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I would have to agree with Chuck... I do not believe that a soft red is "fouling" out. In soccer 2 yellows equals a red. HS decided to call it a soft red, in other words "he really did not mean to do it". The offender is removed from the game and replaced.
Thus the "fouling out" analogy. Problem is that what constitutes a yellow in HS or in FIFA rules is still the same.
I will claim ignorance of the details in Basketball, but a foul is called not because you are playing in unsportsmanlike behavior but because you did not defend the man correctly, this in soccer is called...TADA!!!... a foul.
A yellow card is given because of unsportsmanlike behavior, completely different.
Is there a rule based on accumulations? or what about a history of receiving cards?
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Chuck -
I completely agree about the need for more clarity and "soccer-specific" rules.
As an example, we all know that a player that intentionally uses his hand/arm to prevent a goal is subject to a red card (and PK), but this is not "abusive language, flagrantly or maliciously contacting another person, making obscene gestures to opponents or spectators" and could arguably not warrant even a one game suspension. However, I believe that we all accept that the rules of soccer require a one-game suspension in that case as well.
Sorry, I am going off point.
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DAY 1
Match #1 - Eagle Stadium
NORTHWESTERN 5-0 SUMMERVILLE
Halftime: N 3-0 S.
1:34 - (N) James Clinton from Vance Benson
19:14 - (N) Clinton from Ryan Kropp
34:47 - (N) Enzo Martinez from Ben Brannan
45:56 - (N) Andrew Phillips
57:47 - (N) Clinton from Reid Hovis
Shots: N 20-5 S.
Saves: N - Taylor Crawford 2; S - Ron Murray 9.
Corner Kicks: N - 3; S - 1.
Offsides: N - 7; S - 2.
Fouls: N - 17; S - 18.
Cautions: S - Joe Begley (22'), Stephen Kaskin (56'), Konner McGee (67').
Records: N (14-1); S (10-8).
Match #2 - Eagle Stadium
FARRAGUT 3-2 SPRING VALLEY
Halftime: F 2-2 SV.
19:11 - (SV) Eamon Penland
24:58 - (SV) Patrick Clements
38:05 - (F) Joseph Muth from Jake Russell
39:25 - (F) Muth
75:40 - (F) Russell
Shots: F 9-8 SV.
Saves: F - ? 5; SV - Davis Jenkins - 5.
Corner Kicks: F 9-2 SV.
Offsides: F - 2; SV - 1.
Fouls: F - 18; SV - 13.
Cautions: none
Records: F (6-1-4); SV (13-4).
Match #3 - Eagle Stadium
KELLY WALSH 4-2 AIRPORT
Halftime: A 1-0 KW.
17:56 - (A) Cody Crocker from Jarrett Epperson
46:15 - (KW) Sean Bell
50:57 - (KW) Kramer Hirz from Joe Gunderson
58:45 - (A) Willie Salcedo (penalty kick)
66:42 - (KW) Bell (penalty kick)
67:30 - (KW) Tyler Barrett
Shots: KW - 13, A - 3.
Saves: KW - Zach Johnson 1, Zack Hutchinson 0; A - Daniel Baker 5.
Corner Kicks: KW - 5; A - 4.
Offsides: none
Fouls: KW - 8; A - 11.
Cautions: none.
Records: KW (4-1-1); A (12-5).
Match #4 - Eagle Stadium
BROOKLAND-CAYCE 0-0 LEXINGTON
Halftime; BC 0-0 L.
Shots: BC - 11; L - 9.
Saves: BC - JC Gypin 6; L - Ty Osborne 5.
Corner Kicks: BC - 3; L - 4.
Offsides: none
Fouls: BC - 8; L - 12.
Cautions: BC - Blake Hinton (33').
Records: BC (9-7-1); L (11-3-1).
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THURSDAY SCORES/RESULTS -- Airport, Brookland-Cayce, Daniel, Farragut-TN, Fort Mill, Hilton Head, James Island, Kelly Walsh-WY, Lexington, Northwestern, Riverside, Socastee, South Anchorage-AK, Spring Valley, Summerville, and Wando
@ Eagle Stadium (AHS)
Hilton Head 2-0 Fort Mill
Daniel 4-1 Summerville
Farragut 3-1 Riverside
Hilton Head 6-1 Airport
Daniel 4-2 Socastee
@ The Cage (BCHS)
Northwestern 5-2 Socastee
Lexington 4-0 South Anchorage
Fort Mill 2-1 Kelly Walsh
Brookland-Cayce 2-1 James Island
Wando 3-1 Riverside
2-DAY POINT TOTALS
Group A - L (14, 1-0-1); B-C (12, 1-0-1); JI (1, 0-0-1); SA (0, 0-1-0).
Group B - N (19, 2-0-0); D (18, 2-0-0); SOC (4, 0-2-0); SUM (1, 0-2-0).
Group C - HH (18, 2-0-0); KW (10, 1-1-0); FM (8, 1-1-0); A (3, 0-2-0).
Group D - F (18, 2-0-0); W (9, 1-0-0); SV (2, 0-1-0); R (2, 0-2-0)
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FRIDAY SCORES/RESULTS -- Airport, Brookland-Cayce, Daniel, Farragut-TN, Fort Mill, Hilton Head, James Island, Kelly Walsh-WY, Lexington, Northwestern, Riverside, Socastee, South Anchorage-AK, Spring Valley, Summerville, and Wando
@ Eagle Stadium (AHS)
James Island 2-0 South Anchorage
Spring Valley 3-0 Riverside
Fort Mill 4-0 Airport
Lexington 1-1 James Island
Spring Valley 3-2 Wando
@ The Cage (BCHS)
Socastee 3-1 Summerville
Farragut 1-1 Wando
Hilton Head 4-2 Kelly Walsh
Northwestern 4-0 Daniel
Brookland-Cayce 5-2 South Anchorage
FINAL POINT TOTALS
Group A
#1 Brookland-Cayce (21, 2-0-1, 7 GF, 3 GA)
#2 Lexington (18, 1-0-2, 5 GF, 1 GA)
#3 James Island (14, 1-1-1, 4 GF, 3 GA)
#4 South Anchorage (2, 0-3-0, 2 GF, 11 GA)
Group B
#1 Northwestern (29, 3-0-0, 14 GF, 2 GA)
#2 Daniel (18, 2-1-0, 8 GF, 7 GA)
#3 Socastee (13, 1-2-0, 7 GF, 10 GA)
#4 Summerville (2, 0-3-0, 2 GF, 13 GA)
Group C
#1 Hilton Head (27, 3-0-0, 12 GF, 3 GA)
#2 Fort Mill (18, 2-1-0, 6 GF, 3 GA)
#3 Kelly Walsh (12, 1-2-0, 7 GF, 7 GA)
#4 Airport (3, 0-3-0, 3 GF, 14 GA)
Group D
#1 Farragut (22, 2-0-1, 7 GF, 4 GA)
#2 Spring Valley (21, 2-1-0, 8 GF, 5 GA)
#3 Wando (14, 1-1-1, 6 GF, 5 GA, (-1) for Soft Red)
#4 Riverside (2, 0-3-0, 2 GF, 9 GA)
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Friday PM Matches:
Hilton Head 4-2 Kelly Walsh-WY
Fort Mill 4-0 Airport
Daniel TBA Northwestern
James Island TBA Lexington
Spring Valley TBA Wando
Brookland-Cayce TBA South Anchorage-AK
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5:45 Daniel/NW ..I'll be there. Hopefully Benp has made sure my personal tent and ice cold beverage will be waiting for me when I arrive.
Seriously though..very excited to be at the Palmetto Cup again..GREAT TOURNAMENT!
(come say hello.. blue shirt..red shorts)
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Palmetto Cup - Final Day Schedule
SATURDAY, APRIL 15 @ UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA
M25, 9:30 am - Hilton Head vs. Farragut (TN) (Semifinals, 1-4) - Men's Soccer Practice Field on Rosewood Dr./S. Marion St.
M26, 9:30 am - Brookland-Cayce vs. Northwestern (Semifinals, 1-4) - Men's Soccer Practice Field
M33, 7:00 pm - M25 Winner vs. M26 Winner (Championship, 1-2) - Stone Stadium
SATURDAY, APRIL 15 @ EAGLE STADIUM
M27, 11:30 am - Airport vs. Riverside (Placement Match, 13-16)
M29, 1:30 pm - Kelly Walsh vs. Wando (Placement Match, 9-12)
M31, 3:30 pm - Fort Mill vs. Spring Valley (Placement Match, 5-8)
SATURDAY, APRIL 15 @ THE CAGE
M28, 12:30 pm - South Anchorage vs. Summerville (Placement Match, 13-16)
M30, 2:30 pm - James Island vs. Socastee (Placement Match, 9-12)
M32, 4:30 pm - Lexington vs. Daniel (Placement Match, 5-8)
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..where to start?
First of all, it's always nice to be back in Cola again..and what a beautiful day for soccer!
I got to the Cage about 10min into Daniel/NW ..just as NW keeper Taylor Crawford put his knees into the chest/neck/head of a Daniel forward. 4-0 pretty much says it all. Northwestern remains as dominate as they were in the preseason. Not a big fan of the way NW scored their 4..but they deserved the win.
..started to watch BC/SA..but I got frustrated by all the mohawks..couldn't tell who was who so it was off to Airport.
1-0 SV when we arrived. Moments after sitting down.. SV goes up 2-0..Wando answers shortly after. (i think that's how it went)
SV had the majority of play..and I found it hard to believe Wando was the 2nd best team in 4A. When their offense clicked though..it certainly CLICKED. I don't know when..but Sean Flynn scored from 35yrds out... keeper, WA defender, and SV forward collide.. ball bounces right to Flynn.. one touch 50 feet into the air.. bounces right infront of the goal mouth..and hits the top of the netting just behind the bar. Pretty sad watching the keeper and defender sprint back to no avail.
Anyway..for a moment Wando looked really good..put together a great series of one touch passing in the attacking third..and got a pretty sweet goal out of it.
With two minutes to go..things get chippy. SV's Sean Flynn goes up to clear a ball out of the six.. the biggest player on the field is thrown off balance by Wando's Andrew Eppelsheimer. Flynn bangs into the post (though his hands were up)..everyone thinks he's dead. Ref goes over.. SV parents start yelling for a card..though they have no idea WHO actually fouled their kid.
Next 10 minutes..the refs sort out the situation. Eppelsheimer is carded.. his 2nd yellow (soft red) ..Wando coach flips.. Flynn receives a yellow for language..though technically it should have been RED..and if a police officer had heard what he said when he came back to the bench..he'd probably be in cuffs.
ANYWAY.. eventually play resumes.. and the game is called shortly after. 3-2 SV.
Great match in my opinion..could have done without all the parents yelling..(there are many ways to show class).. But all in all.. great day of soccer for me. Thanks to you guys for putting on such a great tourney.
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