in the club site, there are many more lurkers, trying to learn something because club directors are not always accessible and forthright with them. Even those posters that may disagree with each other on most things would likely concur that the opportunity to freely discuss facts and information is of great value. Again, thank you for providing that environment.

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#178456 - 02/26/21 03:57 PM Re: Message Board Decorum [Re: Kevin Heise]
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Registered: 05/12/19
Posts: 139
Originally Posted By: Kevin Heise
Folks:

To put it bluntly, I don't have time to police the message boards because of folks' personal agendas. If you have a beef with a particular club, director, or coach, please take that issue up with them directly.

Please do not start another in regards to simply bashing the club or the people involved.


Do us all a favor, return us to the normalcy to this board please, where actual topics could be discussed.

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#178457 - 02/26/21 04:06 PM Re: Message Board Decorum [Re: Kevin Heise]
scsoccerfan123D Online   content
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Registered: 05/18/18
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I'm just asking questions you don't want to answer. Seems odd for you to get so emotional about it instead of answering the questions.

I'm sure these same questions will be presented to local and regional league leaders and are possibly part of the ongoing DOJ investigation. Please prepare answers. The parents and kids deserve them as well.

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#178458 - 02/26/21 06:13 PM Re: Message Board Decorum [Re: Kevin Heise]
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You aren’t asking questions, you are making accusations that are unfounded.

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#178459 - 02/26/21 06:30 PM Re: Message Board Decorum [Re: Kevin Heise]
scsoccerfan123D Online   content
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Registered: 05/18/18
Posts: 650
Which accusations?

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#178460 - 02/27/21 09:04 AM Re: Message Board Decorum [Re: scsoccerfan123D]
SoccerinLC Online   content
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Registered: 05/12/19
Posts: 139

You suggest the named individual in your post has committed a crime. However has yet to be charged or even named as a suspect. The Boston Globe article on this matter list coconspirators being targeted, the individual you name is not included.

Furthermore you suggest that former employees who worked under the named individual are guilty by association of the named individual, who as previous stated has not been charged with a crime nor is listed as a coconspirator.

The only thing your post is shedding light on is your twisted obsession with all things Surf.

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#178464 - 02/27/21 11:25 AM Re: Message Board Decorum [Re: Kevin Heise]
scsoccerfan123D Online   content
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Registered: 05/18/18
Posts: 650
Actually I'm opining on the reason why he may have quietly been dismissed by SC Surf.

Then I opined on whether or not letting him go would remove his influence and possible reasons why.

More to come.

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#178465 - 02/27/21 01:02 PM Re: Message Board Decorum [Re: Kevin Heise]
SoccerinLC Online   content
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Registered: 05/12/19
Posts: 139


What makes you think he was let go?

Assuming something doesn’t make it a fact.

Some suggested reading for you:

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/social-media-online-defamation.html

“The bottom line on this type of situation: If you are blogging or writing on your Facebook page, or submitting comments on someone else’s blog or Facebook page, make sure that you have all of your facts absolutely straight before posting your statement to the internet. Once you have clicked “send,” you can’t take it back.
Or, alternatively, if it is a close call, why say it at all? To use our example, why do you need to write on someone else’s Facebook page about Mary Johnson being fired? Unless you’re the one who fired her, you don’t know all the facts. In submitting posts or comments online or on social media, it is a good idea to exercise the utmost caution and avoid making any "gray area" statements that could be construed as defamation.”

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#178466 - 02/27/21 04:23 PM Re: Message Board Decorum [Re: Kevin Heise]
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Registered: 05/18/18
Posts: 650
Because the call us coming from inside your house.

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