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#64751 07/25/04 04:09 AM
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I counted the 14 Freshmen, 6 Sophmores, 4 Juniors, and 3 seniors. I wish I had last years roster and the year before that. We seem to have 10+ freshman every year. We are never going to get better if we keep fielding a young freshman team each and every year...

Example lets look at Georgia: 5 Freshman(1 red shirt), 9 Sophmores, 4 Juniors, 3 Seniors.

I wouldn't be so upset if it wasn't that USC has been doing this since the end of Sue Kelly's years. And we haven't competed in years either...

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On the bright size, here's the ranking of both Georgia and USC in terms of recruiting classes in the last few years.

Year SC Georgia
2004 23 39
2003 39 21
2002 ** **
2001 ** 16
2000 48 34

(**) Not ranked in the top 50.

USC broke into the top 25 for the first time this century in 2004; Georgia has been much more consistent recruiting with two years in the top 25 and only one year in which they weren't in the top 50.

[Source: www.soccerbuzz.com]

#64753 07/26/04 12:09 PM
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The only bright side I see with Carolina is that they are recruiting girls closer to home and not working by the old proverb, "If you speak a foreign language or have a heavy accent then you must be a pro soccer player."

So I am hoping that will translate into players staying on the entire 4-5 years. I would be interested to know why most of the girls leave the program. What I fear is the coach is running off the players in order to upgrade with freshman. Think Carolina football under Brad.

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USC's rankings in women's soccer according to Albyn Jones' power ratings.

(2003) #61, 10-8-3
(2002) #61, 13-6-2
(2001) #107, 8-7-3
(2000) #130, 4-16-0
(1999) #44, 14-6-0
(1998) #70, 11-7-1
(1997) #103, 8-11-0
(1996) #81, 10-7-2
(1995) #110, 8-10-2

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I counted the 14 Freshmen, 6 Sophmores, 4 Juniors, and 3 seniors. I wish I had last years roster and the year before that. We seem to have 10+ freshman every year. We are never going to get better if we keep fielding a young freshman team each and every year...

Example lets look at Georgia: 5 Freshman(1 red shirt), 9 Sophmores, 4 Juniors, 3 Seniors.
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Look closely at your example...
Seniors Juniors Sophs Froshs
USC 3 4 6 14
Georgia 3 4 9 5

The only major difference is the number of Freshman. So what exatly is the point??? USC have the same number of upperclass players as Georgia. If you're outrecruiting your previous Freshman class, then that is a good thing as long as you have some quality upperclassmen on the team.

#64756 07/29/04 01:45 PM
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My point is that Carolina needs to start to stablize their recruiting classes and get a better spread of players across the program and not be freshaman loaded every year.

Outrecruiting your freshaman every year is not a good thing. Especially when we have been doing at least 5 years in a row that I can remember. What example of leadership do you set for the team when you run off the freshman every year and that is if we are assuming correctly that it is the case of outrecruiting. I am more worried that it is a case of players getting frustrated with the program and leaving. I guess I will have to throw more stats at the topic.

I just hope that stating this opion doesn't incite a rebellion by the youth that reads this board. Any opion I have should not be read by the youth of America as it could make you think.

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A few more stats. I went to the College ranking and picked 5 teams in the top 25 and did a roster count.

Team (Rank) FR SO JR SR
NC (1)          7  7  9  8
FSU (4)         7  7  6  2
Penn (6)        6  5  7  5 
Tenn (12)      7  5  2  7 
BC (25)         7  6  7  5

I think I have proven my point. If you want to be a top twenty five team then you need to stablize the players and get a greater spread of upper and under classwomen.

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'chapindad' -- interesting numbers.

But, what is an "opion"?

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Better?

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Oh, excellent! [Big Grin]

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