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Went to BE website and It looks like they beat SCS 2-1.

Riverside beat BC girls 2-1.

irmo vs dorman... 1-1 halftime..

from what i heard irmo scored first and is playing pretty well and dorman scored close to halftime.. wish i was there

any updates on dorman/irmo game????

Dorman 3
Irmo 2

In OT

Unofficial

You guys may have quality threads and discussion..but if it isn't FM/Lex/WA/Wa/etc..there is nothing. Sheesh!

Dorman Wins - in OT

Dorman 3
Irmo 3

T.L. Hanna lost to Dorman 1-0, and had Irmo tied earlier in the year 1-1 before a fatal 5 minutes caught them from behind. Blast! It could have been us (let me dream, ok)

Congrats to Josef and the Lady Cavs! They are a deserving champion, but Mike Mauldin and the Lady Jackets are another worthy program. I don't think we could have had two classier teams/coaches fighting for the state title. Hats off to you two gentlemen for bringing fresh air and faces to the title scene.

As a Riverside alumnus, I am sooooo happy for Coach Archenhold and RHS to win!!! I hope they win from now until the end of eternity!!!

As an assistant for C of C women's soccer, I am happy that Brookland-Cayce made it to the finals and that Christian Patton had such a great year.

Congratulations to the Warriors of Riverside on winning the ship, and congrats to the bearcats as well on a great game. It was certainly a game between two classy and well coached (as well as talented) teams.

Riverside up by 2 at halftime, but BC was not without their chances (from what i hear, i was a little late). The second half was extremely exciting, BC scored on a free kick with 25ish minutes left played across the face of the goal and headed back to the middle where it was finished. Riverside was able to hold off all other attacks, and BC's defense kept Riverside out in the time I was there as well.

I left the Irmo Dorman game at halftime, where it was 1-1, because of my duties with the Ben Lippen team. But I heard Irmo scored in the final seconds of overtime, but apparently time ran out just before the ball went in the goal. Congrats to the champion Cavaliers of Dorman, and to the runner's up at Irmo.

yea the final of SCS-BE was 2-1, the first goal BE got should have never happened, the ref was at midfield and made a call from there, giving them a PK, that was not a foul!!! the second goal was just bouncing around the box and some girl ran through it and scored, the goal by SCS was the most legit goal of them all, it was a freekick from about 27 yards out on the left side, she drilled it in the upper corner, over the keeper!!!

Ok was it just my imagination or did Irmo not score at the buzzer to tie the game.
Can an irmo parent or player shed some light on how that one was explained to them.
If I'm not mistaken to end the half the horn sounded and the ref blew his wistle three times. Would you not end the game the same way? The horn was sounding when Irmo was scoreing but no wistle had been blown.

Oh and Whiskey, hopefully your gentleman Josef showed more class after this win then he did in Lexington.

I must say that I have never seen a more indecisive refreeing job in the 11 years I've played and watched soccer than I have in the Irmo-Dorman game. For those of you who could not make it to the game here's what happened. When the score was 2-2 with 7 mins left in the 2nd OT Dorman and Irmo's sweeper got tangled up and at some point in the mix up between the two players you could see that one of them had a hand-ball, Dorman got past the defender and scored. At first it was called a goal. However, the center referee and the AR went back and forth between one another and then back and forth between the coaching staffs. The end result was that the ref. completely changed his call and Dorman was given a free kick at the edge of the 18; giving the impression that Irmo had a handball. On the freekick Dorman hit the underside of the crossbar, the ball bounced and was headed over the goal by a Dorman player. It was difficult to tell but the referee called it a goal. Finally, with less than 5 secs left Irmo's right defender banged a ball towards the goal, Dorman's keeper tipped it with her hand, but it went over her and Meg Korpita helped make sure it went in as the buzzer went off to tie the game 3-3. However, the ref. called it a no goal. With no offense to Dorman, who played very well, but there is no way between the time that was wasted and run off the clock that there was not an extra second to call it a goal, Especially in a game as important as a State Championship game. I was not on the field so you could not be sure of all the commentary that occured, but from watching the game, Irmo was truly ripped off and it's a shame.

PHEW! For a moment there I thought the fine folk at goirmo.com wouldn't have anything to do all summer..

I'm not sticking up for anyone here, but what I saw was that on the first play you are talking about here, first there was a handball by an Irmo player, then there was a handball by a Dorman player that resulted in a goal. The AR told the center ref, and he made the correct call by calling off the Dorman goal and giving Dorman a free kick due to the first handball by Irmo. On the free kick, the ball hit the top bar and bounced down and the spin on the ball brought it over the line for a goal. This is exactly what happened I think it was last year with the Irmo boys, but they didn't get the call for a goal like tonight.
Believe me, I'm no Dorman fan, but it did appear to me that the buzzer did sound before Irmo scored it's last goal to tie it up in overtime, but you are right, the offical never seemed to blow his whistle to indicate the match was over.
I thought the refs did a good job until the last 7 minutes of the 2nd overtime, and then at that point they completely lost control of the game and could not make a decision.

Ouch. Painful to read.

irmo/dorman

I didn't hear the buzzer, but otherwise that's a pretty accurate account from where I sat too. the whistle ends the game and the whistle was never blown so I guess technically it ain't over yet. I wish they'd let the goal count. I believe dorman would have won it in the end anyway, given the way the game was going but that was a lousy way to end a championship game.

Thats the perfect way to end a state championship (sarcasm), now we will all have something to debate over the summer.

As a coach working with the association, we were stationed with a line-of-sight at the goal line and the Dorman goal was without question 'in'. At the end when the official horn rang (and it having been announced prior that the scoreboard clock was official -- ie: horn), the ball had not crossed the plane of the goal and therefore the goal was not counted. It was an outstanding effort between two fine programs, and both should be proud of excellent seasons.

LEDude, whats up with the irmo hating? your name should be LED*ck.. Yeah when its all said and done Dorman won the game "fair." But you cannot honestly stand here tell me that there was nothing controversial about the game at all. I do agree that Dorman scored a goal to make it 3-2 in OT.. but to take away CLEAR goal is just wrong. sure the horn went off as it was going in. but isnt official time kept on the field as it is with every other H.S. game???

Dave, since when is the scoreboard clock "official"?

Remember back in 2002(i think), when Irmo boys were playing Wando(i think) in the state championship?? Irmo was ahead towards the end of regulation and the center ref signaled 1 minute left to everyone (on camera, too) and ended up adding over 5 minutes of stoppage time? The opposing team scored to even up right before stoppage time, but after the scoreboard clock was ended.. wando went on to win it.. official time was definetly kept on the field then..

maybe there were rule changes recently, but as far as i can remember official time was kept on the field..

I believe the Irmo boys incident that you are talking about is exactly why offical time is now the scoreboard clock. I'll say one thing, they need to crank up the volume on the scoreboard, because with all the crowd noise, it is very hard to hear the buzzer at the end of the game.

Soccerboy: According to the rules, a PK is the only thing for which time can be extended. If the clock expires before the PK is taken, the PK should be allowed to be completed. For all other circumstances, the match is over when time expires.

Props to DORMAN AND COACH JOSEPH, reguardless of how it ended it is over. Well Done!

Soccerboy,

Wow. That was some fancy rule-making-uping! Why don't you come officiate our next dodgeball tournament. "Whiskey's Easies" haven't won in their last 4 outings. You nancy-boy!

Truefan,

Don't worry, that sting and jealousy of losing to Dorman will heal. In the meantime, why don't you start by washing your daughter's mouth out with soap.

Congrats Jo on the big one! Mike, you just needed a little more time. Anderson is proud of you!

Soccerboy: Refer to Rule 7, Art. 4 on page 34 of the 2005-2006 NFHS Soccer Rules Book. It says:

" ART. 4 . . . A period shall end at the expiration of time.
EXCEPTION: Play shall be extended beyond the expiration of the period, in regulation time and overtime, to permit a penalty kick to be completed."

I'm sorry soccerboy, I can't hear you. I have a rule book in my ear. What's that...I'm right? Oh, well thank you. Coach P is a level 87 official and assessor so I think I'll take his informed post over yours. Good run, man. Next year, next year...

Soccerboy: I think one of the issues here is who is keeping the official time. In FIFA games and most high school games, the center referee keeps the time. However, the NFHS rules allow for either an official timer or for the time to be kept by the head referee on the field. In most high school games I have officiated, the referee keeps the offical time on the field and the person keeping the scoreboard clock stops it at 2 minutes so the horn doesn't sound early. I was assuming that at a state final there would be an official timekeeper and that the scoreboard clock was the official time. But if the referee was keeping the time on the field, the OT period would not have been over until he blew his whistle which was well after the Irmo goal.

The problem I have with your idea of allowing a goal after time has expired is how do you be consistent? Are you sayng that you would allow the goal if the ball is in the air when time expires? What if it is bouncing around in the box when time expires? It was my observation last night that the time expired while the long shot from outside the box was in the air. It was then mishandled by the goalkeeper and finished with a follow shot all after time expired. Should the goal be allowed although the ball was touched multiple times after time expired and then entered the goal?

I cannot believe all the discussion about a simple fact: It was made very clear to the referees and announced before the match, that the scoreboard clock, operated by a certified referee, was the official time. Horn sounds, game over. No matter where the ball is. PERIOD!!!

a fan, read some of my other ideas in the past posts...you may think twice about things being as simple as you may think they are.

Coach P, I enjoy your discusion on this subject! You are right that it would be very difficult to have consistency. It is unfortunate the game had to end like that...oh well, there is always next year for all the teams! Good luck!

Very well put, a fan.

a fan: My daughter also informed me of that announcement tonight after my post. She heard it but I didn't. Not sure why.

Also, I noticed at the end of the 1st half and regulation that the horn was not very loud. It was hard to hear due to crowd noise.

Per the High School league, the official timekeeper is a certified official and receives signals (or no signals) from the Referee. The clock operation has been this way since the 2003 tournament. Since the center official had responsibility to signal, the scoreboard clock only stopped/started on his signal. The horn therefore signified the end of the match, and the rule - as explained a few times in this thread - was applied.

Dave: From what I can tell, this policy only applies to the championship final match in the tournament. Is that correct? I've never seen any non-final high school matches in SC where there was a certified official to operate the scoreboard clock.

Only the State Finals have a certified referee run the clock in South Carolina prep matches.