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#64781 07/30/04 09:01 PM
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Sorry, I didn't get into specifics about everything provided in a full scholarship, but basically a full ride consists of tuition, fees, room and board, and books. For SC student athletes staying in state I understand that there is frequently a combination of athletic funding and Life/Hope funding cobbled together to cover expenses. I think players going out of state are often given "in state" tuition rates. There are probably a lot of parents out there who have actually been through this and could give more precise information.

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ps: Chapindad, don't you feel good looking at farm animals? Can't you hear the theme song from Lassie being whistled in the background and yearn to get out and do some wholesome chores? Bale hay for the cows, slop a pig trough or two, muck a stable...

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Recent experiences in the area of college scholarships ( not really talking about USC soccer anymore are we?) are similiar to what LPAF outlined.
Out of state schools will generally offer 1st yr players the difference between in state and out of state tuition. Private schools seem to find more sources for financial aid - beyond their soccer scholarships. In state public schools wait until you exhaust other academic and financial needs based options. Then try to stretch their budgets as fas as possible.

Remember - Most schools have around 11 scholarships (not everyone is fully funded). Divide that among 25 players and you already are at less than 1/2 per player. Then
reward the returning p[layers who are leading the team and have already proven themselves and assume less than 1/4 available per incoming freshman. Then assume that there are maybe 1 or 2 special recruits that the coach goes after with a 1/2 scholarship. So now the rest are lucky to get books ($1000 or so).
Sorry to be a wet rag to all those expectant parents out there that hope soccer will pay for college. It won't.
Still sports give a girl focus at achieving goals and also keeps them off the streets - sometimes! So, it it still worth it. Just know what to expect.

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In an attempt to do my best Kubby imitation, this is directed at the "attrition", "running off", and large class every year comments.

The Smiths were hired in mid-spring of 2001 after the signing date so who knows who they actually recruited in the 2001 class.
2001 ( 4 of 6 finished or are still there)- Bowie (transfer JR), Jessie Uecker (gone), Ashley Gosnell, Ashley Williams, Jocelyn Meyer (gone), and Stacey Zelek. Two are no longer there. One graduated on time.
2002 - (4 of 8 still playing) - Kimberly Criss, Jackie Welch, Amanda Thurber, Abagail Markham, Stacey Bunchman (still at USC, not playing), Katherine Stokes (gone), Camille Toney (gone), Lindsay Haney (hurt most of career, not playing).
2003 - (5 of 7 still playing) - Jenna Ball, Lauren Skinner, Erin Geldhof, MA Foster, Jessi Swaim, Shelly Hoddeson (gone), Kristen Seglem (?)

So, largest class to this point 8, smallest 6 .
retention rate of 62 percent (13 of 21) which isn't bad in this day and age.

This class of 14 is unusual. The other thing to consider though is that the roster is jumping from 22 to 28 which accounts for the larger recruiting class.

#64784 08/02/04 02:28 PM
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Thanks for the stats. Maybe I will be proven wrong once again.

I would hope that the retention would be higher closer to a 90% rate. I would be curious to understand why these girls left the program. Maybe mocing to 28 players will help in the spread of players across the age groups.

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All these figures and stats have my head spinning.... Regarding the female Red Neck players we have in our league,I am trying to advise them of their college choices, if they finish high school. What might be the percentage of colleges interested in females with .75 and lower GPA scores, average 450 SAT scores, who have no more than 2 kids and less than < ; or greater than> 3 boyfriends?

#64786 08/02/04 07:18 PM
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I think a subject as important as this one probably deserves its own topic, and maybe its own "Co-Ed High School Soccer" forum on an equal foot with Boys HS Soccer and Girls HS Soccer. Somehow pigtailing (barnyard reference) it onto USC Soccer seems out of place. Plus, most of those familiar with the redneck league from last season never think to look in the College, Pro and International forum. Just a thought.

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What a jolly good suggestion! SC High School Red Neck Soccer League (RNL for short).

#64788 11/23/04 03:10 PM
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I hate being right. The USC girls did not have a very successful year in the SEC or the tournament. Let's see how many freshman we have next year. They had only 3 seniors on the team and 14 freshman. If we have more than 5 freshman next year then something is wrong....

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