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i love it chico, do this sort of stuff in the high school forum, and you will be a tough contender in the 2006 posters cup

Chico and the man...errrr... Chico is the man!

By U10 they need technic very little tactical. Thus the 6v6 concept which I happen to agree with.

Depending on the skill level U12 start complex tactics.

But I find that the majority of the problem are parents uneducated in the game. encouraging the wrong things in the children...Kick it!! kick it!!! big kick!!, I have not seen a player come into the game at U12 and be able to complete unless they are natural athletes. In the lower levels you can be reactionary instead of proactive and still be competitive. If this player cannot make the change they will not be succesful at higher levels.

Is the USYS Registration Report online somewhere, or where do I get access to it?

andersonkwa

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Originally posted by Chico:
I got to the message board after a few weeks absence, and read with interest this thread. In particular, I thought the discussion concerning the number of teams in challenge and classic was interesting. I believe a relegation system is badly needed in high school, and would like to see it in club as well, but agree with "futbol(soccer)" and others that we don't have enough teams. The question I started wondering about is why we don't have enough teams -- is it just population or could there be other, equally important, factors at work?

South Carolina has 18,976 registered soccer players [source: USYS Registration Report, July 31, 2005]. South Carolina has a 5-18 year old population of 771,370 [source: US Census, 2003]. Thus, South Carolina has a 2.46% penetration rate of 5-18 year olds playing soccer.

The average penetration rate of all of the states constituting Region III is 3.59%. South Carolina is thus 31.45% below the average penetration rate of Region III. Only one state, Alabama, has a lower penetration rate [2.25%, which is 37.29% below the Region III average]. Thus, hypothetically, if South Carolina were to raise its penetration rate to the Region III average, and we assume that these gains were across the board, South Carolina would field almost 1/3 more teams in challenge and classic than it does now.

If South Carolina were to raise its penetration rate to that of the highest state in Region III [Oklahoma, 5.62% penetration rate] then South Carolina would field more than 1/2 more teams in challenge and classic than it does now, assuming these gains were across the board.

Also note that Oklahoma is far from having the highest penetration rates in the US. Colorado is 7.86%, Oregon is 8.48%, and Washington is 10.15%! So a goal of increasing penetration rates to that of Oklahoma is far from far fetched.

The old excuse that South Carolina is a "football state" doesn't ring true. South Carolina is no more a "football state" than many of the other states in Region III -- particularly Oklahoma or Georgia [Georgia has a 3.74% penetration rate]. And the old excuse of "South Carolina is a poor state and only rich kids play soccer" doesn't make sense when you see Mississippi with a 3.89% penetration rate or Arkansas with a 3.8% penetration rate.

It seems to me that the SCYSA, and its constituent clubs, need to prioritize its resources and effort on increasing the penetration rate of South Carolina soccer into ages 5-18. How? The obvious first place to do this is in partnership with our schools.

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So, first weekend of games....
U18 G - No games
U18 B - CSC 3- NECSA 3
U17 G - No games
U17 B
Bridge 2 - Northside 0
Bridge 3 - CESA Challenge 0
Lex 3 - Northside 2
CESA Challenge 5 - Lex 1
U16 G
CSC (u15) 1 - NECSA 1
Coastal 1 - N. Augusta (U15) 0
CUSC (U15) 1 - CESA Challenge 0
CESA Challenge 3 - Coastal 1
U16 B
Bridge 9 - Coastal 1
Lex 3 - CESA Challenge 0
Lex 4 - CSC Burn 1
U15 G
CUSC 0 - N. Augusta 2
U15 B
No games


Comments on play?? 9-1 trouncing in Challenge?

How did Bridge U-17 Premier do this weekend?

[andersonkwa] Is the USYS Registration Report online somewhere, or where do I get access to it?

Sorry in the delay in responding. I've tried and I can't find it online. I pulled the numbers from a Georgia message board posting made a month or more ago that referenced the USYS report.

Bridge premier tied CESA 2-2 .... That is what I understand...

Chico... how did your daughter do?

Under the threatened penalty of a slow, cruel, and harrowing death, I am restricted from posting concerning my daughter's individual performance and/or the performance of any club team upon which she plays.

I am allowed to post general information. Here's the South Carolina premier information I have:

CESA U18G Premier: 1-1 Charlotte United
CESA U18B Premier: 2-0 Charlotte United
CESA U17G Premier: 6-1 MPSC White
CESA U17B Premier: 2-2 Bridge FA U17B Gold
CESA U16G Premier: 3-1 Lexington United
NECSA U16B Blast: 1-0 CESA U16B Premier
CESA U15G Premier: 0-0 CESA U15G Challenge
CESA U15B Premier: 5-1 KFC (Tennessee) Crush
DSC U15B Green: 4-2 Charlotte Soccer Club

The SCYSA Board minutes usually have the number of registered players at the time. Unfortunately, those minutes usually lag several months. The last ones posted were for March, http://www.scysa.org/BoardMinutes/BODMIN20050313.htm and the number of players registered was 17,305.

Sometimes they also give a more detailed breakdown, like February, which can be interesting.

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Total: 16,951
Boys: 10,352
Girls: 6,599
Rec: 12,355
Classic: 4,596
Piedmont: 5,836
Midstate: 6,101
Coastal: 4,877
Out of state: 137
Coaches: 1,932
Managers: 265
Volunteers: 461
Referees: 1,043

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When my boys starting playing in the early '90s, there definitely were more teams and players playing. (The March 2001 minutes show 18,386 registered players). I think the focus is now on the elite players and teams. And while it's all well and fine to raise the bar, it perpetuates a culture where if you're not on the superduper team, you're wasting your time.