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#52701 05/13/06 07:12 AM
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LEDude, whats up with the irmo hating? your name should be LED*ck.. Yeah when its all said and done Dorman won the game "fair." But you cannot honestly stand here tell me that there was nothing controversial about the game at all. I do agree that Dorman scored a goal to make it 3-2 in OT.. but to take away CLEAR goal is just wrong. sure the horn went off as it was going in. but isnt official time kept on the field as it is with every other H.S. game???

#52702 05/13/06 07:23 AM
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Dave, since when is the scoreboard clock "official"?

Remember back in 2002(i think), when Irmo boys were playing Wando(i think) in the state championship?? Irmo was ahead towards the end of regulation and the center ref signaled 1 minute left to everyone (on camera, too) and ended up adding over 5 minutes of stoppage time? The opposing team scored to even up right before stoppage time, but after the scoreboard clock was ended.. wando went on to win it.. official time was definetly kept on the field then..

maybe there were rule changes recently, but as far as i can remember official time was kept on the field..

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I believe the Irmo boys incident that you are talking about is exactly why offical time is now the scoreboard clock. I'll say one thing, they need to crank up the volume on the scoreboard, because with all the crowd noise, it is very hard to hear the buzzer at the end of the game.

#52704 05/13/06 12:50 PM
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Soccerboy: According to the rules, a PK is the only thing for which time can be extended. If the clock expires before the PK is taken, the PK should be allowed to be completed. For all other circumstances, the match is over when time expires.

#52705 05/13/06 01:10 PM
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Props to DORMAN AND COACH JOSEPH, reguardless of how it ended it is over. Well Done!

#52706 05/13/06 01:45 PM
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Soccerboy,

Wow. That was some fancy rule-making-uping! Why don't you come officiate our next dodgeball tournament. "Whiskey's Easies" haven't won in their last 4 outings. You nancy-boy!

Truefan,

Don't worry, that sting and jealousy of losing to Dorman will heal. In the meantime, why don't you start by washing your daughter's mouth out with soap.

#52707 05/13/06 01:46 PM
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Congrats Jo on the big one! Mike, you just needed a little more time. Anderson is proud of you!

#52708 05/13/06 06:58 PM
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Soccerboy: Refer to Rule 7, Art. 4 on page 34 of the 2005-2006 NFHS Soccer Rules Book. It says:

" ART. 4 . . . A period shall end at the expiration of time.
EXCEPTION: Play shall be extended beyond the expiration of the period, in regulation time and overtime, to permit a penalty kick to be completed."

#52709 05/13/06 07:19 PM
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I'm sorry soccerboy, I can't hear you. I have a rule book in my ear. What's that...I'm right? Oh, well thank you. Coach P is a level 87 official and assessor so I think I'll take his informed post over yours. Good run, man. Next year, next year...

#52710 05/13/06 10:17 PM
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Soccerboy: I think one of the issues here is who is keeping the official time. In FIFA games and most high school games, the center referee keeps the time. However, the NFHS rules allow for either an official timer or for the time to be kept by the head referee on the field. In most high school games I have officiated, the referee keeps the offical time on the field and the person keeping the scoreboard clock stops it at 2 minutes so the horn doesn't sound early. I was assuming that at a state final there would be an official timekeeper and that the scoreboard clock was the official time. But if the referee was keeping the time on the field, the OT period would not have been over until he blew his whistle which was well after the Irmo goal.

The problem I have with your idea of allowing a goal after time has expired is how do you be consistent? Are you sayng that you would allow the goal if the ball is in the air when time expires? What if it is bouncing around in the box when time expires? It was my observation last night that the time expired while the long shot from outside the box was in the air. It was then mishandled by the goalkeeper and finished with a follow shot all after time expired. Should the goal be allowed although the ball was touched multiple times after time expired and then entered the goal?

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