SC Soccer Forums SCSoccer.com Forums Boys Varsity Soccer 5 Minute Penalty

During a game last week a player received a yellow card and had to leave the field. When the coach sent him in at the next opportunity the referee wouldn't allow it. The referee said he had to stay out 5 minutes. The coach questioned the ruling and he was told that's what the referee clinic in Columbia told him. The other referee (it was a two man system) talked to the referee and it was left that he had to stay out 5 minutes. (I wonder who was keeping track of the penalty minutes?) There was only about 2 minutes left in the game so the game ended without him getting back in. Anybody else told of the 5 minute penalty at a Columbia meeting?

no that referee should be fired just like all the rest of them

There is no provision in NFHS rules that state a "time penalty" for a cautioned player. It may have been recommended, but there is no time penalty in the NFHS rules handbook.

That official was in error and it should be reported to Roger Hazel at the HSL.

..it depends. Was your player carded for Cross Checking or Slashing...wait.

that is so gay, since when is there a five minute penalty? that ref shouldn't even be allowed to ref anymore!!!

Please make sure this is reported directly to Roger Hazel at the S C High School League. There is no excuse for this happening. Also please send the name of the offical to Kevin at SCSOCCER and we will follow up on this also.

Clayton Bigsby:
That's right, lets fire all the refs.
Who would do the rest of the season's games followed by the play-offs?? You????

we could have one huge rugby match!!!

I think we should use the honor system to call penalties. I mean teenagers are definetly able to ref themselves.

if high school soccer used the honor system all games would end 0-0 because they would argue witch team gets to call the coin toss, and never make a decision!!!

Although it is not in the rules, I would have no problem with a 5 min. time frame before you can go back in. That gives the player some time to at least ponder the possibility that he is not far from being disqualified from the match. The player may also take that time to cool off, if needed.
Bigsby, what do you propose be done to "change the system"?

04striker, i don't think that's the issue. it's the fact that an official made up his own rule despite what the rules state. that kind of behavior should be dealt with.

I agree with that.

If you think there should be a 5 minute penalty then you should not be involved with soccer. It's a physical game and confrontations will happen. It's called sportsmanship and most players have it. Some will not, so that should be accepted already.

A 5 minute penalty, please. Let's drop this discussion where it started: A discussion of a bad interpretation of the rules; a 5 minute penalty is not a rule.

i still vote for one huge rugby match!!!

..good thing you aren't old enough to vote.

Now go play with your LEGOs.

sckeeper- i was joking. There is no way a match could go on with out refs.

Clayton Bigsby:
If you read my post you do not see me defending the ref that did it. It was an idiotic thing to do and we all know the rule does not exist. Your solution was to fire all the refs, which is equally idiotic.
No-one who loves the game can be "content" with what happened.
By the way, who are "you people".???

yea, I mean what is this the NHL? what was the ref's name?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard it is for some people to grasp sarcasm in these posts.

WELL REFS HAVE BEEN DROPING THE BALL ALL YEAR LONG SO THIS IS NO SURPRISE!!! I'M SUPRISED THAT IT HASN'T HAPPENED BEFORE NOW!!!

Here's a possible explanation for the 5 minute penalty.

The Ref used this tactic to keep the player off the field. I have seen Refs tell a coach that it would not be in the team's or player's best interest to have a player come back on the field. It was the refs opinion that the player was only a play away from losing control and getting another yellow or a straight red. Usually the ref somehow expresses that to the coach and the coach does not return the player to the field immediately. In the case last week the ref was on the other side of the field from the coach and thought the five minutre rule was an easier way of getting the job done. This explanation was given to me tonight from someone at that game last week. - Not the most correct way of keeping a player from getting ejected, but effective.

Effective...but didn't you say that there wasn't even 5 minutes left in the game? I think this should still be reported. If this was me or my team I would still be mad. Just doesn't seem right to me.

I am still angry about the situation. The player deserved the card! He committed the foul and took away a breakaway. That being said, there was no ill intent nor was the player out of control. This was his second foul of the game. Also, I was at the meeting in Columbia and as far as I remember do not remember hearing anything of that nature. If the case is brought up that the ref felt the kid needed some time off the field, no matter how much time is left, it is the ref's responsibility to explain that to the coach. The only explanation I got was after the game when the ref shared that they were told to do that for all cards. Pretty shady if you ask me. This was the third or fourth time we had this ref, and I became less and less happy with his performance as the season progressed. I realize that we did not have the best of years (this was my first here), but I pride myself on teaching my kids not to play dirty.

kickittome - The way the Ref handled the situation was poor. I myself didn't think a card was warranted by the particular foul, but I can't say that it wasn't for an accumulation of things. I didn't see anything on our half of the field that made me believe your player was behaving poorly. Having said that, I'm relieved that it didn't affect the outcome of the game. I recommend contacting the referee assigner and letting him know of your displeasure, I already have.

I am. Now that things have quieted down for us, I am able to get some other things done. Look forward to playing you guys next season.