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Can anyone suggest who the best Goalkeepers in SC Select Soccer are by Age? (And what high school do they play for?) Thanks.
U18
U17
U16
U15

Since their teams are usually quite good and they are playing in the Premier league, you can probably start with the CESA Premier keepers. Most, if not all of them are outstanding.

Here's my list, based on who I've seen:
Phillip Ricciardone Mt Pleasant U18, Bishop England
Brian Anderson Bridge U17, Wando
Michael Flato Jr. Bridge U16, Bishop England
U15 - I can't comment cause that's my group, but I'd like to hear your comments to know the competition. Thanks

BTW - Here's some Goalkeeper trivia:
National Record for Most GK Shutouts, Career (High School)
74 Mike Gallagher Christian Brothers (St. Louis, MO) 1994-1997
68 Justin Chelland St. Benedict’s Prep (Newark, NJ) 1999-2002
57 Dean Short Bath (Bath, NY) 1994-1997
56 Michael Rostin Wando (Mount Pleasant, SC) 1994-1999
55 Chris Lura Hamilton (Hamilton, N.Y.) 1994-1998
52 Jeff Gower Greenwood (Springfield, MO) 1992-1995
52 Chatham Rowe Wando (Mount Pleasant, SC) 1999-2002
52 John Miglarese Wando (Mount Pleasant, SC) 1992-1996
51 Hank Graef St. Mary's (St. Louis, MO) 1969-1972

NOTE: Rostin, Rowe & Miglarese were all coached by Mr. Dick Gross, Goalkeeper Coach at Wando High School

Pretty amazing that in the top ten are three from Wando!

George Rusche U18 CSC Navy(13-1-4) has 1.1 GA in 18 games which includes 2 tournaments and challenge season.

U18 - Brendon Smith CESA Premeire also JL Mann HS
along with Mark Dimagio(sp)Northwestern HS they have given up only 6 goals all season in premeire league. Three losses all by 1 goal to Concorde 1-0 , CASL 2-1 and Forsyth Fusion 2-1.

Sorry my mistake the CASL game was a 3-2 loss all the others posted were correct. All the other games have been shut-outs. In the Atlanta Cup Semi's Mark stopped two PK's against Strictly Soccer out Fla. to win the game. Both very good in the goal.

I would say
u18-Philip Ricciardone (but George Rushe is outstanding
u17-jason mccabe (both the Bridge Premier Keeper and challenge keeper are good)
and I don't really know about u16 or u15, but I would guess that the necsa premeir keeper is good

I would say at U16 boys level one would have to include Greg DeMare from CSC on the list of best. His leadership abilities and communication skills are a league above those in his age group. He is contantly coaching and encouraging his teammates. He is very quick on his line and comes out with focus and purpose.

I would also include Joey Calandra of Bridge (U17 I believe, maybe U16) on this list. He quit this team for a while but will be returning soon. Regardless of opinion, Bishop England has three stellar goalies coming up in Ricciardone, Calandra, and Flato.

In the U18's, I hear a good bit about George Rushe form Dreher and I have seen him play, but given a choice I would take Brendan Smith from JL Mann.

For the U17's Mike Gubash is a small but extremely quick and talented keeper with incredible moves. I have not seen him in the high school scene arena so I do not know where he plays.

Both U16 CESA Premier keepers started as Freshman on their high school teams. Ian Rose starts for Riverside and Shane Hoover starts for Mauldin. It's no surprise that both those teams did extremely well last year.

Who does Mike Gubash play for? club and high school.

I believe that Gubash plays for CESA U17 Premier. Not sure on the high school.

Here's my picks:

U18 George Rushe-pure talent

U17-Mike Gubash- i've only seen him play a couple of times but when I have seen him play he was very talented
U16-I'd have to agree with Shrink on this one, CSC u16 keep is very good and quick also a real vocal leader, he is the only reason they lost only lost to NECSA 1-0 he made some great saves but Flato is definetly a close second.
U15-not many good keeps in that age group

disagree on the U16 selection... For Sure there are other keepers in that age group better than the CSC keep...

Why do you disagree, we stated that others were good too(Flato Jr. Bridge FA)

because the thread is "the best goalkeepers in the state by age". He is not the best, I have not seen CESA P play so I cannot comment. Flato for sure is better

To each it's own i guess....have you ever seen him play?

Yes I have, he does work with his defenders but does not organize them as well as they should. Keeper capability wise he is average, lacks size. Would I kick off my team? No.

Is Flato better? yes, but he is a hothead and can be easily taken out of the game.

Are there others in the age group? Yes
I would place him in the top 4 including CESA Premier and NECSA in the mix.

So pros and cons and as you said to each his own...

JL Mann can't and won't beat Riverside next year. Doesn't matter who is in the net!

We will find out on March 8th Always Right. I think it will be a good game though.

There is this goalie that is only in the 8th grade and is playing for our youth 18 team. He plays for edisto but cannot play due to being in the 8th grade. he has had numerous shut-outs on the season and has only been scored on in 4 of our games and only a total of 10-12 goals on the season. Look out for him in edisto in the next few years.

you play rec!

On GAA, a low GAA alone doesn't mean the Keeper is that good (field players could be exceptional). Need to look at the SA/GAA ratio for better comparison. Meola had a ratio of 10+ which is outstanding, 5-6+ is considered Good! GAA is easy to calculate but saves are somewhat subjective. Team statisticians don't record Keeper stats nor post on Hotstat. Most don't know what a 'shot' is: (See: NCAA 2005 Soccer Statisticians' Manual)
That's why I asked the question, there is no good source of information on SC Keeper's. It should be part of the Hotstat Game report but isn't, again, a complete lack of understanding of the position (and the game) by SCYSA.

MP-agree, about Calandra (another Dusty Hudock product), just haven't seen him much lately.

dwel32-your right, not many good keeps at U15. I think it's due to a lack of ANY emphasis by the team coaches. The position takes a lot of personnal commitment. Most coaches expect the Keep to get enough training by getting shot on by field players at practice and by the time their U15-16 most Keeps get bored (from poor training leading to frustration) and move on.

On Goalkeeper Training:
Most teams practice 2-3 times a week. Most coaches that I've seen emphasize their practice sessions toward field player: strategy, individual techniques and conditioning (I say field player because there are 14-16 on the team and coaches feel that focusing limited practice on field players maximizes their productivity). So, let's face it, most soccer clubs fail at producing talented goalkeepers.

Specialized training is required to teach the aspects of goalkeeping, including catching, punching away, deflections, low and medium dives (both directions), forward dives and forward punches, tipping over the cross-bar, handling breakaways, punting and other forms of distribution, including rolling and slinging to open players (short & medium range and over players). Concentration and intensity, knowledge of the game, positioning, and reading developing plays. Ranging in, out, and around the penalty box. The Laws of the game as applied to Keepers, team and individual strategy. Game voice, decisions and commands. Leadership and defensive organization.

If you know of a club that offers this training (NO EXTRA CHARGE) please let me know! Thanks. (BTW Mt Pleasant does offer 1day/wk Keeper training, usually a limited number of sessions per season - no extra charge)

CIWS... It is my understanding that CSC, Lex And CESA all provide separate GK training, not sure about the fee. I do not believe NECSA does or any of the smaller clubs.

In reply to the smaller clubs and what they offer ... The Congaree Rapid Soccer Association offers goalkeeper training twice weekly during the fall season at no additional cost ... Our GK Trainer is David Schroer and he's done a tremendous job with our keepers!

Kevin,
Hi, I googled David and this is what I could find:
David Schroer - Goalkeeper Trainer / Academy
Age: 21
Occupation: Senior at USC
Education: USC / Socastee High School (2001)
Coaching Experience: 3 Years; Brookland-Cayce High School Goalkeeper and Assistant Coach (2005); Memo Suarez Soccer School (2003-05)
CRSA Experience: Second Year

Do you have a Bio or additional College/Professional experience for him? Thanks in advance.

Futbol, who are the Keeper Trainers at those clubs?

Lex... Alan Riches
CSC...Mat Smith
CESA ...Keith Fredricksen

Wasn't Alan Riches part of the scandal at USC with the women's soccer coaching staff under Sue Kelly?

DSC always offers free goal keeper training to all players. This year with DOC Mike Gabb (Winthrop men's and women's keeper trainer) and Steve Winton, former Winthrop GK. In past years it was Teddy Meyers, Winthrop's keeper trainer, and Steve Winton.

what scandal?

Free? DSC players dont pay to play? it could be at no additional charge, but it is not free.

Thanks, Wow - looks like the clubs are actually taking care of the Keepers. Curious though, do the teams really send their Keepers - say during regular practice sessions or do they go voluntarily an extra day of the week. Also, how many days per week is Keeper training offered (1,2,3..) and can you go to each? At Mt. P its offered once per week, voluntary, if the day coincides with regular practice I don't believe there is a makeup, coaches encourage their Keeps to attend, and there are about 7-9 sessions per season - depends on whether there are any Mt P teams in playoffs and if the Keeps want to continue to practice during that time.

He may not be in club soccer but he does play for emerald high school. This now junior managed to shutout Bishop England in the championship game in 2005 after first goalie got red carded ten minutes into the game. His name is Josh Dean. He has numerous shut outs and deserves to be elected as best goalie in the state.

Back to the question.

Ian Rose-Riverside High School (greenville)
Gubash- CESA Premier

Any SC programs sending a coach? I'd go if I could just to let the coaches practice with me.

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I'm sure that these are good classes, but aren't most of these sessions just money makers for the parent organization?

ya really who cares about a stupid peice of paper that says you paid the 150 or so odd dollars for someone to tell you or show your something that a competent gk instructor already knows