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According to the South Carolina High School League website, the record for most shutouts in a season is 17 by Spring Valley in 1997. Fort Mill currently has 18 shutouts this season and Mauldin and Riverside are also closing in on this record with 16 shutouts each.

Also, according the SCHSL website, Spring Valley holds the record for most consecutive shutouts with 10 in 1997. Fort Mill recorded 13 consecutive shutouts during the course of the 2006 season.

Does anybody have any info on other schools in the past who may have put up more shutouts? I don't know how the SCHSL keeps track of this stuff.

T.L. Hanna had 37 in 2001. How did they miss that one?

Hurst66,

Not to nitpick over stats, but 1-0 losses in PK's do not count as shutouts. One of the Heise's informed me of this two years ago when Lexington and BC battled to a scoreless tie through regulation and two overtimes. B-C then won out in PK's. As far as the SCHSL is concerned, that counts as a goal scored against the losing team. So the Fort Mill shutout string is actually 9. Now the questions remain...do the playoffs count? Do tournament games count?

I don't know, thats sort of a grey area. It is technically a shut out. PK's are simply to break the tie, but it is considered a 1-0 victory, so you could argue both sides.

Shut out = no one scored on you

I think that is a "technical" definition.

Lexington has 10 consecutive shutouts as of last night with their win over SV.

deahler,

I'm still looking for clarification. Is this a scsoccer.com rule, a Heise rule, or a SCHSL rule? Who makes the call here on this one?

Settling regular season games by PK's is ridiculous (see Coaches forum).

Not rewarding a team with a shutout after 80 minutes and 2 OT's of scoreless play is even more ridiculous.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that Lexington will end the regular season with 12 consecutive shutouts.......

Riverside has had a total of 15 shutouts during the season, not counting one recorded as a PK win. Their longest streak is 10 recorded between 03/11/06 and 04/05/06. Shutouts include Wando, James Island, Dorman, Spartanburg and Mauldin, among others.

Riverside's 1-0 PK win over Mauldin certainly counts as a shutout.

SCSOCCER.COM uses the NCAA Statistics Manual as a guideline for the "records section".

GOALKEEPING

Article 2
A goalkeeper receives credit for a shutout only by playing the entire contest. If two or more goalkeepers participate in a game where no goals are allowed, credit the team with a shutout but do not award any goalkeeper an individual or shared shutout. A goalkeeper must be solely responsible for holding the opposition scoreless to be credited with a shutout. We have amended this rule for high school in terms of "shared shutouts" if two goalkeepers combine for a shutout, then a 0.5 shutout is applied to each player. However, if more than two goalkeepers combine for a shutout, then a keeper that has logged at least half of that game's minutes will get credited with a 1/2 shutout and the others should be "fractioned".

Article 3
If a contest ends in a scoreless tie, credit both teams with a shutout.

Article 4
A goalkeeper’s goals-against average is calculated by multiplying the number of goals allowed by 90 (80 in high school), divided by the actual number of minutes played by the keeper. A team's goals-against average is figured by multiplying the number of goals allowed by the team by 90 (80 in high school), divided by the actual number of minutes played.

GAA = (Goals Allowed x 90) ÷ Minutes Played

Article 5
If a player other than the team’s goalkeeper saves a ball from going into the net, credit that team with a team save. The save is credited to the team’s total for the game but not to the individual goalkeeper. I.E., back save off the line

OVERTIME, TIEBREAKER PROCEDURE

Article 1
All statistics that occur during overtime count toward team and individual totals. However, if the game reaches the point where a tiebreaker procedure of taking kicks from the penalty-kick line or spot occurs, no statistics — goals or saves — count toward team or individual.
totals. In high school, we have amended this to award the "game winning" penalty kick to count towards a player's statistics, but the goalkeepers are excluded from this area and a "team goal allowed" should be credited to the losing team. A 1-0 loss in penalty kicks ruins a shutout for the "team".

Article 2
All contests decided by the tiebreaker procedure of taking kicks from the penalty-kick line or spot shall be counted as ties for each team’s overall record. The score shall be recorded as a tie. I wish the SCHSL would fall in line with the "rest of the world" concerning matches decided by penalty kicks. Yes, it is necessary in the playoffs, but not at any time in my opinion during the regular season. However, since the SCHSL uses the PKs as its decision maker, then Wins/Losses are recorded and Ties occur only during tournaments at the present time.

so a kid can break a record for consecutive shutouts where PKs are involved, but the team can't?

Thanks Kyle.

Goalkeeping Article 3 (credit both teams with a shutout) seems to be in conflict with Overtime, Tiebreaker Procedure Article 1 ("team goal allowed").

What's the final verdict?

H66,

All I know is what I was told by Kyle back in 2004. Which conflicts with what he posted above, and that was that the SCHSL does not want any ties therefore the loss in PK's results in no shutout, PLUS he sad that it counts as a goal in the Keeper's stats. He did not post the above rules then, and I did not press any further. You know...the game was against B-C...I didn't want to risk banishment from this fine community Those who know me know I am careful like that

I wish I could find that two year old post.

T.L. Hanna had 48 shutouts in 2002

T.L. Hanna once scored a goal before the game even started.

Here is the post from two years ago:

Kyle Heise
Administrator
Member # 1

posted March 05, 2004 05:40 PM
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deahler, per S.C. High School League rules, all matches (Varsity and Junior Varsity) must have a winner and a loser.

Therefore, in a penalty kick shootout, the winning team gets credited for one goal -- no matter if the shootout is 3-0 or 9-8 -- the scoreboard result will be one goal more for the winning team than the losing team. So, if a match ends at 2-2 in overtime, then the final score will be 3-2 for the winning squad.

Now then, how do you credit the person with the winning goal? It's pretty simple -- say a team wins 4-3 in the shootout (the player responsible for that fourth goal would be granted the game-winning score in statistics). What if the score is 3-1? Well, in that case the player that scored the second goal of the shootout would be credited with the game-winning score. Same thing if the penalty kicks decision was 3-0 -- the first scorer gets the credit for the game-winning goal.

The losing team's goalkeeper is the only player charged with a goal against when calculating the goals against average (Goals x 80 / Minutes Played). Also, no other players get credited with a "goal scored" in the shootout, except for the player that scores the game-winner.


We can't keep records, if we keep changing the way they are counted. So, Fort Mill has 9 consecutive shutouts this year - Lexington has 10 and counting with O-W coming up tonight. The question does remain for the recordkeepers - do tournaments and playoffs count?

Interesting that our 1-0 PK loss (0-0 regulation) was against B-C. He's throwing me a bone here....maybe he's lightened up over the past couple of years? ;>) I think this is the right call.

Everybody back to the record books and check the following.

Most shutouts in a season: Fort Mill 18 (2006)
Most consecutive shutouts: Fort Mill 13 (2006)

Amendments do happen!

http://www.scsoccer.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000360#000006

The losing team, not the goalkeeper, is charged with a goal against when calculating the goals against average (Goals x 80 / Minutes Played). Also, no other players get credited with a "goal scored" in the shootout, except for the player that scores the game-winner.

Appreciate everyone's help. Nice collaborative effort!

deahler,

Nowhere in that reply from Kyle does it say that the team doesn't get credit for a shutout if the game was scoreless prior to the PK shootout.

Kyle,

Pretty slick there changing your post from two years ago. Fortunately for me, I was able to copy it before you edited it. Keeps me from thinking I am going insane.

H66,

"Therefore, in a penalty kick shootout, the winning team gets credited for one goal", from the original post by Kyle. Sounds like no shutout to me. When you and Kyle are finished with all of your editing, let me know. In the meantime, I will let my daughter know that in 170 minutes of tending goal over the last two years against the mighty, nationally-ranked Brookland-Cayce girls her team's defense has been perfect.

Nothing slick about it Mrs. Deahl. That's what the word 'amendment' means! If you notice, I didn't make the 'amendment' until after reading your posts with Hurst66's -- therefore, when someone has this question in the future, we can all refer them to these posts.

Kyle,

Someone should probaly go to the Eurosport scoreboard and amend all of the games decided in PK's to reflect the accurate "goals scored" and "goals allowed" for record-keeping puposes.

deahler, won't happen. The SCHSL credits the team that loses the penalty kick shootout with a goal against, so that is what is reflected on the Scoreboard. Now then, when it comes to rankings, PKs are viewed as draws and that is how they are submitted at the conclusion of the season when the power ratings are calculated.

Hmmm...OK, sounds fair enough to me!

If PK losses can be viewed as draws for the purpose of rankings, then a 1-0 loss on PK's can certainly be viewed as a shutout for both teams for the purpose of historical record keeping.

Which then would mean we would have to go back several years to trace other team's shutouts as well. No rule bending for Fort Mill!!!

So, when you submit the stats to have the power ratings calculate, FM actually has 3 ties and one loss. 17 - 1 - 3, is that correct, how the guys from BCS view it.

anonymousjoe, Fort Mill would be 17-1-3 as of today.

In regards to shutouts (you people are wearing me out on my lunch break)!

Fort Mill
18 Shutouts/1 PK
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3-0, J.L. Mann
2-0, Hilton Head
3-0, Northwestern
5-0, Richland Northeast
9-0, York
5-0, Lancaster
8-0, Woodruff
2-0, Byrnes
4-0, Spartanburg
4-0, Gaffney
9-0, Rock Hill
PK 0-0, Brookland-Cayce
4-0, Northwestern
8-0, York
3-0, Butler
8-0, Lancaster
8-0, Gaffney
7-0, Rock Hill

Lexington
13 Shutouts
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5-0, Dreher
2-0, Richland Northeast
3-0, Irmo
2-0, North Augusta
7-0, South Aiken
1-0, Aiken
3-0, Orangeburg-Wilkinson
2-0, White Knoll
10-0, North Augusta
4-0, Dreher
3-0, South Aiken
2-0, Aiken
5-0, Spring Valley

This is why we love you, Kyle. We'd still be in the stone age of soccer if you hadn't dragged us into the new age kicking and screaming!

W&E.....gotta love the asterisk.

Well deserved

Lest anyone think that my harping on this subject has anything to do with stumping for a particular defender or keeper, let me go on record as saying that I think Lexington's current string of 10 consecutive shutouts can mainly be credited to the pressure the Wildcat offense consistently puts on opposing team's defenses. Over the course of the current shutout string, three different keepers have been in the goal, and at least nine different players have played the traditional four "defender positions". All the while, the offense has consistently put pressure on the opposing goal. An interesting (and probably meaningless) statistic - Lexington has only lost two matches over the last three seasons when they have registered a goal.

Lexington just set the new state record for consecutive shutouts with their win tonight bringing it to 11.

Other Top Squads and their shutout/games played:

Wando 12/19
Mauldin 15/22
Dutch Fork 11/15
Riverside 16/21
Academic Magnet 14/18

Well since PKs don't count as a shut out
FM 17/21, what about playoffs, do they count. They count toward your overall season record.

truefan,

I beg to differ. A 0-0 result after 80 minutes and OT is still a shutout. FM is at 13. Lex should easily tie this mark by blanking White Knoll tonight and then keeping a clean sheet in their first state playoff match.

Hurst66,

Prior to yesterday's "amendments" the record was 10. Have you gone back through all of the records and scores and assured yourself that no other team had a similar 1-0 PK loss (hence, 0-0 after regulation and overtime), that when amended would give them a string greater than 13?

deahler,

Burden of proof is on the other schools. I went to the SCHSL website and saw that the old record was 10 by Spring Valley. Fort Mill got to 13 this year and I do think that Lex will exceed that mark before the end of this season, counting playoffs.

When Lex gets to 14 it will be up to other schools to do the research and find someone else who exceeded the mark.

Great points, but it's so much fun to bust your chops! Lexington would be very fortunate to join the esteemed company of Fort Mill!

Lex, Mauldin and Dorman have already joined FM in the upperstate fraternity.

Fort Mill vs Lexington

Man, that one would lite the boards on fire...

I will be looking forward to next year. If i recall 3 viking cups ago. When Ft. Mill had about 8 freshman on the team, I believe lexington was in the same situation. So if my calculations are correct lexington will have a large amount of seniors next year, as will Ft. Mill. Should be even more interesting....

Lexington roster breakdown, as posted on lexingtonwildcats.com (Lexington Girls' Soccer Roster):

(1) Freshman
(12) Sophomores
(8) Juniors
(2) Seniors

It should be noted that one of the Juniors is an exchange student from Brazil, therefore will not be back next year.

yeah, they are both very young teams. I think mauldin was almost all seniors (starting). Next year may be the year of Lexington.

Seniors (3) - 2 Goalies and The SCHMITT
Juniors (8)
Sophomores (7)
Freshman (2)

Dorman has only three seniors also (I think). Regardless - I expect all of those mentioned in this thread, plus plenty of others, to put very good teams on the field.

A word of caution - every year it seems like Mauldin has a lot of impact seniors, only to have more step up the next year. I find that to be true of most of the good PROGRAMS. Counting seniors is not always the best way to predict who will be at the top the proverbial "next year".

WIN NOW!!! Who knows what will happen next year? Move-ins/outs, transfers, burn-outs, injuries, bad bounces at critical times, seniors deciding not to play in order to pursue a college dream, impact freshman (or not)...I could continue with this list. However, I think you get the point!

If you build a good program with a solid club feeder system, then you will probably taste a fair share of success.

I know I was just commenting that Lexington and Fort Mill are going to have a lot of seniors next year, "seasoned players". Danielle is going to leave a big void in the middle, someone will have to fill that in order for Ft. Mill to be competititve at all next year.

Riverside had 20 shutouts in 2004, their last state champs year, and they played 24 games only losing one. They set the record for least goals against (10), most goals for, and most shut-outs. I believe to set a record you have to win the state, or that is what i have heard. Also i believe that is the best way to do it also because if you really are better then others then you shoud be able to go all the way, and WIN. As of right now Riverside is tied with their old record of 10 goals against and they have 17 shutouts with 5 games to go, that is if they go all the way.

Winning state has nothing to do with earning the rights to records.

First i would like to correct myself, Riverside played 28 games and won 27 and the record they set for most goals for was 184.

Second...if the statement about having to win state to set a record then why are all these "records" not recorded?

I'm just wondering.

pks,

Good point on why none of the records have been recorded. It's a shame that over all these years there has not been a "caretaker" to compile all of this.

Fort Mill has allowed only 4 goals this year through 21 games. That record of 10 is in jeopardy.

Just a note. The boys records are pretty accurate and can be found at Boys Individual & Team Records. However, for whatever reason, the girls side of things has always had a void since its inception in the early 1990s.

Girls Team Goals Allowed record listed on www.schsl.org actually has Riverside yielding only 4 goals in 1992.

Kyle, can you make a concerted effort to establish the benchmarks for the girls? What kind of help would you need?

Sure. However, it's going to have to wait until June after the 2006 season is wrapped up.

What we really need is someone passionate about girls soccer records to comb through some of the better programs' historical records (i.e., Riverside, Eastside, Wando, West Ashley, Bishop England, Mauldin, etc.). Those programs over the past 15 years have basically been the benchmark programs and would probably hold most of the records.

If anyone is interested, I'm listening!

The Charlotte Observer gives a little love to the Lady Jackets defense. Also noted is that Mauldin has the record for most shutouts in a season (20).

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/local/states/south_carolina/counties/york/14464423.htm

Hey, Kyle! Man, you forgot T.L. Hanna! Must've been a typo there, heh, heh. Slip of the finger? Preoccupied? Mind on other things? Don't worry about, buddy. Happens to the best of us. Yup, T.L. Hanna, one of the top programs. Yes sireeeee...