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#35042 05/08/06 11:22 PM
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One thing you haven't discussed is that some teams pull their #1 keeper in the blowouts and get their reserve some playing time. So if the starter is always playing the "good" teams but partially playing the "bad" teams, then his gaa could be skewed a little high.

#35043 05/08/06 11:26 PM
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I'm not trying to boast that AM is the best by any means, I'm just saying that you had teams listed with high scores (low for GAA) and I decided to look it up myself, and just noticed that AM was not listed. Just throwing it out there, not trying to compare its program with NW and Greenville

#35044 05/09/06 01:03 AM
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Cola, your absolutely right, since I don't keep stats for every Keep, i'm just going by what I calculate which is the Highest GAA for a Team's 1,2+ Keeps they have.

Tellitotf, The teams I covered were 4A with some from other divisions 'cause they were mentioned in this thread as 'Best'. The problem with a high scoring team is that it distorts the Keeps GAA - low, such as Greenville, and, when they're finally challenged like Greenville's last game, the Keep gets 4 goals scored on him. And, when it comes time to show your stuff, PKs, the Greenville Keep just didn't have it. Greenville's two losses this season were both in PKs (3-1 2x). I think this clearly demonstrates my point.

#35045 05/09/06 01:24 PM
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Nice to see Mark DiMaggio get the recognition. He did a nice job organizing a very young Fort Mill defense that played in front of him.

#35046 05/09/06 02:09 PM
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SFF, you are making WAY too many assumptions.

You say "If you also consider the 'goals scored against opponents avg', this equates to possession and time not challenging the Keep." Maybe in most cases, you can say that if one team beats another one 5-0, the winning team possessed the ball the majority of the match. But, again, that is purely speculation. I have seen plenty of games where a team has outscored their opponent by several goals, yet possessed the ball about the same amount, or in some cases, less than the losing team (twice in just the last two weeks).

Same thing with GAA – you are assuming that a goalkeeper has done an excellent job based solely on a low number, when in fact, there may be nothing further from the truth. As far as you know from games you have not seen, the goalkeeper may have never touched the ball. He may owe his low GAA to superb fullbacks. You, yourself, even admit that “The problem with a high scoring team is that it distorts the Keeps GAA.”

If your objective for all the numbers is purely mindless entertainment, fine, but to say “The rest SUCK!” or “Your Keep is above 1.00, NOT GOOD!” about any keeper who does not fit your idea (yes, I realize this website has a list) of a good goalkeeper is definitely unfair to many good keepers.

If you want to say that’s the way you feel, go right ahead. But, you appear to be stating as fact that which is in reality only speculation.

Saying that a keeper is NOT GOOD or SUCKs, having NEVER actually seen him or her play is just plain irresponsible. I can understand the younger posters on this bulletin board making those types of comments, but you are a little old for that.

#35047 05/11/06 04:17 AM
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Soccer For Fun - just a thought here...you seem 2 b n2 the numbers pretty seriously. Maybe you could come up with some sort of program or formula using several different factors, including GAA, GSAOS, records of teams, records of opponents, etc. There is already alot of info regarding the ranking stuff....maybe you could incorporate that into your formulas. That way, your numbers would probably come a lot closer to the way things really are. Obviously, that is a lot of work - I'm sure Chico wouldn't mind me volunteering his services or past experience with this sort of thing. Heck, he might have already done the same thing at some point in time. Just a suggestion.

#35048 05/12/06 03:00 AM
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Both the Northwestern and Spring Valley goal keepers have 19 shutouts on the season(including scrimmages). This game is going to be a battle...if anyone can score!

#35049 05/12/06 03:35 AM
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Wrong! Both Spring Valley's keeper, and Northwestern's defense have 19 shutouts this season. (nothing against SV's defense, they played a big part no doubt, but Davis is legit)

#35050 05/12/06 04:05 AM
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Davis is pretty solid back there for SV. He's pretty tall and does a good job with crosses, free kicks, long throws and other high balls of that sort. I've only played against Crawford a few times so I don't really know how good he is but from what I have seen he certainly doesn't seem bad, but he's nothing that special either.

#35051 05/14/06 01:32 AM
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i saw the nmb keeper this year, and he is very impressive. He led his back line to only 12 goals allowed and 14 shootouts this past season

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