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#66912 12/06/05 07:47 PM
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How is it that Mexico will be seeded and the United States will not? Not only did the U.S. finish ahead of Mexico in CONCACAF qualifying, but we beat them in the last World Cup. What gives?

#66913 12/06/05 08:09 PM
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The official method for ranking can be found at:

http://www.fifa.com/documents/fifa/events/FinalDraw_Pot1.pdf

The quick and easy answer as to why Mexico is seeded and the US is not goes back to the 32nd place finish at the 1998 World Cup. That cost a lot of points in the FIFA system. Mexico finished 13th then. Also, Mexico has been consistently ranked in the World Rankings as a few places higher than the US.

It's not actually Mexico that was our competition for seeding, but Argentina and Italy, who each finished with one point higher than the US in the seeding algorithm. Mexico was four points above the US.

I'm sure that if the US was seeded, and Italy or Argentina were not, there would be a lot of interesting discussion on Italian or Argentinian message boards...

[Post Edit]: If you look closely, there are some errors in the points attributed to Italy and the US in the row for FIFA World Ranking. It doesn't amount to enough to change the overall classification, but it does shake my confidence in FIFA. Plus, it makes for a good conspiracy theory.

[Post Edit Part Deux]: Nevermind. There are no errors, it's just that the algorithm was not explained simply enough for my over-taxed noggin.

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I guess I'm just sad that we missed out on a seed by just one point...

#66915 12/06/05 09:29 PM
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The rankings are very well done and it will be very interesting to see the draw on friday. There is certainly going to be a group of death, and Serbia and Montenegro are already a little bit unadvantaged as they will be in either the Mexico, Brazil, or Argentina group no matter what happens, with 2 of these teams being very formidable opponents.

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#66917 12/07/05 02:32 PM
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how is it already determined that serbia is already placed in one of those 3 groups?

#66918 12/07/05 02:54 PM
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Otherwise there would be three Euro teams in one group, and FIFA wants to avoid that.

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seeing how the us wasn't ranked and will probably not get a favorable draw, what do you think of their chances? also, who do yall think will actually win the whole thing?

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dude expect a win from either Germany, The Netherlands or The MIGhty Brazil.

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