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#51490 04/25/06 02:14 PM
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SCSOCCER.COM uses the NCAA Statistics Manual as a guideline for the "records section".

GOALKEEPING

Article 2
A goalkeeper receives credit for a shutout only by playing the entire contest. If two or more goalkeepers participate in a game where no goals are allowed, credit the team with a shutout but do not award any goalkeeper an individual or shared shutout. A goalkeeper must be solely responsible for holding the opposition scoreless to be credited with a shutout. We have amended this rule for high school in terms of "shared shutouts" if two goalkeepers combine for a shutout, then a 0.5 shutout is applied to each player. However, if more than two goalkeepers combine for a shutout, then a keeper that has logged at least half of that game's minutes will get credited with a 1/2 shutout and the others should be "fractioned".

Article 3
If a contest ends in a scoreless tie, credit both teams with a shutout.

Article 4
A goalkeeper’s goals-against average is calculated by multiplying the number of goals allowed by 90 (80 in high school), divided by the actual number of minutes played by the keeper. A team's goals-against average is figured by multiplying the number of goals allowed by the team by 90 (80 in high school), divided by the actual number of minutes played.

GAA = (Goals Allowed x 90) ÷ Minutes Played

Article 5
If a player other than the team’s goalkeeper saves a ball from going into the net, credit that team with a team save. The save is credited to the team’s total for the game but not to the individual goalkeeper. I.E., back save off the line

OVERTIME, TIEBREAKER PROCEDURE

Article 1
All statistics that occur during overtime count toward team and individual totals. However, if the game reaches the point where a tiebreaker procedure of taking kicks from the penalty-kick line or spot occurs, no statistics — goals or saves — count toward team or individual.
totals. In high school, we have amended this to award the "game winning" penalty kick to count towards a player's statistics, but the goalkeepers are excluded from this area and a "team goal allowed" should be credited to the losing team. A 1-0 loss in penalty kicks ruins a shutout for the "team".

Article 2
All contests decided by the tiebreaker procedure of taking kicks from the penalty-kick line or spot shall be counted as ties for each team’s overall record. The score shall be recorded as a tie. I wish the SCHSL would fall in line with the "rest of the world" concerning matches decided by penalty kicks. Yes, it is necessary in the playoffs, but not at any time in my opinion during the regular season. However, since the SCHSL uses the PKs as its decision maker, then Wins/Losses are recorded and Ties occur only during tournaments at the present time.

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so a kid can break a record for consecutive shutouts where PKs are involved, but the team can't?

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Thanks Kyle.

Goalkeeping Article 3 (credit both teams with a shutout) seems to be in conflict with Overtime, Tiebreaker Procedure Article 1 ("team goal allowed").

What's the final verdict?

#51493 04/25/06 03:41 PM
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H66,

All I know is what I was told by Kyle back in 2004. Which conflicts with what he posted above, and that was that the SCHSL does not want any ties therefore the loss in PK's results in no shutout, PLUS he sad that it counts as a goal in the Keeper's stats. He did not post the above rules then, and I did not press any further. You know...the game was against B-C...I didn't want to risk banishment from this fine community [Cool] Those who know me know I am careful like that [Wink]

I wish I could find that two year old post.

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T.L. Hanna had 48 shutouts in 2002

#51495 04/25/06 03:53 PM
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T.L. Hanna once scored a goal before the game even started.

#51496 04/25/06 03:57 PM
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Here is the post from two years ago:

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posted March 05, 2004 05:40 PM
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deahler, per S.C. High School League rules, all matches (Varsity and Junior Varsity) must have a winner and a loser.

Therefore, in a penalty kick shootout, the winning team gets credited for one goal -- no matter if the shootout is 3-0 or 9-8 -- the scoreboard result will be one goal more for the winning team than the losing team. So, if a match ends at 2-2 in overtime, then the final score will be 3-2 for the winning squad.

Now then, how do you credit the person with the winning goal? It's pretty simple -- say a team wins 4-3 in the shootout (the player responsible for that fourth goal would be granted the game-winning score in statistics). What if the score is 3-1? Well, in that case the player that scored the second goal of the shootout would be credited with the game-winning score. Same thing if the penalty kicks decision was 3-0 -- the first scorer gets the credit for the game-winning goal.

The losing team's goalkeeper is the only player charged with a goal against when calculating the goals against average (Goals x 80 / Minutes Played). Also, no other players get credited with a "goal scored" in the shootout, except for the player that scores the game-winner.


We can't keep records, if we keep changing the way they are counted. So, Fort Mill has 9 consecutive shutouts this year - Lexington has 10 and counting with O-W coming up tonight. The question does remain for the recordkeepers - do tournaments and playoffs count?

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Interesting that our 1-0 PK loss (0-0 regulation) was against B-C. He's throwing me a bone here....maybe he's lightened up over the past couple of years? ;>) I think this is the right call.

Everybody back to the record books and check the following.

Most shutouts in a season: Fort Mill 18 (2006)
Most consecutive shutouts: Fort Mill 13 (2006)

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Amendments do happen!

http://www.scsoccer.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000360#000006

The losing team, not the goalkeeper, is charged with a goal against when calculating the goals against average (Goals x 80 / Minutes Played). Also, no other players get credited with a "goal scored" in the shootout, except for the player that scores the game-winner.

Appreciate everyone's help. Nice collaborative effort!

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deahler,

Nowhere in that reply from Kyle does it say that the team doesn't get credit for a shutout if the game was scoreless prior to the PK shootout.

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