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What would the outcome be if a 4-A State Champ played a U-17 State Champ? Also what would happen if the same U-17 State Champ played a 1-A State Champ? All teams being boy's.

U17 beats 4A in a well fought match but control most of the game.

U17 beats 1A relatively easily, even a 1A powerhouse like Christ Church.

PLC All-stars would thoroughly whoop U-17, 4A, & 1A champs..


..even if all three took the field at once.

Please...
There is no argument here. Any top level club team can easily handle any high school team. I have had a couple of college coaches tell me that a top level U16 girls team can hang with most college teams, beating some (with the exception of the big dogs, of course). For example, you might remember that CGSA Fusion beat the tar out of The Citadel and Coastal Carolina as U16s in scrimmages.

Need Chico to do a demographic/population analysis. Of course any premier state champion U-17 club team should easily be able to beat any high school team, given that the high school team is restricted by boundaries from where they can draw their kids. Given that the club team can attract kids state-wide (and there are kids in the Charleston area who play club ball in the Greenville area) gives them an obvious, insurmountable advantage.

Only exception would be if Columbia or Greenville had a 4A-sized Catholic school that had a great coach that everybody wanted to play for (this scenario could exist up north).

Tough analysis to do: the best club teams tend to have much wider geographic distribution but the best HS teams have a much wider age-based distribution [i.e., freshmen to seniors]. Given maturation averages, the latter is probably typically more a factor for girls than boys.

Anecdotally, it's hard to disagree with Soccerdog6 and Hurst66 on this one. Taking the CSC's U17G team which is currently leading the U17G challenge league, you have players from high schools in Chapin, Dutch Fork, Irmo, Lexington, and probably elsewhere.

If what you guys are saying is true, why is there so much talk about HS soccer in the mid state and lower state and very little talk in the upper state about HS soccer, just club ball. Seems like people talk up HS soccer but from the posts, HS soccer at the highest level can't stay on the field with a top flight club. Am I correct with this train of thought ?

Club soccer does not get in the newspaper or on the 11PM newscast. This is looked as something that goes on behind behind the scenes and goes without publicity. High school is, well, high school. This is something whole communities get behind. Club ball does not get the recognition that it deserves. If not for club ball, providing at least a couple of players for any particular high school, the high school programs would be even more pitiful than they are now, with a few notable exceptions.
Just my opinion, but I think is the correct one.

Age is key.... A top flight U17B team should win the majority of the games against 4A schools, except for the few who are strong enough (I can only think of a handful). 3A and below, no contest.

Girls, ditto except maybe a couple of HS

The key is age make-up of the team.

a top flight U17B team? i am assuming you mean challange correct?