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#60405 11/10/05 02:36 PM
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Well, it is about time Dennis Cook got his shot - don't you think? Assistant Coach at Irmo ("Hey, you know I am the assistant at Irmo."), Club Coach for years (still has nightmares about Lionel from Sumter), Runs Many Tournaments, and has Officiated at a Very High Level.

#60406 11/10/05 03:14 PM
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Business and employee relationships are best kept private, not on an open message board.

#60407 11/10/05 03:37 PM
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Darren: Thank you for responding. You mean to tell me that it's a secret as to whether your DOC is part-time or full-time? Wow...I never would have imagined...I honestly wasn't trying to be rude.

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In any case...back to what prompted my question...

If I were associated with CSC, my first question wouldn't be "who's the next DOC?" My first question would be "Do we need a full-time DOC to accomplish our vision/goals or do we need only a part-time DOC and we can use the financial savings in other ways to accomplish our vision/goals?"

Of course, a lot of this depends on whether the vision/goals are still appropriate, i.e., does the board still wish to be the "...most recognized state youth soccer organization..." [from the vision statement]?

It seems to me that other youth soccer organizations have been "upping the ante" in terms of their goals and operations, so asking some fundamental questions about the nature of how CSC must be structured before choosing a successor is probably CSC's first step. The board letter seemed to reflect at least some of that.

One last note: as someone who wants to see South Carolina youth soccer become more competitive regionally and nationally, I think it would be great if CSC made the DOC position full-time -- unless I'm mistaken, it would mark CSC as the only club with a full-time DOC position in the midlands.

#60409 11/10/05 06:08 PM
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You would probably be correct... although I do not know how Tripp is compensated.

The cost of a full time person would be high and would need to be supported with funds from participation. Since the numbers are not there, it would either be very costly per capita or greater numbers would have to be found. This brings you back to 04striker and midlands clubs.

Chico, correct me if I am wrong, both Pearse and Andrew are full time and there may be others.... but CESA has a very extensive recreation program especially at the younger ages... it is my understanding that rec programs are the cash cow for clubs. This would be an interesting topic to discuss with BridgeFA as well as they do not have rec programs.

Nevertheless, your point is well taken I would have many questions myself, including the Berson factor at CSC. To the best of my knowledge EC and Berson got along well.

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Futbol,
How expensive is the recreation arm of CESA? How does that compare with the cost of recreation at other clubs? What is the comparison in terms of coaching for these teams?

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I would be willing to bet that the main cash cow for CESA would be their tournaments. tournaments, when ran properly as CESA does, can be huge money makers. NECSA has a decent rec base, but Tripp is still part time.

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It would appear to an outsider that CESA has also done a better job at attracting sponsors.Just guessing, but I imagine the European business community would be more receptive to soccer than some domestic companies.

#60413 11/10/05 06:46 PM
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Chico,

Didn't mean to imply the question was rude. I've become increasingly concerned with the use of this board by anonymous posters. There has been what appears to me to be an increase of throwing names around. This includes the use of player names in ODP discussions, now coaches/DOC names, and even board members, not necessarily all in a flattering manner. I do know that anonymity can affect some peoples ability to "communicate". So my response was probably more out of this frustration than anything else.

More to your point, there is one DOS at Bridge FA. If that fits in your mind as a full time person, then it is. If you're asking based on a number of hours per week, then I need to know what your defintion of full/part time is.

#60414 11/10/05 06:50 PM
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Yeah, you have BMW, Michelin and others in upstate. I doubt you are gonna get much money from Hardaway Concrete in Cola.
I am sure Chico will give us a sponsorship analysis soon.

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